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Always a bridesmaid and never a bride. This is basically the third AD job Mike has been passed over for (Akron, SE MO and that place in Iowa or wherever). Mike needs to be careful how much more he gets passed over because getting passed over again and again would raise a red flag for me if I was hiring. He really needs to think through his next move. Maybe he should stay with MT for MT's next move. MT will continue to move up to potentially some really big opportunities. After that, Mike W. could make his move.

A country music writer once wrote about Faith Hill, "She ain't country, but she'll do." I feel the same way about the Arena Football League. It ain't football, but in the summer it will do.

THE ONLY TIME RUMPLEMINTZ EVER REPLIES TO ONE OF YOUR JACKASS POSTS IS WHEN THE IGNORANT PIECES OF CRAP THAT YOU ARE NEED TO BE SET FREE WITH THE TRUTH............FLEMING IS NOT THE GUY THAT BROUGHT THE 3-3 IN....IF YOU HAD THE SLIGHTEST CLUE YOU WOULD KNOW THAT FLEMING NEVER RAN THE STACK IN HIS PREVIOUS YEARS AS A DC OR A HEAD COACH.....MY ONLY PRAYER IS THAT THE POOR PEOPLE OF ZIPS NATION LEARN TO SEEK THE TRUTH AND AVOID ASSUMPTIONS, IT WOULD TRULY LEAD TO A BETTER NATION!!!!!! HOW SOON WE FORGET HOW IT WAS THE DEFENSE IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS THAT KEPT THE AKRON ZIPS FOOTBALL TEAM A HALF WAY RESPECTABLE OPPONENT IN THE PAST WHEN THERE WAS NO OFFENSIVE OUTPUT!!!!!!!HAPPY HOLIDAYS ZIPS NATION AND HAVE A RUMPLEMINTZ ON ME!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!! We are seeing history here. I think this is the first time a person has ever been called a jackass for posting a link to a newspaper article on a web board.

Great job CB!This story gives me a chance to make fun of myself so I will take it..... Blackburn's last year at Akron I went to the OU game with my brother. He coached in college for a lot of years and even coached at the BCS level. He is really a good guy to watch and talk about football with. The defense Akron played was not really a fit for Blackburn so he really did not standout that much. My brother told me during the game, "That #44 is the best player on Akron's team" and "He is going to be in the NFL some day." I immediately began to laugh and tell him Blackburn doesn't do anything good enough to make the NFL. Believe it or not, I said Frye would make a better NFL player than Blackburn. My brother said something like, "No, that kid has the speed and build for an NFL LB. You watch, he will be on an NFL team next year. He's just playing in a defense that does not fit his ability. He is made for the NFL" That was the only time my brother saw him play in college and figured it out in one hour.

I agree. They are a threat, but not an immediate threat.I worry that Waters will duck UofA for a few years and then when his team gets built at CSU he will put us back on the schedule. It always worries me when the Zips have to play against more talent and a better coach. I don't worry much about the recruits as we play a different style of BB than Waters and each school recruits for that style.I don't worry much about media attention because that is hard to control and quite frankly, the media attention the two schools get isn't much to worry about even if I had to worry about it.

I know that Waters had his troubles at Rutgers, but I think John Wooden would have had trouble at Rutgers. Coach Waters is the IMHO the second best college basketball coach in Ohio behind Miller at Xavier (Miller has much more to work with though). He is a perfect fit for CSU as he does well taking a few at risk kids and turning them into a good team....he probably tried the same thing at Rutgers, but was crushed by the talet of some of the long time Big East powers (the last I checked, the Big East has seven teams in the top twenty-five...amazing). I think CSU has a good future in front of them with him running the show.

You're right in one sense GP1. It says what a chickensh__ idiot Hoke really is. I lived on the West Coast for many of the last 20 years, and yes the weather can be wonderful. Before I move on to Hoke though, for those of you who have never lived in a "one season" place, it can be great, but can also get tedious, boring, oppressive. I missed the seasons terribly while I lived out west, and other than February and March here, don't miss west coast weather at all.Now back to Hoke. There is no trading up in going to SDSU to be the head football coach. Of all of the college programs that came to mind for most football fans in that part of the country, SDSU is never mentioned, nobody cares about the program, it's a doormat, a running joke. Let's talk $$$ too. That 700K salary may not even buy him much of an increase in quality of life. It won't buy him much of an increase in exposure, it won't buy relevance to college football. Unless he's from California and just wanted to get closer to home, taking the "step up" (???) to SDSU is not a step up at all.Lastly, coaching is not a profession wherein the weather should dominate your decision-making. Many of the best coaching jobs in the country are in terrible places for weather. You tell me about a football coach who would run to a SDSU to take over the program because the weather is so beautiful, and I'll tell you about a complete d-bag. GO ZIPS!SeeTeeZipInteresting note. I live in a state where I get 2 months of winter, 2 months of fall, 2 months of spring and 6 months of summer. The sun is out almost every day. Everyone is in a constantly good mood for the most part. Ohio is full of good people who are driven insane by the gloomy weather. When the Vitamin D level drops, so does the good mood.$700K is a ton of money anywhere. The guy is going to have a good living in a great place. I'm sure the weekend trips to the beach are probably going to be much more fun than the trips to the corn maze in Muncie during the county wide 4-H championships.Buying relevance in college football? What could be more irrelevant than coaching in the MAC? Could the media in California really pay less attention to SDSU than local media reports on MAC schools? He needs to leave now while the iron is hot.I don't know about "many of the best coaching jobs" being in cold weather states. It seems to me that the SEC, Big 12 and PAC 10 have the best coaching opportunities and almost off of the good schools in those conferences are in warm states like Florida, Texas, California, Georgia, Alabama, etc.This guy is making the right move. San Diego presents an opportunity that the Muncie does not. Kids want to play in warm weather. California is crawling full of good QBs that will fit well into his system. He really found a diamond in the rough with Davis. The midwest really does not product the type of throwing QBs that you see out west. With around 1 in 10 Americans living in California, he stands a better chance of finding another Davis than he does in Muncie."The sun is out almost every day. Everyone is in a constantly good mood for the most part. Ohio is full of good people who are driven insane by the gloomy weather. When the Vitamin D level drops, so does the good mood."Uh, yeah, sure. OK. Not that your assertion is anything more than an extremely GROSS generalization, like much of the rest of your post."Kids want to play in warm weather. California is crawling full of good QBs that will fit well into his system. He really found a diamond in the rough with Davis. The midwest really does not product the type of throwing QBs that you see out west."Wow. So I guess that all of those kids, and professionals, playing anywhere other than the Southwest and the South are deficient, as are those of us who love living in these parts of the country. Another GROSS generalization not backed up by ANY facts presented by you.Sorry fellas, but unless you've lived in California for any length of time (I have, in Northern Cali AND Southern Cali for many years) you just can't appreciate what a joke SDSU is to people out there. It's considered to be nothing more than a not-very-good party school. It's a classic "Surfer U" where parents dread that their kids will go there and become 50-year-old pot-smoking, pot-bellied surfer bums. Their football program is a door mat, and will continue to be. Hoke may get a little more sunshine in his eyes, but he sure as hell hasn't made the type of Urban Myer move many otherwise expected. And lastly, I get a little touchy about the loser mentality that we so often see and hear here. I made the very conscious decision a few years ago to move back here, from the West Coast by way of WDC. This area is hard hit economically. However, this region takes a back seat to nowhere else, in any substantive way. The not-so-subtle suggestion that a guy like Hoke has done well to essentially escape this part of the country, regardless of the details of the actual program he's headed for, simply does not ring true to anybody of any substance, and certainly not to people who love it here.GO ZIPS!SeeTeeZipDid you come back to live in a mental institution? Get some sun and you won't be so angry.

You're right in one sense GP1. It says what a chickensh__ idiot Hoke really is. I lived on the West Coast for many of the last 20 years, and yes the weather can be wonderful. Before I move on to Hoke though, for those of you who have never lived in a "one season" place, it can be great, but can also get tedious, boring, oppressive. I missed the seasons terribly while I lived out west, and other than February and March here, don't miss west coast weather at all.Now back to Hoke. There is no trading up in going to SDSU to be the head football coach. Of all of the college programs that came to mind for most football fans in that part of the country, SDSU is never mentioned, nobody cares about the program, it's a doormat, a running joke. Let's talk $$$ too. That 700K salary may not even buy him much of an increase in quality of life. It won't buy him much of an increase in exposure, it won't buy relevance to college football. Unless he's from California and just wanted to get closer to home, taking the "step up" (???) to SDSU is not a step up at all.Lastly, coaching is not a profession wherein the weather should dominate your decision-making. Many of the best coaching jobs in the country are in terrible places for weather. You tell me about a football coach who would run to a SDSU to take over the program because the weather is so beautiful, and I'll tell you about a complete d-bag. GO ZIPS!SeeTeeZipInteresting note. I live in a state where I get 2 months of winter, 2 months of fall, 2 months of spring and 6 months of summer. The sun is out almost every day. Everyone is in a constantly good mood for the most part. Ohio is full of good people who are driven insane by the gloomy weather. When the Vitamin D level drops, so does the good mood.$700K is a ton of money anywhere. The guy is going to have a good living in a great place. I'm sure the weekend trips to the beach are probably going to be much more fun than the trips to the corn maze in Muncie during the county wide 4-H championships.Buying relevance in college football? What could be more irrelevant than coaching in the MAC? Could the media in California really pay less attention to SDSU than local media reports on MAC schools? He needs to leave now while the iron is hot.I don't know about "many of the best coaching jobs" being in cold weather states. It seems to me that the SEC, Big 12 and PAC 10 have the best coaching opportunities and almost off of the good schools in those conferences are in warm states like Florida, Texas, California, Georgia, Alabama, etc.This guy is making the right move. San Diego presents an opportunity that the Muncie does not. Kids want to play in warm weather. California is crawling full of good QBs that will fit well into his system. He really found a diamond in the rough with Davis. The midwest really does not product the type of throwing QBs that you see out west. With around 1 in 10 Americans living in California, he stands a better chance of finding another Davis than he does in Muncie.

I've been to Muncie. I have been to San Diego. You all should feel confident this move has nothing to do with the MAC.

Excellent post CK. Especially this last part. I was winding up to something similar myself. Thanks for saving me the time. I'm sure there are others that feel the same way.

78 points.....That's what I'm talking about! Much better Zips.

The best thing for BSU is going to a BCS game. That will not happen. The second best thing is the Motor City Bowl. They should go to that.

I think DH is about to make himself a lot of money. Maybe some of that money Matt Cassel lost with the Patriots last week will come DH's way.

Especially if it agrees with what the great GP1 says.

I think everyone realized the guys need to get here first. We certainly need to not recruit those who can not even get in the door. We do need to go after those guys who can barely get in the door though if we want to win. The question is always about how bad a school wants to win. Schools like Ohio State get at risk kids all the time and keep them in school and a lot of them graduate. Our problem is we get an at risk kid in school at Akron and he flunks out after a couple of semesters because there is no support. Akron needs to develop a program to keep more at risk kids in school. The more talent we can draw and keep will only make us better.

Great point. Just think of how good we could be if we had the academic support system to keep some of the at risk kids JD brought here.

And that's not saying much. Both of those guys are CFL qbs. Not to defend Jacq, but to move this conversation in another direction, what is the difference between Jacq and most of the third string QBs in the NFL? As bad a Jacq is at times, he is one stupid team away from holding a clipboard on Sundays. Most of the third string QB can only complete five yard outs to tight ends. Please don't take this as a knock on Frye, but that's all he did for two years in Cleveland.Isn't the rea question about Jacq, Is he a misunderstood, misused, poorly coached genius of a QB or is he Ebby LaLoosh in a football uniform?

I don't know how many of you saw it yesterday or not, but Chris Carter gave Dom a glowing review on the CBS pregame show at noon. Basically he said that Dom has better hands, runs better routes and is faster than Burris. Put that all together and you have a better player in Dom. All of that without the stupidity means that Burris has a short time left in NY.

GP1 is a bit long winded for a Dead Horse....Nice!Dead Horse posters are usually board moderators.I heard over the weekend that Bill Cowher will be the coach of both the Browns, BGSU and his daughters basketball team at Wofford College. Can anyone confirm that rumor?

Wow, You will be happy if JD wins 6 games next year. BGSU just fired their coach for only winning 6 games. You will be happy wth 6 games....Here is another way to put it that you may relate to better. If tsou played an out of conference schedule that consisted of teams say the quality of USC and they lost all four per year. Then they lost one or two in the Big Ten, would you be this critical of Coach T. or would you be one of the people saying, "He is building a team we can all be proud of."The Zips are not in that much of a different spot than tosu. tosu is just able to hide their averageness with a bunch of piss poor out of conference teams and a bad conference. The Zips do not have that type of money to throw at their averageness.

I need to respond to this as you constantly rip on the Browns' fans. While I am not a Brown's fan, your logic on why they are idots is completely wrong. But before I get to the Browns, I agree about JD. He needs to change the defense from the 3-3-5 or he should get fired. The last three years have ended terribly. Going 0-3 to end the season against two very bad teams is an embarrassment. I prefer to make a change regardless, but if he makes the necessary staff/philosophical changes I would give hime one more year. The scary thing is is that he seems to be heading toward the Faust/Owens path of about 40 wins if he stays around for 9 years.Back to the Browns. Sure there are a lot a idiotic fans. But I've watched games in Pittsburgh and in Cleveland and I find very little difference in how you all act. You just happen to root for the the team with 5 SB championships. As my kids would say, big wup. Lumping Zips fans with Browns' fan makes no sense. The Zips have several hundred thousand alumni around the country and we have somehwere between 200 and 2000 true blue fans. Again, big wup.Browns' fans in general are somewhat misguided, but I do appreciate their passion. Unfortunately, this is not entirely their fault. In fact, the mere existince of my favorite college football factory in c bus actually does more harm to Browns' fans than they would ever admit to. You see, most Browns' fans are also tosu fans, even though 99% of them have no affiliation with the school.Here is how they are misled/idiots:1. McSweatervest rolls out of bed the first week of February and signs the best 18 players in the state and 4 of the best players around the country. Conversely, Crennel/Savage spend days deciding who to choose in the first round and then get about 8 good players in the draft, IF they are lucky enough to make the right selections. Talent advantage: A-holes in cbus.2. McSweatervest and the AD scour the country to find 3 or 4 of the easiest non-conference opponents to play and play in the easist bcs conference while getting to play 7 or 8 of those games at home/neutral fields. Conversely, the Browns are told who they play and only get 50% of those games at home...and there are no Younstown State's on the Browns' schedule. Scheduling Advantage: A-holes in c-bus.3. The idots in c-bus rake in $8-10 million per football weekend when all purchases and donations for football are averaged per home contest. Conversely, the Browns have a salary cap to work within, but so do the other 31 teams. Keeping players eligible and out of jail is completely funded in c-bus. Fiscal Advantage: A-holes in c-bus.When it's all added up, it's easy to see why 10 wins in nearly guaranteed in a-hole land. It's also easy to see why it's so difficult to win in the NFL and why Browns' fan have become discouraged and then act like idiots. Have at it Buckzip and sgm.....P.S. Zips soccer - 1, A-holes in cbus - 0.Interesting thesis and there is probably some truth to it. However, I still believe my Browns/Zips fan logic is correct. My logic does not assume 100% of Browns fans are idiots, only a large majority of them who make life miserable for the small minority.I should also clarify that not all Browns fans are idiots at everything. I have met many, many Browns fans who are actually extremely intelligent at many things, but turn into low IQ slackjaws when it comes to football. The whole theory centers around everything they want blowing up in their faces. It happens so often, it sort of proves the theory.In order to prove a theory, all other possibilities must be proven wrong. If anyone can show me something that Browns fans have wanted that worked out for them, I would be willing to listen. Even a big issue like being awarded an expansion team asap blew up in their faces. Then there is poor Brady Quinn. All the poor guy wants to do is play football and help the team win any way he can. When the fans finally get him in the game, his season is over in no time.

Weren't three of those wins in the last three years of LO against I-AA teams (Howard, Cal Poly and Liberty)? I'm sure that if that was the case and we filled those I-AA spots with I-A teams, the record would look more like 25-34. I fail to see how that is better than 27-32. Don't forget the wins against BCS teams and the MAC Championship either.I'm not being overly defensive of JD because if he got fired tomorrow I would not lose a minute of sleep over it, but this team is better now than it was under the LO era. After 9 years at Akron, LO could only muster 5 wins against I-A teams his last year.Lee inherited a disaster of a program and had the worst facilities and administrative support in the nation to deal with. JD inherited a team with 4 future NFL players, coming off a winning record, one of the top graduation rates in the NCAA, and one of the top brand new practice facilities in the nation. STARTING OFF with that, he can barely muster 5 wins in his fifth season, in what has become the worst division in college football (the 2003 MAC had 3 ranked teams throughout the year and was knocking off ranked teams left and right). The comparison doesn't look too hot for your man JD.You are dodging the point. JD would have a better record vs. LO if LO didn't play three cream puffs. It's OK to say your comparison isn't quite honest if you look closely.So JD is two or three games better than LO over the course of five years. Big deal!!! The results are still not good enough as I have described in several other posts. The facilities and administrative support differences are also notable.Yes, over a five year period, JD is better than LO. Yes, the results aren't good enough.Some of you need to calm down. JD is coming back next year and we will see then whether he has the ability to win at least six games or not.

the next football excitement is when the season ticket holders for the Info get to go in and pick there seats...thats according to the ticket orifice...I am pretty curious as to what procedure they intend to use for this whole "pick your seat" thing. Does anyone have any insight?If its like at other new sports facilities, the season ticket purchasers show up on a given day and are told to pick any seats with a specific color tag. They are then turned loose and can choose from whatever seats still have the tags of the appropriate color. Once the tag is removed, the seat is off the market. I've never done it but I've heard its like a gold rush for the first people in the park.Sort of like land claims in Oklahoma in the 1800's. Can they shoot anyone who runs in early?

Wow, You will be happy if JD wins 6 games next year. BGSU just fired their coach for only winning 6 games. You will be happy wth 6 games...."At least" six games......

Weren't three of those wins in the last three years of LO against I-AA teams (Howard, Cal Poly and Liberty)? I'm sure that if that was the case and we filled those I-AA spots with I-A teams, the record would look more like 25-34. I fail to see how that is better than 27-32. Don't forget the wins against BCS teams and the MAC Championship either.I'm not being overly defensive of JD because if he got fired tomorrow I would not lose a minute of sleep over it, but this team is better now than it was under the LO era. After 9 years at Akron, LO could only muster 5 wins against I-A teams his last year.Lee inherited a disaster of a program and had the worst facilities and administrative support in the nation to deal with. JD inherited a team with 4 future NFL players, coming off a winning record, one of the top graduation rates in the NCAA, and one of the top brand new practice facilities in the nation. STARTING OFF with that, he can barely muster 5 wins in his fifth season, in what has become the worst division in college football (the 2003 MAC had 3 ranked teams throughout the year and was knocking off ranked teams left and right). The comparison doesn't look too hot for your man JD.You are dodging the point. JD would have a better record vs. LO if LO didn't play three cream puffs. It's OK to say your comparison isn't quite honest if you look closely.