Temple football

[Dr Z]

Neither Mid-American Conference officials nor Temple officials would comment yesterday on a story in Sunday's Raleigh News & Observer that said the Owls have accepted an invitation to play football in the conference. According to the report, North Carolina State athletic director Lee Fowler said MAC commissioner Rich Chryst had confirmed that the Owls accepted the invitation, effective in 2006. Temple was kicked out of the Big East after last season and is playing an independent schedule this year. Sources have said a deal between the Owls and the MAC is all but finalized. MAC spokesman Gary Richter has repeatedly said that no decision on expansion would be made public until after the MAC presidents meet again in early June

[zipboy]

This is the most idiotic thing that the league could do. Is it just me? I don't see any sense in all in doing this other than every other team getting an automatic victory.

[Captain Kangaroo]

This is the most idiotic thing that the league could do. Is it just me? I don't see any sense in all in doing this other than every other team getting an automatic victory.

Unless Temple is playing basketball at the JAR every other year, I don't like it either. It's like picking up a fat chick when you're stone sober.

[Zip N' Dots]

I agree! Temple is worthless to bring into the conference unless they are bringing all there sports, preferably basketball. Basketball is the only sport that Temple will be able to compete at.

Would we also need to add another program as well? Wouldn't bringing Temple in make the conference have an odd number of teams?

[InTheZone]

I agree! Temple is worthless to bring into the conference unless they are bringing all there sports, preferably basketball. Basketball is the only sport that Temple will be able to compete at.

Would we also need to add another program as well? Wouldn't bringing Temple in make the conference have an odd number of teams?

Rumors also have Navy joining the conference.

[Ryno aka Menace]

Unless Temple is playing basketball at the JAR every other year, I don't like it either. It's like picking up a fat chick when you're stone sober.

Hahahahahaahaha!!! LMAO This is totally true!

This picture expresses my feelings on the situation.....

[GP1]

Bringing Temple into the league makes no sense for either Temple or the MAC. Temple would be an eastern school playing in a mid west conference. It didn't work for Penn State and it certaily will not work for Temple.

I also can not think of a single benefit for the league by bringing in Temple. Navy would be a different story. Typically, the military schools draw nice crowds to games. It could work out well for the MAC and Navy. Navy recruits nationally, so playing in a mid west conference will not negatively impact their recruiting.

But then again, I like our chances in the MAC East with Navy and Temple. Think about it: Akron, Temple, Navy, Buffalo, Can't State, Ohio and throw in either Miami or BG and our chances look good.

Have a good weekend everyone.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Navy will never join the MAC. They are guaranteed a bowl game with 6 wins and can schedule whomever they want every year. They have no need for the MAC.

The only possible new MAC members are Temple, Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee (outside shot).

[Zipsrifle]

Answer this for me. Why is MTSU an outside shot? Location? Hell we took UCF. I know nothing about their (MTSU) BB team. But if Temple is going to join as football only, wouldn’t you want an all sports member with a better football team? Temple as all sports or not at all. Though it would help us out as far as our football record, I don’t think the MAC needs more crappy teams.

[zip37]

Just like the M A C , prositute themselves for a "name" team, i.e. Kentucky in

soccer, UCF for football, all or nothing gang, NO TEMPLE.

With ball ammunition, lock and load.

[zipboy]

West KY makes a lot of sense. Very solid basketball program. Not much support for football yet, but I like them. If we get W KY, MTSU makes sense for a natural rivalry. Mid Tenn is no worse in terms of support for football than 4-5 schools in the league. Temple can't even outdraw Can't. When they came to Akron in the past they brought about 25 people. It would be a slap in the face for the league to take them. Kicked out of the Big East so they "drop" a level to the MAC. The MAC is about as good as the Big East now and this would be a huge blow to national perception. Makes no sense at all.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Answer this for me. Why is MTSU an outside shot?

I think they're an outside shot only because all the news "leaks" thusfar involve Temple and WKy. I'd rather have MTSU because their football is already D1. However, Chryst wants to strengthen the league basketball-wise. WKy hoops is much better than MTSU, as is Temple.

I have to believe Temple will be "all sports," not just football.

[Zipsrifle]

PD says it's a done deal.

Temple to MAC

[InTheZone]

Navy will never join the MAC. They are guaranteed a bowl game with 6 wins and can schedule whomever they want every year. They have no need for the MAC.

The only possible new MAC members are Temple, Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee (outside shot).

I don't think that's entirely true. The same could've been said for Army, and yet they went ahead and joined Conference USA. Why? Because there's a lot more money being in a conference, whether you're going to bowl games or not. Remember, any revenues a team within a conference makes from a Bowl game after they've taken care of their travel expenses doesn't go directly to them, it goes to the conference, who splits the money up amongst all the members. CUSA was attractive to Army because they had 5 bowl bids and a lot of money flowing through the conference. The MAC wouldn't have been that attractive up until now, whereas the MAC has 3 bowl bids and will probably have 4 or 5 by the end of next year.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Navy will never join the MAC. They are guaranteed a bowl game with 6 wins and can schedule whomever they want every year.  They have no need for the MAC. 

The only possible new MAC members are Temple, Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee (outside shot).

I don't think that's entirely true. The same could've been said for Army, and yet they went ahead and joined Conference USA. Why? Because there's a lot more money being in a conference, whether you're going to bowl games or not. Remember, any revenues a team within a conference makes from a Bowl game after they've taken care of their travel expenses doesn't go directly to them, it goes to the conference, who splits the money up amongst all the members. CUSA was attractive to Army because they had 5 bowl bids and a lot of money flowing through the conference. The MAC wouldn't have been that attractive up until now, whereas the MAC has 3 bowl bids and will probably have 4 or 5 by the end of next year.

Army dropped out of CUSA two years ago. They're Independent.

I'd love Navy and Army in the MAC, but it ain't gonna happen. The service academies and Notre Dame are the only institututions where Independent makes sense. Army wouldn't have dropped CUSA if being in a conference was their best choice. They get 6 wins, the Bowls will take them. Solid national following. And, the get to keep any and all bowl money.

[Dr Z]

Posted on Mon, May. 16, 2005

Owls' football team joining Mid-American Conference

By Kevin Tatum

Inquirer Staff Writer

Temple has accepted an offer to join the Mid-American Conference for football, according to sources close to the situation.

An announcement will be made this week, the sources said.

Temple is not expected to become a full member of the MAC until 2007. Until then, the Owls will not be eligible for the conference championship, although they will be eligible for bowl games the next two seasons.

The Owls played football for 13 years in the Big East Conference until the end of last season, when the conference showed them the door.

Though Temple athletic director Bill Bradshaw was not available for comment yesterday, he has made no secret of the university's desire to be a part of the MAC.

The Owls' new league does not have the marquee teams Temple faced while trying to keep up in the Big East; the MAC offers a more level playing field as well as some stiff competition.

Last season, the Owls faced two MAC teams and were defeated, 45-17, at Toledo, and by a staggering 70-16 at home by Bowling Green.

Still, Temple's chances of tasting success are much better in the MAC than they were in the Big East.

On its original 2005 schedule, Temple was to play Toledo and Miami (Ohio) at home, and visit Bowling Green. All three are MAC teams.

Some expected changes have yet to become official.

The Owls are looking to add a fourth MAC opponent, Western Michigan, in place of Middle Tennessee State on Sept. 24. And instead of hosting North Carolina State on Sept. 10, Temple could be making a trip to play Wisconsin

[InTheZone]

Navy will never join the MAC. They are guaranteed a bowl game with 6 wins and can schedule whomever they want every year.  They have no need for the MAC. 

The only possible new MAC members are Temple, Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee (outside shot).

I don't think that's entirely true. The same could've been said for Army, and yet they went ahead and joined Conference USA. Why? Because there's a lot more money being in a conference, whether you're going to bowl games or not. Remember, any revenues a team within a conference makes from a Bowl game after they've taken care of their travel expenses doesn't go directly to them, it goes to the conference, who splits the money up amongst all the members. CUSA was attractive to Army because they had 5 bowl bids and a lot of money flowing through the conference. The MAC wouldn't have been that attractive up until now, whereas the MAC has 3 bowl bids and will probably have 4 or 5 by the end of next year.

Army dropped out of CUSA two years ago. They're Independent.

I'd love Navy and Army in the MAC, but it ain't gonna happen. The service academies and Notre Dame are the only institututions where Independent makes sense. Army wouldn't have dropped CUSA if being in a conference was their best choice. They get 6 wins, the Bowls will take them. Solid national following. And, the get to keep any and all bowl money.

I know Army dropped out of CUSA, but it was more due to the fact that they couldn't compete and there was a lot of pressure from the other schools to leave. With Navy's recent success, a move to a conference would make more sense for them. I'm not saying it's going to happen, in fact I'd put the chances at well below 50%, I'm just saying that the conference has talked to Navy and they have expressed marginal interest. I think Western Kentucky or MTSU would be more likely options, especially considering what WKU brings to the table for basketball.