Hilltopper Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Did anyone else notice the MAJOR battle going on tonite between Dambrot and Peterson. DP played only 15 minutes on a night when we desperatly needed his scoring. The final time KD pulled him from the game, there were harsh words exchanged. KD even made mention of the situation during the postgame show. Is it because of some defensive deficiency, or too much one on one on offense,or...? Whatever the problem is , they need to get it resolved for the sake of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Pouch Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Did anyone else notice the MAJOR battle going on tonite between Dambrot and Peterson. DP played only 15 minutes on a night when we desperatly needed his scoring. The final time KD pulled him from the game, there were harsh words exchanged. KD even made mention of the situation during the postgame show. Is it because of some defensive deficiency, or too much one on one on offense,or...? Whatever the problem is , they need to get it resolved for the sake of the team. KD downplayed it during the postgame -- Complimenting DP on his team first mentality and setting aside any compliants about his lack of playing time at the end. It's interesting though that RM has really picked it up since he has been starting -- I dont think I would change a thing here. DP may be better off the bench for a scoring punch. RM seemed to indicate he had a problem getting into the flow of the game not starting in his post game interview last week. Obviously, we need both of these guys contributing offensively. DP made some huge baskets tonight. I hope KD can reduce any issues that exist (if they exist) and keep everyone focused on their roles and team play. We are very good when we play as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I would hope DP looks at the scoreboard after tonight's game...looks at the MAC standings...and says "This is where I want to be, whether I get 35 minutes, or 15 minutes." We got rid of the guys that were concerned more with PT and their scoring lines than wins (last year), and we've been semi-unstoppable ever since. Hang a banner in the JAR, DP. That's what it's all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zip Supporter Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 So why did DP not play much tonight when we needed him? Bubba was not scoring tonight, I think in certain games, he is afraid to use his shot. Maybe the so called excellent writers of the Buchtelite got to him. Anyways, I really do not want to be reminded of the Hipsher era as far as I'm concerned. The last two years were awful and we all got upset or sick of Hipsher's decisions with playing players. 2 years ago, Hollingsworth would play 35 minutes a game when we were up by 20 or down 20, so Hicks and maybe Penno got fed up and left. That is one example I could give for now. But anyway, Zips winners of 10 out of last 12 look to Can't Saturday. I really cannot tell our game plan for that game. These remaining games coming up are crucial for tournament seeds. It prob wouldn't be a good idea trying to go in winning everything. Bowling Green and Miami know that you become more relaxed that way and don't aim as high. More students to the game please, you shouldn't have to be bribed by something to go. I'm sure fans are tired of hearing about free iPod giveaways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zips Supporter Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 The RPI rankings should be higher for the Zips now. We are 3-2 versus mid-major top 25 teams now. I never understand why the media underrates the Zips so much. The media gives Can't State so much credit, yeah they are about 20 win seasons, but look at the wins by Akron this year. vs. Ohio 71-59 (+12) vs. Ball State 79-64 (+15) vs. Buffalo 75-59 (+16) at Bowling Green 71-69 (+2) vs. Toledo 81-79 (+2) vs. Miami 55-49 (+6) Yet Western Michigan, Buffalo, Bowling Green, and Can't State still got the better teams as far as RPI rankings. I am glad we won Saturday because I have disliked this bracket buster for a while. Had Miami lost to Wichita State, it probably wouldn't have meant nothing much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I have heard alot of players are not happy with ptime. I also heard Goddard will probably transfer which is best for him, because he is a good player who is not being used at all..... Some of the players not happy have surprised me because it looks like to me they are getting some good time (some freshman).... all in all I hope this problem is getting better but it seems to be getting worse.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipster Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Whether or not some players are happy with playing time or not, KD will play the kids he feels WILL win him the game. This is not CYO ball where the minutes are divided up equally. It is plain and simple this season that you have to earn your minutes. Give it all you you got in practice and give it all you got at game time. I don't get why we finally have a team that's winning and there's always someone out there to start hashing up negatives. Can't we just enjoy the ride and let the coaches do their jobs. Afterall, what they are doing is working so far - they must be doing something right. Let's keep it going ZIPS! Beat Can't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Pouch Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I have heard alot of players are not happy with ptime. I also heard Goddard will probably transfer which is best for him, because he is a good player who is not being used at all..... Some of the players not happy have surprised me because it looks like to me they are getting some good time (some freshman).... all in all I hope this problem is getting better but it seems to be getting worse.... Not many good players want to be on the bench -- This is a problem that all teams have but good TEAMS don't let it get in the way of W's. I'd be surprised if this is a big issue -- or the guys are very good actors with the media and radio people -- Everyone seems bought into the KD and TEAM mentality. There has been a lot of talk about this TEAM liking each other and the new systems. I doubt there is much true "insider information" to this thread but from a few. With the stlye of play, it looks like most guys are looking for the breather on the bench -- it is needed when you play this type of defense. Cap't said it best above -- "Hang a banner in JAR" -- Thats what everyone will remember. I'll add that I hope everyone would trade a few minutes to experiance not only a MAC Championship but a Tourney (NIT or NCAA) opportunity. Goddard should transfer if he is unhappy. It would be best for him and the TEAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Two thoughts on this: 1. I sit directly across from the bench and have a good view of things. My observation is that DP was frustrated with having an off night, moreso than PT. Let's not read too much into that. He'll always be back with energy and intensity. We all need to take a DEEP breath and understand that things are going pretty well. We don't need to look for something to worry about. Let's worry about the next game and getting over to the MACC to support our guys. Our guys are playing their hearts out and the entire team has bought into the team concept of KD .. no exceptions. Let's not dig for problems that aren't there. 2. A second note to the Wadsworth people: WE ALL LIKE GODDARD TOO .. just because he didn't play last night doesn't meant that: "there are several players unhappy with playing time" .. "people are going to transfer" ... etc. etc. etc. Get over it and decide whether or not you support the Zips. Nick helps this team every night by the efforts he puts in during practice. He will have additional opportunities in his career (THREE More years!!!) to knock down big shots for the Zips. Stop with this conspiracy crap .. freshmen never play as much as they think they might. Bottom line, if you watch the bench during the games this year .. and compare it to prior years .. these guys are on board with the Zips . I suggest you decide if you're on board or off .. and drop the doomsday trolling. Note: These comments not meant for Hilltopper .. he just made an observation .. not a doomsday prediciton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russ Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Man Whats with the doomsday, because you are stating something that is obvious on any team, you are getting all bent out of shape. I agree if Goddard isn't happy then go somewhere else... but he seems to be hanging in there, time will tell.... Do you ever watch Bubba come out of a game, not happy at all.... he is a FRESHMAN, getting more than enough playing time. I think the team will be fine, every team goes through this...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BZ Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Alot of Freshman, and Sophs sit. I maybe can see a guy considering a transfer if he is a Frosh, and another Frosh is starting at his position, and looks like he will be there for 4 more years. However, to transfer because you aren't playing much your Freshman year is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Do you ever watch Bubba come out of a game, not happy at all.... he is a FRESHMAN, getting more than enough playing time. I think the team will be fine, every team goes through this...... I watch Bubba come out a lot .. & I think he's like that because he thinks he should make EVERY shot. Bubba has high expectations of himself, and when it isn't dropping .. he gets ticked off .. that's what I see when he comes out. This team REALLY wants to win .. and it shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan37 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 There are ALWAYS someone out there with a negative attitude, I go back a LONG time and here are those that were critical of tems for various reason of those coached by Laterza, Webb, Huggins-- so the crepe hangers are always out there, along with their "inside information, or astute obsevations, they cannot or will not wnjoy the ride. THEY LOVE THE BUMPS. :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Real Deal Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I observed something last night on the televised broadcast that spoke volumes to me about this TEAM. Late in the game, Bubba was sitting at the scorer's table, waiting to enter the game and Miami was bringing the ball up court. Bubba was sitting on there, slapping his hand on the floor, encouraging his teammates. It occured to me that this tiny, otherwise insignificant gesture signified something I did not see a whole lot of in recent years - excitement, enthusiasm, intensity. By this point in years past, all of that was gone. KD has these guys believing that in the end, it will all be worth it. Like Charlie Coles said, "Akron is for real." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan37 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Posters: RealtimeRPI.com has the Zips at 37. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zff Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Oh this guy is unhappy about playing and this guy is unhappy about this........ Note to all guest posters....Knock the rumor S#$t Off!!!!!!!! And you know if anybody is uhappy about anything then get the hell out!!!!! All the freshman are getting some PT right now. They should feel lucky cause very few freshamn get any PT. And if a walkon is crying about time tough Sorry but a kid on scholarship will play first Period!!!!!!!! Hilltopper started a good topic and guest posters have to turn it around into rumor crap.. Come fellow Zip fans Enjoy the Time........The Zips are one game out of first with only three to go!!!!!!! Now lets pay Can't Back!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 You gotta be kidding me ZFF, do you think this is one big happy family? Get real.... every team has problems, just because we are posting some of them you guys are getting all bent out of shape.... welcome to reality! Just because we know some of the players personally and know about some of this sh**..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ***GUEST_zipfan maybe*** Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 so scholarship before walkon? Even if you turn out to be nothing... thats too bad but you are right, that seems like the norm...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted February 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 SO you think Goddard deserves some playing time? at whos expense? Do you think he could guard Chet Mason in man to man defense? Goddard is nothing more than a tiny little role player on this team. We would have to be playing a team that was using a zone defense on us and we would have to be in a zone ourselves. He might be able to match up defensively with a few other guards, but anyone with some quickness would blow right bye. Bubba couldn't guard Mason last night and he seems quicker and has a bigger wing span. This is a defense oriented team and coach. If you don't play D or turn the ball over you won't play. Ask DP!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zff Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Mr Guest...... I never said that is was one big happy family...... But when you or another guest come on here and just puts some words on the board with out any real evidence than that is a rumor......If you don't believe me check out your nearest Webster!!!!!! And like I said if some body wants to leave than I say don't let the door hit you in the Butt!!!!! Just cause a guy can hit a three point shot from any where almost anytime does not mean they show me getting major PT.......Just look a 00 from last year......He could shot but did not play D......Now compare this year to last year.........Damn ZFF you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 How do you know what Goddard can do? He never plays, so you don't see him unless you go to practice, anyway this isn't about Goddard its about generally does scholarship play above walkon, and if so, as a walkon, you shouldn't expect playing time at all.... I think the grumblings that the freshman are doing is normal... they were probably stars on their team in high school and then go to college and expect the same..... you guys say fresh and soph usually don't see playing time, then akron is different, from what I see Rom and Dru as freshman played all the time, and Bubba and Ced are also playing alot... the only not playing much is Quade..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Hey Hilltopper started this thread, we are just going with it, whats a board without a little controversy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 This thread kind of morphed into a fairly negative one...certainly not fitting of a ZipsNation post-game thread after such a huge, hard-fought win. This thread will be destroyed in T minus 1 hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Pouch Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 How do you know what Goddard can do? He never plays, so you don't see him unless you go to practice, ....... Isn't this exactly the point to all those in Wadsworth.... It's a coaches decision after watching hours of practice, tape, and some playing time. They should know and be able to evaluate a player's capabilities. They obviously believe that Bubba is a better overall player, defender, and has much more potential as he matures. He proved that, somehow, somewhere. I happen to be one that believes they are 100% correct on this one. The Goddard issue has been beaten to death areound here. Does he potentially have a role on this team -- YES. Will things change if he proves himself -- YES. But right now, he has not earned the time with those who are evaluating much more then any of us. Give it a break - From what I've seen - KD and staff know exactly what they are doing. I'd rather focus the board on better discussions and information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Didn't we just say this wasn't about Goddard, stop it! Let's move on... shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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