nbs95 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 I see Swiech got into the game. Yes Virginia there is a Santa Claus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 This is truly embarrassing. Losing by 29 to ANY team is unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipAlumn Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 You can't coach shooting. I thought that guys like Hitchens (28.5%) and McNeese (25.0%) were shooters that were tops in high school. Linhart (30.0% and Roberts (30.0%) weren't much help either, and French said that there was a lot of "good looks" out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Sad to say; I was one of the "six" Zips fans in attendance.We laid an egg. It was a team sponsered beat down from the start. I am surprised that we onlyhad sixteen turnovers. It sure seemed like fifty. The kids have not yet grasped that this is a teamsport. URI ran a full court press on EVERY in bound the entire game.When you do not rotate to help bad things (like turnovers) happen. And, they did, often. We nevercountered with a press of our own. An old rule in basketball is that when a team presses you; youpress them. We never did.Ball rotation was fair. Ball handling was awful. I think the kids felt a bit intimidated by their size,the venue, and the officials. Yep, they had their hand in it, too.Simply, bad basketball. We did so many things wrong its hard to spell them all out. We lookedand played like a tank team.The one thing that really frosted me was coach Baron of URI. His kid squeaked out just six pointsin the first thirty-seven minutes. When Dambrot cleared the bench we were down about twenty.Then the younger Baron had a green light to throw up trey after trey much to the delight of thecrowd. I just hope Coach D returns the favor next year when URI is green as grass as our kidsare. I look forward to it.Five URI kids (probably students) sat right behind the Akron bench and taunted the entire game.They were warned for profanity once. But, I had to laugh all game long as they reminded me of the AK-Rowdies. No one, and I mean no one on the Akron bench ever gave them a look.I would write more, but, my heart still aches and my blood pressure is still sky high.Finally, the Rhody student (?) who wanted to take me on for not "respecting" his team after thegame (it seems that yelling "no class", at coach Baron which he heard and reacted to; is not allowed). Here is a tip. I may be sixty-five and over weight, BUT those years of marshall artstraining had me in an excellent position to insure that you never father any children. Do not get in a stranger's grill if you have any desire to keep your nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 We nevercountered with a press of our own. An old rule in basketball is that when a team presses you; youpress them. We never did.GoZips,This sounds like it is more of a coaching error and should maybe rest on KD's shoulders moreso than the inexperience of our current roster? Why don't you think KD wanted to respond w/ a press of our own? With Rhody's size could they simply throw over top of a press?And what did you mean by we played like a "tank" team?Also, how did you like Rhody's arena? It looks great from online pictures. Is that the size of b-ball facility Akron could use? Or would you shoot for something a bit larger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Sad to say; I was one of the "six" Zips fans in attendance.We laid an egg. It was a team sponsered beat down from the start. I am surprised that we onlyhad sixteen turnovers. It sure seemed like fifty. The kids have not yet grasped that this is a teamsport. URI ran a full court press on EVERY in bound the entire game.When you do not rotate to help bad things (like turnovers) happen. And, they did, often. We nevercountered with a press of our own. An old rule in basketball is that when a team presses you; youpress them. We never did.Ball rotation was fair. Ball handling was awful. I think the kids felt a bit intimidated by their size,the venue, and the officials. Yep, they had their hand in it, too.Simply, bad basketball. We did so many things wrong its hard to spell them all out. We lookedand played like a tank team.The one thing that really frosted me was coach Baron of URI. His kid squeaked out just six pointsin the first thirty-seven minutes. When Dambrot cleared the bench we were down about twenty.Then the younger Baron had a green light to throw up trey after trey much to the delight of thecrowd. I just hope Coach D returns the favor next year when URI is green as grass as our kidsare. I look forward to it.Five URI kids (probably students) sat right behind the Akron bench and taunted the entire game.They were warned for profanity once. But, I had to laugh all game long as they reminded me of the AK-Rowdies. No one, and I mean no one on the Akron bench ever gave them a look.I would write more, but, my heart still aches and my blood pressure is still sky high.Finally, the Rhody student (?) who wanted to take me on for not "respecting" his team after thegame (it seems that yelling "no class", at coach Baron which he heard and reacted to; is not allowed). Here is a tip. I may be sixty-five and over weight, BUT those years of marshall artstraining had me in an excellent position to insure that you never father any children. Do not get in a stranger's grill if you have any desire to keep your nuts.URI fan here. Despite the outcome of yesterday's contest, I do believe that Akron has a very good basketball team. The Zips just had a bad game against a team that it did not match -up well against. On another day or venue, this game would have been much closer, although I believe URI's athleticism and height would make them prevail more often than not. You have speedy guards who had an off day shooting and while Rhody put on some good defense, the truth is Akron had good looks at the basket all game.I must, however, reply to GoZips comments on Baron. I understand that you are a loyal Akron fan and was upset with the development of that game. I understand your need for catharsis, but to call out Coach Baron as having no class was both disrespectful and not true. URI has gotten a reputation lately for blowing big leads late in game. In the A-10, only recently we saw St. Joe's lose an 18 point lead in the second half in a home loss to Siena. Akron was behind by 17 points at the 6 + minute mark when Baron hit his 3 pointer. That Baron hit two other 3 pointers later was not an example of piling on, but the frustration of Jimmy finally getting free to take such shots. Akron's defense of Jimmy was that good. Finally, when you make a comment, you have to make sure your house is not made of glass. Because both Roberts and Hitchens put up three pointers late in the game with a lead of 17 points in your blowout game against UNC-Greensboro. Similar things happened in Akron's 44 point margin romp over Fairleigh Dickinson. It's one thing for students to taunt the opposing team. They're just young vigorous people lacking life's experiences. It's quite another thing for a 65 year old person to yell out a disrespectful and untrue taunt.We follow all our opponents quite closely both before and after we play them. URI wants to get to the post season and our opponents winning games helps us get there. So it is with sincerity that I wish Akron good luck the rest of the season. Hope you win your conference opener versus Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 One other comment. Despite URI 's size, a press may have worked. I was surprised myself that Akron did not respond with that defensive move. URI ball handling can be suspect at times - remember they had 19 turnovers - and an effective press may have rattled the Rams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Oh well, the MAC sucks so let's hope we can suck the least!This cracks me up because I have felt the same way for a few years now.Some of the apologists on the board say we are not allowed to comment if we don't see games, but I will comment anyhow. IMHO, huge losses can only be attributed to two issues:1. The team was unprepared for the game.2. The team lacked the basic athletic talent and bb ability to compete against better athletes.Issue 1 can be a result of a total team collapse from everyone on the team including, yes, the coaching staff. Issue 2, you guys do the math.....I hope I didn't hurt the feelings of some of you delicate flowers out there. I hope the rest of you are open minded enough to understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Not the point at which we want to start conference play, but it is what it is.After our entire non-conference schedule, I think there's some things that are still uncertain. But there are also some things I think we know about this team:1) Jimmy C. needs to play a lot of minutes. He's our best defender.....and much to my surprise.....has turned out to be our best rebounder. Which is something we need desperately. Personnel wise, this is just not going to be a strong rebounding team. Which still makes me wonder why Nik and SS are not getting at least some decent minutes. 2) We need Ronnie back. Whether it's fatigue (I'm sure somewhat), or just trying to make too many plays he should not (In my opinion, the biggest problem), or has mental lapses (some of the problem), we need to have someone else besides Humpty play some good minutes at PG who does a good job of taking care of the basketball. Whatever the root cause, he's now had probably his worst game 12 games into the season, which isn't leaving me too optimistic that this is a problem that will correct itself tomorrow. Steve Mc and Darryl do a good job of taking care of the basketball too, but I don't think either of them can really run the offense except in short stretches. Get well soon Ronnie. With our inability to score a lot of points to begin with, we simply won't be able to afford to turn the ball over the way we do when conference play starts. 3) This team has no real post scoring option. KD indicates that maybe Brett is out best option here. Maybe so. He has a big body, and should be able to post up some teams' thinner forwards. I had hoped that Chris Mc would end up being our best option here, but that hasn't materialized. That leaves Bardo, and we know what we can consistently get from him after 2+ years in the program. Can SS and Nik help out a little bit here too as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 it's funny how we lose one game,and all of sudden we have no talent.kd can't coach blah ,blah ,blah..if that's the case how are we 8-5 then.jd has three losing season in a row,and most think he should keep his job.for some reason the b-ball,and f-ball are judged differently.if kd had one losing season fans would want him gone let alone three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbs95 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Not the point at which we want to start conference play, but it is what it is.After our entire non-conference schedule, I think there's some things that are still uncertain. But there are also some things I think we know about this team:1) Jimmy C. needs to play a lot of minutes. He's our best defender.....and much to my surprise.....has turned out to be our best rebounder. Which is something we need desperately. Personnel wise, this is just not going to be a strong rebounding team. Which still makes me wonder why Nik and SS are not getting at least some decent minutes. 2) We need Ronnie back. Whether it's fatigue (I'm sure somewhat), or just trying to make too many plays he should not (In my opinion, the biggest problem), or has mental lapses (some of the problem), we need to have someone else besides Humpty play some good minutes at PG who does a good job of taking care of the basketball. Whatever the root cause, he's now had probably his worst game 12 games into the season, which isn't leaving me too optimistic that this is a problem that will correct itself tomorrow. Steve Mc and Darryl do a good job of taking care of the basketball too, but I don't think either of them can really run the offense except in short stretches. Get well soon Ronnie. With our inability to score a lot of points to begin with, we simply won't be able to afford to turn the ball over the way we do when conference play starts. 3) This team has no real post scoring option. KD indicates that maybe Brett is out best option here. Maybe so. He has a big body, and should be able to post up some teams' thinner forwards. I had hoped that Chris Mc would end up being our best option here, but that hasn't materialized. That leaves Bardo, and we know what we can consistently get from him after 2+ years in the program. Can SS and Nik help out a little bit here too as well?skip-zip I am asking the same question myself about Nik and SS.It seem to me that the zips tire out to soon and lack motivation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigzipguy Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 KD has stated that he is concerned with a lack of low post scoring. Put Brett and Chris in the game together more often, and have Bardo in there with him. The two McKnights have no doubt been playing together for years. Bardo could help set low post screens. As far as Nate is concerned, he can come off the bench for both Chris and Brett , or could play at the 2 position. Yes , I said 2 position. What guard couldn't he post up in the MAC. KD probably should have experimented with this in non-conference play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 The fact of the matter is that if we want to get more low post scoring, KD is going to have to get Swiech and Nik in the games more. We've tried every combination of Brett, Chris, Bardo and Nate imaginable and we still haven't been able to score the ball down low. Swiech and Nik need to be seeing playing time. Neither one of them can redshirt at this point and they at least give us a chance to solve what at the moment is probably the Zips two biggest problems (low post scoring and rebounding). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigzipguy Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Quickzips,You make excellent points. However, I do not beleive there has ever been a combination this year of Bardo and the McKnights in the game together at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbs95 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Quick-Zip I can't help but to agree you with. KD needs to play SS and Nik more simply because what he is doing know just isn't working. Swiech can't red shirt twice. Nik maybe, but again it is to late. KD needs to show his benches depth. for some reason he won't. Will be interesting to see what will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Quickzips,You make excellent points. However, I do not beleive there has ever been a combination this year of Bardo and the McKnights in the game together at the same time.The problem with Bardo is that he has no offensive game. He is to the Zips what Ben Wallace is to the Cavs. You don't have to pay any attention to him on offense. If he somehow scores on you, you'll live with it. Setting screens is not nearly as effective if noone is afraid of you scoring off of them. The problem with the McKnights is that they either A) settle for outside jumpshots or B ) try to do too much with the ball when they should really be passing out of the post. Not to mention C) Chris is still coming off that rib injury. I just can't see a lineup of Bardo, Chris, Brett and any two of our guards being that much more effective at scoring in the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 if kd had one losing season fans would want him gone let alone three.Are you for real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 if kd had one losing season fans would want him gone let alone three.Are you for real?Yeah, I REAAAAAALLLLLYYYYY doubt anyone one here outside of maybe GP1 is going to be calling for KD's head any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 I ran an analysis of the Rhode Island game play-by-play on gozips.com, and found that the Zips outscored URI by 4 points during the 24 minutes that Bardo was on the floor, and were outscored by 33 points during the 16 minutes that Bardo was on the bench. I posted the details on the "C production" thread for further discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 my point was how the f-ball,and b-ball teams are judged differently.we lose one game in b-ball , and some fans are complaining about kd.jd has three losing season in a row,and alott of fans think he deserves another season.you cannot honestly tell me if kd had threee losing sesason in a row everyone on this board would be calling for him to resign.jd has three losing season,and let keep him around.i am nto saying we should get rid of jd.my point is that f-ball and basketball are judged differently.we have double standard for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleacher Bum Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 KD has won 20 or more games the past 3 seasons, took us to the postseason 2 of his 4 years and has never finished worse than tied for 2nd in MAC East. JD snuck into the MAC Championship game, snuck into the Motor City Bowl, and hasn't done much since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 If KD ever "snuck" into the NCAA tourney I would be happier than I've been in 25 years as a Zips basketball fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 my point was how the f-ball,and b-ball teams are judged differently.we lose one game in b-ball , and some fans are complaining about kd.jd has three losing season in a row,and alott of fans think he deserves another season.you cannot honestly tell me if kd had threee losing sesason in a row everyone on this board would be calling for him to resign.jd has three losing season,and let keep him around.i am nto saying we should get rid of jd.my point is that f-ball and basketball are judged differently.we have double standard for some reason.You are correct. There is an absolute love affair with JD. I don't get it, but it is undeniable. At the end of 2008, I can only wish I had a dollar for every fawning fan kissing the guy's butt. You'd think the 3-3-5 was the freaking Steel Curtain for Pete's sake. And Jacquemaine? Can we just stop it with all the "Jacquemaine is God" and "Jacq for Heisman" talk already? Normally I hate to get personal, but one poster in particular...Lee Adams...is such a freaking shill for JD it makes me wanna puke. Marry the guy if you love him so much!!! And further more, I'm sick of everyone gushing over JD's recruiting record. Especially when is comes to a few classes ago. Can people on this board be anymore in the guy's hip pocket?? I say NO!!! JD gets more unconditional love from ZipsNation than...than...George Bush gets from Iraqi journalist's shoes. And with KD...you are 110% correct. The guy gets Z-E-R-O love on this board. I'm astounded, but the vast majority of ZipsNation participants are already plotting to put For Sale signs in the guy's lawn!! For shame, ZipsNation!! I recall one post in particular where some raving lunatic actually...get this...suggested that Gary Waters might be a solid mid-major coach. HOW MUCH MORE OF AN AFFRONT TO KD CAN THERE BE???!!! Damn...work is getting in the way of my sarcasm. Gotta go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 AMEN Captain...I'll take a basketball berth in the NCAA tournament any way I can get it !!! I was freaking 22 years old the last time it happened, so I am getting old....and tired....and impatient. I still have to laugh when someone gives little credit to JD for our MAC football title. First of all, its the ONLY football or basketball title we have in our 15 years of MAC affiliation. And, a major reason for it was JD bringing Getsy and Biggs on board, and turning Hixon into a receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Maybe if you guys pool your money you can get Blagojevich to appoint the Zips as champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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