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Penn State has a long tradition of starting out slowly/sluggishly in games that start at noon. That is another factor why I believe the Zips will score first. (But my primary reason is b/c of the Zips passing game -- you guys will get it done until the PSU front seven wears down your O-line.)Are we there yet?!?!?!?!?!SeeTeeZip: Major props to your fans for keeping this dialogue civil. Hope you guys will support us in November against the school-who-cannot-be-named-on-this-board.
Most here will support you.. :( However, I am not one of them. :D
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Penn State has a long tradition of starting out slowly/sluggishly in games that start at noon. That is another factor why I believe the Zips will score first. (But my primary reason is b/c of the Zips passing game -- you guys will get it done until the PSU front seven wears down your O-line.)Are we there yet?!?!?!?!?!SeeTeeZip: Major props to your fans for keeping this dialogue civil. Hope you guys will support us in November against the school-who-cannot-be-named-on-this-board.
Most here will support you.. :( However, I am not one of them. :D
No worries, BuckZip. You are still genteel in your attitude, which is more than I can say for some of your brethren on some of the national CFB boards. Of course, Penn State has its share of homers and gomers, too -- another reason why this place is a welcome relief.I do feel sorry for you, tho, that you will endure twice the pain this year. ;)
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Penn State has a long tradition of starting out slowly/sluggishly in games that start at noon. That is another factor why I believe the Zips will score first. (But my primary reason is b/c of the Zips passing game -- you guys will get it done until the PSU front seven wears down your O-line.)Are we there yet?!?!?!?!?!SeeTeeZip: Major props to your fans for keeping this dialogue civil. Hope you guys will support us in November against the school-who-cannot-be-named-on-this-board.
Most here will support you.. :( However, I am not one of them. :D
No worries, BuckZip. You are still genteel in your attitude, which is more than I can say for some of your brethren on some of the national CFB boards. Of course, Penn State has its share of homers and gomers, too -- another reason why this place is a welcome relief.I do feel sorry for you, tho, that you will endure twice the pain this year. ;)
Touche....BTW, I was a at Happy Valley a few years ago...Not an enjoyable experience to say the least. You are correct though. All fan bases have their fine share...Tell Marshcreek I said Hey... :wave:
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BTW, I was a at Happy Valley a few years ago...Not an enjoyable experience to say the least.That is disappointing/embarrassing. On behalf of all rational Penn State fans (somewhat of a contradiction, I know), I apologize to you. I would like to think that this year's visit for Buckeye fans will be civil (but disappointing -- LOL!).Tell Marshcreek I said Hey... :wave:You got me on that one -- don't understand the reference . . . .

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In games like this, MAC teams need to just stay healthy. I'm sure you want to have key starters available for Indiana.
I remember when this used to be true for Akron 8 or so years ago, I'm glad those days are behind us.
I think Jupitertoo was speaking from personal experience. It's still true for Ohio U. :lol: Than Can't State hopes they can get through Delaware State unscathed.
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You know it. I'm not much of a B-11 fan, but if I were to support a team from that conference, it would be PSU. Maybe it's because JoePa is so old he just doesn't care anymore, but he seems to be the only major coach supporting a playoff system.Thanks, ZippyTuba11! I'm not much of a Big(11)10 fan, either -- grew up watching Penn State compete as an independent and as the "Beast of the East". The "rivalry" with Michigan State feels contrived -- no disrespect to the Spartans -- like taking your second cousin to the prom or something. And, candidly, we are not consistently competing at the level I had hoped for, once we entered the conference.
I'm not that much into the B-11 but my top 2 teams would be 1. Michigan State and 2. Penn State. Didn't know the two were rivals, only knew of the MSU U of M rivalry. The only reason I like MSU is because my girlfriend goes there and the only reason I like PSU is because... the fans that posted on here and I like PSU better than the other teams for whatever reason. Joe Pa is cool to me. I was, like so many others under the stronghold that..the school that must not be named.. has over Ohio. I've never been to that school but I rooted for them during their games and my cousins (huge Columbus State fans but have reasons to be) gave me a Columbus State shirt to wear. Last year, when my gf got me a ticket to see the MSU-Columbus State game I wore the shirt...at MSU. About half way through the first quarter I had an epiphany. I don't go to this school, I'm a Zip. I don't and have never really cared about Columbus State so why the EFF AM I WEARING THIS TEE SHIRT!?!? EFF COLUMBUS STATE GO ZIPS. I haven't worn the shirt since and have been aching to go to Columbus for the first time when the ZIPS play them next season. I can happily say that this change has happened with all of my friends that attend UA with me and we are all now die hard ZIPS fans.P.S. I'm also aching for an MSU UofA game to shut the mouths of some of her friends up there and rub it in a little. I read on here somewhere that someone didn't know if MSU played non BCS teams but I'm pretty sure I remember hearing her friend talk about an EMU or WMU game.
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BTW, I was a at Happy Valley a few years ago...Not an enjoyable experience to say the least.That is disappointing/embarrassing. On behalf of all rational Penn State fans (somewhat of a contradiction, I know), I apologize to you. I would like to think that this year's visit for Buckeye fans will be civil (but disappointing -- LOL!).Tell Marshcreek I said Hey... :wave:You got me on that one -- don't understand the reference . . . .
Thanks, we all have those that sicken us..Marshcreek is a regular PSU poster on another baord that I won't mention here. :rolleyes: He gets a lot of grief but is a really good guy. I assumed you visited the PSU scout board so you would probably know him.
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Buckzip: Were you at the 2006 game? I was at that one, I remember it rained the whole time, it actually was kind of miserable. But I usually have a great time. Honestly if you don't have a tailgate to go to then you will probably have nothing to do before a game in happy valley. Unless you would enjoy checking out the campus, and downtown. PSU fans can be bad sometimes. But I doubt they will say a whole lot to Akron fans. There are only 3 fans bases that I have seen PSU fans treat really badly. Ohio State, Michigan, and Pittsburgh. Although Michigan fans kind of ask for it lol. But I go to the same tailgate for every game and we welcome fans from all teams to come hang with us before the game. Even Akron fans.

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Buckzip: Were you at the 2006 game? I was at that one, I remember it rained the whole time, it actually was kind of miserable. But I usually have a great time. Honestly if you don't have a tailgate to go to then you will probably have nothing to do before a game in happy valley. Unless you would enjoy checking out the campus, and downtown. PSU fans can be bad sometimes. But I doubt they will say a whole lot to Akron fans. There are only 3 fans bases that I have seen PSU fans treat really badly. Ohio State, Michigan, and Pittsburgh. Although Michigan fans kind of ask for it lol. But I go to the same tailgate for every game and we welcome fans from all teams to come hang with us before the game. Even Akron fans.
Ha, The years all run together. It was 06 or 05. I was there the urine bombs. Thankfully I wasn't hit by one.Ahh, the memories... :D
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Here's an interview with Walt Harris about the game.It would be interesting to see the reaction if this gets posted on the PSU forums.
Zach, I found the article to be extremely respectful. Coach Harris showed a lot of class in how he characterized his interaction with JoePa. I will post the link on the PSU football board at CBSSports as soon as I can -- you can check fan reaction there.BTW, one major reason why Penn State wanted a 2 and 1 with Pitt starting in 2001 was Pitt's inability to fill Heinz Field, which is -- what? -- capacity of 56,000 or something like that. Penn State had (I think) just expanded Beaver Stadium again, and our capacity was almost double that of Heinz. As you can imagine, Penn State football supports a lot of other non-revenue sports, so playing at an unfilled Heinz Field was not cost-effective. Shame to kill a rivalry over $$, but that's the way of the world . . . . (FYI: A home game for Penn State garners almost $4M in revenue.)And, last I heard, Pitt was forcing people to buy tix to three games just to get access to one marquee game. That's like a car dealer telling me I HAVE to purchase the 8-track player and cassette deck in order to get Sirius radio. I don't think so . . . . Just a few more days!!!
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And, last I heard, Pitt was forcing people to buy tix to three games just to get access to one marquee game. That's like a car dealer telling me I HAVE to purchase the 8-track player and cassette deck in order to get Sirius radio. I don't think so . . . .
:blink: id like to hear if thats true... because if it is.. thats pretty bad. If they cant fill Heinz field now, i seriously doubt they would if they are enforcing that policy.
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And, last I heard, Pitt was forcing people to buy tix to three games just to get access to one marquee game. That's like a car dealer telling me I HAVE to purchase the 8-track player and cassette deck in order to get Sirius radio. I don't think so . . . .
:blink: id like to hear if thats true... because if it is.. thats pretty bad. If they cant fill Heinz field now, i seriously doubt they would if they are enforcing that policy.
Man, here are a couple links -- one shows Heinz Field capacity to be 65,050 while the other shows the official 2008 NCAA attendance stats. Pitt ranks 49th with an average home attendance of 49,352. According to my calculator, that is almost 16,000 empty seats.http://www.steelers.com/heinzfield/stadiuminfo/http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/stats/footb...ndance/2008.pdf(Gratuitous bragging: Note that Penn State was second in 2008 attendance, with an average crowd of 108,254. As noted elsewhere on this site, they count band, cheerleaders, etc. but that is still a large crowd.)Will try to further research the point about the 3-fer sale. Maybe it's an urban legend. I think I heard it in connection with the Pitt-West Virginia game, so will check with the 'Eers fans.
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Here's an interview with Walt Harris about the game.It would be interesting to see the reaction if this gets posted on the PSU forums.
Zach, I found the article to be extremely respectful. Coach Harris showed a lot of class in how he characterized his interaction with JoePa. I will post the link on the PSU football board at CBSSports as soon as I can -- you can check fan reaction there.BTW, one major reason why Penn State wanted a 2 and 1 with Pitt starting in 2001 was Pitt's inability to fill Heinz Field, which is -- what? -- capacity of 56,000 or something like that. Penn State had (I think) just expanded Beaver Stadium again, and our capacity was almost double that of Heinz. As you can imagine, Penn State football supports a lot of other non-revenue sports, so playing at an unfilled Heinz Field was not cost-effective. Shame to kill a rivalry over $$, but that's the way of the world . . . . (FYI: A home game for Penn State garners almost $4M in revenue.)And, last I heard, Pitt was forcing people to buy tix to three games just to get access to one marquee game. That's like a car dealer telling me I HAVE to purchase the 8-track player and cassette deck in order to get Sirius radio. I don't think so . . . . Just a few more days!!!
You're out of your mind if you think Heinz Field wouldn't sell out for a Pitt-PSU game. Not only would it be the hottest ticket in town, even if Pitt fans didn't sell it out, there would be many PSU fans, a lot who live in Western PA, would would snatch up tickets in no time. The rivalry was killed when Pitt turned down Joe Pa's offer to join the All-East (could be wrong on the conference name) to join the Big East in all sports. He's still bitter to this day about it, and quite frankly, the teams won't meet again until he's done.
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You're out of your mind if you think Heinz Field wouldn't sell out for a Pitt-PSU game. Not only would it be the hottest ticket in town, even if Pitt fans didn't sell it out, there would be many PSU fans, a lot who live in Western PA, would would snatch up tickets in no time. The rivalry was killed when Pitt turned down Joe Pa's offer to join the All-East (could be wrong on the conference name) to join the Big East in all sports. He's still bitter to this day about it, and quite frankly, the teams won't meet again until he's done.Zippy, not disagreeing with your point about Heinz Field filling up with State fans for a PSU-Pitt game. I was trying to say that even with a filled Heinz Field, Penn State would get a share of "only" 65,000 (as my research indicates) seats rather than the 108,000 tix Beaver Stadium represents. I was also trying to point out that Pitt usually has difficulty filling Heinz, as my subsequent post showed (65,050 capacity vs. 49,300 in attendance). A deterrent may be the rumor about the 3-for-1 mandatory tix purchase.And while I disagree somewhat with your characterization that PSU-Pitt don't play b/c of Joe's "bitterness", I would hazard a guess that a post-Joe meeting btwn PSU-Pitt is not guaranteed. OPINION ALERT: I don't think the Pitt program is all that strong, and, nostalgic fans such as I aside, if we were to add Pitt there are many who would continue to criticize our "soft" schedule. And while 2010 recruiting may be anomaly, it appears Penn State is able to recruit quite well in Pitt's backyard, without the two schools facing each other on the field.Sorry for any confusion. Unfortunately, I am letting work interfere with my posting. Sigh . . . .

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Penn State vs Pitt once again...well sort of...Harris' team this time around doesn't stand much of a chance against the No. 8 Lions, who are favored by 27 points. Still, it would be foolish for PSU to underestimate Harris and the Zips, who almost certainly will be trying to take advantage of the Lions' inexperienced secondary.
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Penn State vs Pitt once again...well sort of...Harris' team this time around doesn't stand much of a chance against the No. 8 Lions, who are favored by 27 points. Still, it would be foolish for PSU to underestimate Harris and the Zips, who almost certainly will be trying to take advantage of the Lions' inexperienced secondary.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a succinct summary of my many boring, lengthy posts on this site.P.S. I see Rowdy is confusing his sports again. Rowdy, the golf thread is on a different forum.
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