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EVERY? Every as in THREE? Out of those three, one is ranked in the top 25 and the other two are receiving votes to be in the top 25!?!CJ has a 124.47 QB rating, which will be higher when his targets quit volleying up INTs for him. He is also 20th in the nation in TD passes.Is he perfect? No, but I'm not sure he deserves as many critical posts as he receives.On the UA seasonal lists, Jacquemain’s 1,457 yards is 15th. His 124 completions is 13th on the UA single-season list. He has been right around the 60 percent completion range all season. Currently, Charlie Frye is the only UA quarterback to complete over 60 percent of his passes in a season, a feat he accomplished in 2002 (65,8), 2003 (64.8) and 2004 (63.6).At this rate, Jacquemain will join the two other UA quarterbacks under head coach J.D. Brookhart (all-time leader Charlie Frye and second-place Luke Getsy) on the top of the UA all-time passing lists.Once again, DrZ proves himself to be one of the most underrated and top posters on this board. He has a great understanding of football that only a Steelers fan (well, maybe anyone but a Browns fan) can bring to the board.This post alone should have put an end to the argument. Jacq does his share of stupid things, but the results are there this year.

Explain to me why we have to win all these things first before we "move on"?Can't we get really good somewhere else just as easy (if not easier) than where we are?I'm not saying we are moving or not, I just don't understand the point of "winning" and THEN moving.Exactly Louisville, Cinci, South Florida, and UConn haven't won jack!! Neither has East Carolina, or Memphis which are the other teams rumored to be going next. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if Marshall and Central Florida beat us to the punch and move to the B.E. first.Seriously, I wonder how much of a helpful factor it is when your recruiter can tell a player that you can play in the Big East.Great question zen. Let's examine this.In recent years, we have recruited the type of player you need to succeed in the Big East and few of them are on the roster now because the University does not do what is necessary to keep those kids in school. That has not changed.If we join the Big East, how many of you who have been critical of JD's recruiting will keep your mouths shut when at risk kids start showing up again and the school has no way to support them? Pitt is taking them, Rutgers is taking them, WVU is taking them, Louisville is taking them and the others do also. Do you guys think we will be able to win with the suburban league teams you guys so yearn for?

How much "building for the future" can we take? A bridge to China would take less time. I don't know about you guys, but 20+ years of DI-A futility is a bit much to take. The future is now. It's time to start winning and get people to the games. We have a good AD with some good teams and coaches....let's do something with it so you guys can stop wasting your money and time going to see futility or the future being built or whatever rationalization you want to come up with. Wouldn't it be more fun to go watch a MAC Champion play and bowl games and games that really matter in November.This whole idea that we need to constantly lose under the guise of "building for the future" is insane. I actually think many on this board have seen so much losing they are addicted to it and psychologically the move to another conference is a move to heap more abuse upon themselves. UofA would get killed in football, basketball and just about every other sport people care about in the Big East. Can you imagine what UCONN's W BB team would do to ours? Yikes it would be ugly. You don't get recognized for losing, you just get forgotten. I know this isn't football, but how many of you need to be reminded that Providence and Seaton Hall have teams in the Big East? They aren't recognized because they are forgotten and their fans stop going to games years ago.Any move to the Big East would require an immediate increase of seats to InfoCision Stadium to at a minimun 50,000 seats (double the size). Where is the money going to come from? Santa Claus? More bonds? Has anyone seen the bond ratings for governments around NE Ohio? InfoCision will be a GREAT MAC stadium. Let's use it to become a great MAC team.

I thought all you division three homies were dead.GP1, I always thought you had vision and a vested interest in the growth and development of the Zips.Your post reads like something straight out of the sixties. Back then, people argued against moving up to the (dare I say it?) MAC. I heard all those whiny short sighted arguments back then. The Zipsmoved and improved. It is time to move up again.The up side is just too great to pass by. Its all about money. Its all about ambition. Its all aboutpride. Its all about the community. Its all about recognition.Come on, GP1, join the future.Please do not change my quote and go on a rant about my opinion if you change my opinion. My original post says the MAC and not the OAC.

Over a ten year period, Akron would average 2-4 against these teams. We had better be counting on them being a big "draw" because nobody from Akron is going to pay to go watch a Big East bottom feeder play. We would get killed in W & M Basketball as well and the move would destroy those programs. I have a better idea. Let's go to a conference where we compete well and earn trips to our league championship game and bowl games. We can create interest with post season play and league championships and give the people of NE Ohio something to go watch other than loses against larger programs. That league would be..........the MAC. We aren't going anywhere and that is a good thing.

It actually fits so much of the thinking on this board I actually had to include it as a tag line.

You could have just ended the sentence there......I'd like to end this discussion of OSU football with the following quote from Kirk Herbstreit after the OSU beat down by USC, "The Big Ten is the joke of college football and Ohio State is the punch line".

I meant this in a positive way. It's not hard to believe they make more money than before. The presentation of the increase in how much money is made could be one form of manipulation. For example, increasing revenue sounds really good if it is presented as, "increased revenue 150%". That would impress a lot of people.

Is anyone surprised that Owens name is in the same sentence as the phrase "lay another egg"?

GP1, Mack is not likely to hike out of Zippyland until he pulls off the really big deal.With the Big East due to realign after the 2010 football season and Akron and a few other schoolsworking to position themselves to gain one of the new conference memberships about to be offered,do not look for Mack Rhoades to skedaddle until he gets the Zips into the Big East or C-USA.C-USA will have at least one open membership when Memphis jumps to the Big East. C-USA is aback up for Akron if they do not get admitted to the Big East.At any rate, a jump up in conference affiliation along with building a stadium looks really good on one's resume.All good points. In the end, jumping a conference is not a relevant job skill for the next job Mack will be looking for unless he wants to limit his job search to only a handful of schools looking to jump conference or another MAC type school. He will not want to limit his possibilities.Mack came to Akron with a reputation for generating revenue. Schools want money more than anything. The kind of school Mack will be looking at next have almost all the facilities they need and will want a guy who can bring in cash.....and lots of it. He can manipulate the conditions at Akron to show a jump in revenue. Building a stadium takes a lot more than just one person and it is hard to dupe even the people who sit in university hiring boards into believing he did it all by himself.

You're forgetting the real money-maker that was designed into the stadium plans: luxury suites. There of 15 of them, all sold out for at least the next three years, at $20,000 a piece. That's $300,000 a year, plus the hundreds of open-air loges that are available for inflated prices.I was surprised to see that people payed what they did for those seats, but if people are willing to pay then why not take advantage of that?They sold really quick. Hence I think they were sold too cheaply.You shouldn't "think" they were sold too cheaply, you should "know" they were sold too cheaply. Unless, "Sold 100% of all luxury suites in (fill in the blank) months" is a new line on a resume for a young and ambitious AD with his eye on the next rung. Starting the construction of a new sports facility is a good way to pad your resume. I look for Mack to move on after this football season or next. Moving on after this season would make sense.

You're forgetting the real money-maker that was designed into the stadium plans: luxury suites. Are you sure?

This has always been my understanding of the cost of the football program. It is 25% of the Athletic Department costs. I understand it takes around $13 million to run the A. Dept., so 25% of that is $3.25 million. A 25,000 seat stadium x 6 home games x $20 ASP for a ticket = $3 million. With parking, food/drinks/merchandise and suite fees, they should be able to cover the $3.25 million if they can sell out all of their games. That's best case. Whatever the case is, they will be better off than the Rubber Bowl. The problem is, rightly or wrongly, football needs to fund the other programs because many do not charge for attending a game and others are not attended enough to fund themselves with the tickets they sell. This goes on at every school. If football does not fund them, then the tax payers do and are doing right now. I really hope they can bring in the money they expect to.

Insert Fred Sanford voice here....

Here is the question I would ask about coaching to decide their grades. Is the available talent getting better or worse as the season progresses (don't punish for injuries)? If the answer is yes, then give them something in the B range. If the same, a C is in order. If worse, something in the D range is in order.

I'm OK with this game as long as UofA schedules a I-AA team to open the new stadium the week before the PSU game. Everyone else has a cupcake the first game, we should too. That stadium is going to be up for 100 years so who we play the first game ever really isn't important.

Hello everyone from sunny Florida. Yes, there are good teams in the MAC East, and one of them is The University of Akron.Like you said, just win the east. Six wins could do it for us. We are at three and we need three more.Quite possibly the most light hearted, optimistic post I've ever seen from GP1. What's the occasion? Sunny Florida I would guess.Partly the sun. Partly the evidence of the quality of plastic surgeons in FL. Feeling even better since last night after watching Big Ben win another late last night in person.While I get disgusted at the Zips sometimes, I think my posts have been caked in a positive outlook about this team. I think five wins is a realistic goal for this team with the talent they have and the generally poor state of the MAC. Six wins is also a possibility and should be a yearly minimun expectation. We can meet that expectation this season. I'm feeling good about them right now, but they need to believe and not me. The Zips are a good team guys!

While I was too busy sitting on the beach yesterday to watch the game, I'll give an opinion based upon what I read* on this board and the little I have seen him this year.I am a huge Ben Roethlisberger fan (in fact, I am going to watch him play in person tonight) because I think he is a winner. That doesn't mean that there have not been times when I wanted to shoot my TV watching him play. Sometimes he drives me absolutely bonkers. With that said, there is no other QB I would want to have the ball with the game on the line and the team the Steelers have. Guys like Carson Palmer are noon QBs and guys like Roethlisberger are 3:45 QBs**.Jacq seems to be at a point when the game is on the line he comes through after stinking up the field for a period of time during the game. Yesterday may have been a watershed day for the kid and maybe the team. Who knows? In fact, the Zips score a lot of points in the fourth quarter when it counts. I remember a past Zips QB who always looked great for three quarters and then did nothing spectacular to win games in the fourth. Losing follows that QB around like the cloud of dust around Pig Pen in Peanuts. The QB must be a winner. I think Jacq is just what he is and is good enough to win six games if the M*A*S*H unit could fix up some of the other players. JD had good success with QBs like him at Pitt. He doesn't deserve to be called a "winner" just yet because he has actually won nothing, but let's see what happens with him. There is no need to panic at this point. What Akron really needs is someone other than DK in the backfield. I've been saying since I saw him play at NCState that he runs east/west too much. JD is loyal to a fault a lot of times.The problem with changing QB is what if it does not work? The season is over because the vote of no confidence has been given to the original starter and you can not go back to him expecting the team to respond. The Zips are 3-3 with good talent. There is no reason they should not win five or six games this season. Jacq should remain the starting QB and JD should not monkey around with putting back up players in for a series or two.* Based upon what I read on this board means the following logic. 1. Browns fans are stupid. 2. Everything Browns fans want ends up blowing up in their faces. 3. A lot of Browns fans read this board and are Zips fans. 4. A lot of fans posting on this board are stupid. 5. A lot of fans on this board want Rogers which means Browns fans want Rogers. 6. If Rogers gets in the game, the exact opposite of what Browns/Zips fans want to happen will happen. 7. Like him or not, Jacq stays in the game.** Carson Palmer is a noon QB because when he comes out to warm up at noon, he looks great. He is tall, has a huge arm and looks like a great NFL QB. The problem with the noon QB is the game starts at 1:00 and he doesn't look as good as he did at noon. At two o'clock he looks worse than he did at one. At three, he looks worse than he did at two. At 3:45 when the game is on the line he is a disaster. Guys who are winners can stink it up early, but rally late to win (see last Monday night).

Hello everyone from sunny Florida. Yes, there are good teams in the MAC East, and one of them is The University of Akron.Like you said, just win the east. Six wins could do it for us. We are at three and we need three more.

Akron 19Can't State 13Looks like it is going to be a beautiful fall day in Ohio tomorrow. Perfect football watching day. Enjoy the day if you go to the game.

GP1, You mean like Ohio State has with Pryor?Considering OSU has no hope left this season after USC took it from them along with their manhood, Pryor is a safe bet. OSU could beat Troy, Minnesota and the rest of the garbage in the Big Ten with Mr. Magoo at QB.

My friends, please be careful of putting your hopes in the hands of a first year player.

Good stuff zip81. How about something similar to what Temple does with a very simple blue lettering Akron on one side and one of three options on the other side:1. Akron again2. Zips3. The number of the player.Thanks...Something like this?I like it. Especially the font. Would it be too much to ask to see the other two options in the same font?

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Good stuff zip81. How about something similar to what Temple does with a very simple blue lettering Akron on one side and one of three options on the other side:1. Akron again2. Zips3. The number of the player.