ZachTheZip Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Does anybody else think we may have found a gem with this guy? He's a sophomore walk-on, but the guy can play. He led our defense last week with 18 tackles, and seems to be the main reason PJ Hill didn't break 300 yards last week.If he keeps playing like that, there's no reason he shouldn't earn himself a scholarship next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 This is from Dan Kadar's live blog from the game(2:24) Brookhart needs to really decide if Tyler Campbell should be getting this much playing time on the defense. It seems like he’s been on the bad end of a lot of plays.Here is a photo of such a play.Let's hope he gets it together this weekend. I'll have my eye on him next weekend, it's tough to get a fair judgment from tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Does anybody else think we may have found a gem with this guy? He's a sophomore walk-on, but the guy can play. He led our defense last week with 18 tackles, and seems to be the main reason PJ Hill didn't break 300 yards last week.If he keeps playing like that, there's no reason he shouldn't earn himself a scholarship next year.I agree he had a lot of tackles and that looks impressive. However, they were all way down field. It's not like he was making hits at or behind the LOS.It shows our lack of recruiting when a Soph walkon is starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA1987 Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Does anybody else think we may have found a gem with this guy? He's a sophomore walk-on, but the guy can play. He led our defense last week with 18 tackles, and seems to be the main reason PJ Hill didn't break 300 yards last week.If he keeps playing like that, there's no reason he shouldn't earn himself a scholarship next year.It's hard to tell after only one game, but it seems he has the intangibles (enthusiasm and wreckless abandon for his own health) that may set him apart. Some call this heart. I can think of two others that played like this - Jay Rohr and John Mackey... not a bad group to pattern yourself after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Does anybody else think we may have found a gem with this guy? He's a sophomore walk-on, but the guy can play. He led our defense last week with 18 tackles, and seems to be the main reason PJ Hill didn't break 300 yards last week.If he keeps playing like that, there's no reason he shouldn't earn himself a scholarship next year.I'm with uakronkid. I think we've found something with this guy! After the Wisky game I said on another thread that I have a new favorite player - Tyler Campbell! I respectfully disagree with Kadar. When I read his comment I just had to laugh at the different perspectives. I know TC got burnt on a handful of plays but IMHO that's because he was ALWAYS AROUND THE BALL. When you're involved in almost every play from scrimmage you're going to win some and lose some. IMO, the number of tackles he had is more indicative of the ineffectiveness of our D-Line, but none-the-less, TC was a ball-hawk. He was never out of the view of the camera; always around the ball.When I heard that this walk-on named Tyler Campbell was pushing Jalil Carter for the starting job, I was surprised and frankly, thought, "Whatever." Jalil Carter is a much better athlete than TC - I believe Jalil finished second in the state in the 100-meters both his junior and senior years. But TC is just a throwback, blue-collared, ball-hawk football player. He is our next John Mackey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd&twenty Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Does anybody else think we may have found a gem with this guy? He's a sophomore walk-on, but the guy can play. He led our defense last week with 18 tackles, and seems to be the main reason PJ Hill didn't break 300 yards last week.If he keeps playing like that, there's no reason he shouldn't earn himself a scholarship next year.It's hard to tell after only one game, but it seems he has the intangibles (enthusiasm and wreckless abandon for his own health) that may set him apart. Some call this heart. I can think of two others that played like this - Jay Rohr and John Mackey... not a bad group to pattern yourself after.Earlier this week I was telling a friend who didn't see the game that this kid really reminded me of Mackey. He was all over the place. The skills will develop over time, but he obviously has something that's pretty hard to teach: a good work ethic. 10 more like him on defense and we won't fall apart in the 4th as has been the case too many times in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted September 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Does anybody else think we may have found a gem with this guy? He's a sophomore walk-on, but the guy can play. He led our defense last week with 18 tackles, and seems to be the main reason PJ Hill didn't break 300 yards last week.If he keeps playing like that, there's no reason he shouldn't earn himself a scholarship next year.I agree he had a lot of tackles and that looks impressive. However, they were all way down field. It's not like he was making hits at or behind the LOS.It shows our lack of recruiting when a Soph walkon is starting.He's a safety. In a 3-3-5, they don't make plays at the LOS. It's his job to chase down players who make it through the DL and linebackers (which is just about everyone). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipthezip Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 When 45% of your defense is playing 8-10 yards off the ball, you don't get a lot of chances for tackles at the LOS. Gotta love the 3-3-5. By the way, I haven't seen it stated on the board in quite a while but it's Friday and Can't State still SUCKS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Does anybody else think we may have found a gem with this guy? He's a sophomore walk-on, but the guy can play. He led our defense last week with 18 tackles, and seems to be the main reason PJ Hill didn't break 300 yards last week.If he keeps playing like that, there's no reason he shouldn't earn himself a scholarship next year.I agree he had a lot of tackles and that looks impressive. However, they were all way down field. It's not like he was making hits at or behind the LOS.It shows our lack of recruiting when a Soph walkon is starting.Yep dirty walkons, just drag the team down.Like this guy...Mike Schmidtand this guy...SmithShows a total lack of recruiting on the parts of those teams too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zff Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Does anybody else think we may have found a gem with this guy? He's a sophomore walk-on, but the guy can play. He led our defense last week with 18 tackles, and seems to be the main reason PJ Hill didn't break 300 yards last week.If he keeps playing like that, there's no reason he shouldn't earn himself a scholarship next year.I agree he had a lot of tackles and that looks impressive. However, they were all way down field. It's not like he was making hits at or behind the LOS.It shows our lack of recruiting when a Soph walkon is starting.Yep dirty walkons, just drag the team down.Like this guy...Mike Schmidtand this guy...SmithShows a total lack of recruiting on the parts of those teams too. Thanks Gmann I was think in the same thing.All of this walkon talk is for not.......Here is a story about Campbell LinkHere is a quote:There were no players with experience returning at free safety, and Campbell went after the job headfirst. He was placed on scholarship during the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Does anybody else think we may have found a gem with this guy? He's a sophomore walk-on, but the guy can play. He led our defense last week with 18 tackles, and seems to be the main reason PJ Hill didn't break 300 yards last week.If he keeps playing like that, there's no reason he shouldn't earn himself a scholarship next year.I agree he had a lot of tackles and that looks impressive. However, they were all way down field. It's not like he was making hits at or behind the LOS.It shows our lack of recruiting when a Soph walkon is starting.Yep dirty walkons, just drag the team down.Like this guy...Mike Schmidtand this guy...SmithShows a total lack of recruiting on the parts of those teams too.Yeah great line. So I guess every walkon is a star now because of few exceptions. Also, most walkons that succeed don't do it their soph year. They sit and end up being decent by their junior or senior year. Smith started only his RS Senior year.Again, to have a soph walkon as a starter shows a lack of recruiting.Disagree if you must. I guess when we finish with an actual winning record your point may be proven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 buck zip i do agree except our defense has lotts of db/lb types in the ball game at one time.unless jd finds a way to get some quality dl we are stuck with the 3-3-5.i don't like the defense,but i think we have no choice right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 buck zip i do agree except our defense has lotts of db/lb types in the ball game at one time.unless jd finds a way to get some quality dl we are stuck with the 3-3-5.i don't like the defense,but i think we have no choice right now.That's the thing. For the first time I can remember, we do have some D-lineman. To be good at the 3-3-5, you need good LB's too.We don't have that. We don't have very good DB's either. Bain, Lively(when healthy). Sewell, Lemon, Pendleton, Rash, Marcoux, Harvey, Hasime, Cowles.That is some beef right there. If JD didn't switch from the 3-3-5 now, he never will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 It's hard to recruit good DBs, we should change our D to the 5-3-3. PS Aren't two of these DB's supposed to be playing close to the the LOS if the D suspects run (but not the FS)?Nice linky zff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyAlum Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Hey Buckzip, I am continually amazed at your disdain for walk-ons. Google "walk-ons" and see what a great contribution they have made to many football programs across the nation. There are many reasons a player is not awarded a scholarship. He may have had an serious injury in HS and they don't want to gamble a scholarship. He may have chosen the wrong school for him and need to transfer and work his way into a scholarship. Even your Jim Tressel has a soft spot for walk-ons. They bring a desire and motivation to practice that many of the other players don't have. I cheer for the walk-ons. They play for the love of the game and they do it while spending their own money for their education. You act like recruiting is a finite science when in reality it is often hit or miss. That walk-on may be playing because the highly recruited player got too big for his britches and didn't take care of business on the field or in the classroom. Being a walk-on is much more demanding than having a free ride so I salute Tyler Campbell and any others like him who have gone that road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Hey Buckzip, I am continually amazed at your disdain for walk-ons. Google "walk-ons" and see what a great contribution they have made to many football programs across the nation. There are many reasons a player is not awarded a scholarship. He may have had an serious injury in HS and they don't want to gamble a scholarship. He may have chosen the wrong school for him and need to transfer and work his way into a scholarship. Even your Jim Tressel has a soft spot for walk-ons. They bring a desire and motivation to practice that many of the other players don't have. I cheer for the walk-ons. They play for the love of the game and they do it while spending their own money for their education. You act like recruiting is a finite science when in reality it is often hit or miss. That walk-on may be playing because the highly recruited player got too big for his britches and didn't take care of business on the field or in the classroom. Being a walk-on is much more demanding than having a free ride so I salute Tyler Campbell and any others like him who have gone that road.Where have I shown a disdain for walkons? Because I said starting a sophomore walkon show a problem with recruiting is not a disdain for walkons. Because I talked about 1 walkon, I now have a disdain for walkons. Wow, a little exageration there.. :blink: I respect the hell out of walkons. Those are the guys that are truly doing it for the love of the game. My problem isn't with the walkons, my problem is with our recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyAlum Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Last year you had quite a few unsavory things to say about walk-ons too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Last year you had quite a few unsavory things to say about walk-ons too!Please provide proof of that, because I don't remember saying any such thing. The only walkon I can think of is Pendleton, and I actually like him.I will wait for some proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanie 4 Heisman Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 I love how people on here want to switch defensive schemes during the season. That will never happen on any level probably not even CYO haha. Anyhow i do believe TC is on scholarship now. He may have been put on last spring. He started at Wisconsin because of injuries to Jalil Carter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 I love how people on here want to switch defensive schemes during the season.C'mon, Beanie. You can't be serious? The grousing over the 3-3-5 didn't start this season. What's written is a continuation of at least 1 1/2 years of frustration.To be fair -- We're getting mauled, but we're still better than any of Lee Owens' defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 I blame the injuries. You can't lose two big guys off your DL and expect them to keep it plugged up against the run.I just hope that when they are back our offense doesn't go too conservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 I love how people on here want to switch defensive schemes during the season.C'mon, Beanie. You can't be serious? The grousing over the 3-3-5 didn't start this season. What's written is a continuation of at least 1 1/2 years of frustration.To be fair -- We're getting mauled, but we're still better than any of Lee Owens' defenses.Was thinking this same thing yesterday. The D was pushed around again yesterday for sure, but there is no way LO's D makes that crucial 4th down stop (BWill!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanie 4 Heisman Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 I will give you that. People on here have been wanting to switch for a while. But i just hate hearing it through the season even though we have been getting gashed. I will be the first to tell you that i hate to see a team hand the ball off haha. Our D- Line needs the sze and skills of lively and Bain. But i do think we looked better when Wally P came into the game yesterday even though it probably came by a season ending injury to Cowles Stewart. ( not sure about that yet, btw). Yesterday i was wondering why we didnt sub in more D-Lineman i know it is hard to during drives at times, but i thought we could have done a better job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 I will give you that. People on here have been wanting to switch for a while. But i just hate hearing it through the season even though we have been getting gashed. I will be the first to tell you that i hate to see a team hand the ball off haha. Our D- Line needs the sze and skills of lively and Bain. But i do think we looked better when Wally P came into the game yesterday even though it probably came by a season ending injury to Cowles Stewart. ( not sure about that yet, btw). Yesterday i was wondering why we didnt sub in more D-Lineman i know it is hard to during drives at times, but i thought we could have done a better job.What happened to Cowles???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 I will give you that. People on here have been wanting to switch for a while. But i just hate hearing it through the season even though we have been getting gashed. I will be the first to tell you that i hate to see a team hand the ball off haha. Our D- Line needs the sze and skills of lively and Bain. But i do think we looked better when Wally P came into the game yesterday even though it probably came by a season ending injury to Cowles Stewart. ( not sure about that yet, btw). Yesterday i was wondering why we didnt sub in more D-Lineman i know it is hard to during drives at times, but i thought we could have done a better job.What happened to Cowles????Went down with what looked like a knee from my view in the endzone. He was out of uniform leaving the field after the game and on crutches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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