Captain Kangaroo Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hoosiers Real Test Will Be vs. Michigan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUAkronG Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 "This week they play at Akron and Akron is an OK team,'' Sagarin said.No wonder we never get any love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I like that article, and agree with it. That is why I feel that no rankings should be posted until week 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hey...I'm OK, your OK, the Zips are OK and using Jeff's current ratings the Zips should win by 1.58 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hey...I'm OK, your OK, the Zips are OK and using Jeff's current ratings the Zips should win by 1.58 points.I hate to break up the group hug, but isn't the spread 1.67 points using his current rankings?Sagarin Rankings 09162009UA's ranking = 65.60IU's Ranking = 66.93Home Field = 3.0065.60 + 3.00 - 66.93 = 1.67I know.....I need to get a life and soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I like that article, and agree with it. That is why I feel that no rankings should be posted until week 6.AMEN! The preseason ranking greatly weigh the system & thus largely predetermine the late-season rankings to the advantage of their traditional favorites. The NCAA is a racket and the BCS is a scam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I'm OK with "OK" until the Zips prove otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I'm OK with "OK" until the Zips prove otherwise.Sounds good to me. We don't know how good Indiana is, and we don't know much about ourselves right now either.I hope this game starts to tell us a lot more.....and I hope it's good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hey...I'm OK, your OK, the Zips are OK and using Jeff's current ratings the Zips should win by 1.58 points.I hate to break up the group hug, but isn't the spread 1.67 points using his current rankings?Sagarin Rankings 09162009UA's ranking = 65.60IU's Ranking = 66.93Home Field = 3.0065.60 + 3.00 - 66.93 = 1.67I know.....I need to get a life and soon.Your link title is a bit misleading. The ratings are as of 9/13/2009 not 9/16/2009. Also I did not round the 2.91 home field advantage to 3.0 as suggested by Jeff. It actually is not critical either way as the Zips will be winning by 14 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hey...I'm OK, your OK, the Zips are OK and using Jeff's current ratings the Zips should win by 1.58 points.I hate to break up the group hug, but isn't the spread 1.67 points using his current rankings?Sagarin Rankings 09162009UA's ranking = 65.60IU's Ranking = 66.93Home Field = 3.0065.60 + 3.00 - 66.93 = 1.67I know.....I need to get a life and soon.Your link title is a bit misleading. The ratings are as of 9/13/2009 not 9/16/2009. Also I did not round the 2.91 home field advantage to 3.0 as suggested by Jeff. It actually is not critical either way as the Zips will be winning by 14 points.You caught me in the old "post date the link" trick. Kudos. And you correctly pointed out a more precise value for home field advantage. I am now better informed. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I'm OK with "OK" until the Zips prove otherwise.Sounds good to me. We don't know how good Indiana is, and we don't know much about ourselves right now either.I hope this game starts to tell us a lot more.....and I hope it's good I just wish we could play Michigan the following week so we could truly gauge our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hey...I'm OK, your OK, the Zips are OK and using Jeff's current ratings the Zips should win by 1.58 points.I hate to break up the group hug, but isn't the spread 1.67 points using his current rankings?Sagarin Rankings 09162009UA's ranking = 65.60IU's Ranking = 66.93Home Field = 3.0065.60 + 3.00 - 66.93 = 1.67I know.....I need to get a life and soon.Your link title is a bit misleading. The ratings are as of 9/13/2009 not 9/16/2009. Also I did not round the 2.91 home field advantage to 3.0 as suggested by Jeff. It actually is not critical either way as the Zips will be winning by 14 points.You caught me in the old "post date the link" trick. Kudos. And you correctly pointed out a more precise value for home field advantage. I am now better informed. Thanks! You are welcome. Now if I can just convince Jeff to stop truncating his rankings and home field advantage to two digits to the right of the decimal point we can really start to get some accurate spreads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hey...I'm OK, your OK, the Zips are OK and using Jeff's current ratings the Zips should win by 1.58 points.I hate to break up the group hug, but isn't the spread 1.67 points using his current rankings?Sagarin Rankings 09162009UA's ranking = 65.60IU's Ranking = 66.93Home Field = 3.0065.60 + 3.00 - 66.93 = 1.67I know.....I need to get a life and soon.Your link title is a bit misleading. The ratings are as of 9/13/2009 not 9/16/2009. Also I did not round the 2.91 home field advantage to 3.0 as suggested by Jeff. It actually is not critical either way as the Zips will be winning by 14 points.You caught me in the old "post date the link" trick. Kudos. And you correctly pointed out a more precise value for home field advantage. I am now better informed. Thanks! You are welcome. Now if I can just convince Jeff to stop truncating his rankings and home field advantage to two digits to the right of the decimal point we can really start to get some accurate spreads.If you read his introduction on his ranking page, you'll notice that he says that the ratings used to determine the point spread and pick winners is the PREDICTOR rating, which is one of the two ratings used to come up with his main rating. The other one is the BCS rating which doesn't account for margin of victory.Using his PREDICTOR rating, you get the following:UA's ranking: 68.15IU's ranking: 63.43HOME FIELD: 2.91(68.15 + 2.91) - 63.43 = 7.63This means that Akron should win by at least a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hey...I'm OK, your OK, the Zips are OK and using Jeff's current ratings the Zips should win by 1.58 points.I hate to break up the group hug, but isn't the spread 1.67 points using his current rankings?Sagarin Rankings 09162009UA's ranking = 65.60IU's Ranking = 66.93Home Field = 3.0065.60 + 3.00 - 66.93 = 1.67I know.....I need to get a life and soon.Your link title is a bit misleading. The ratings are as of 9/13/2009 not 9/16/2009. Also I did not round the 2.91 home field advantage to 3.0 as suggested by Jeff. It actually is not critical either way as the Zips will be winning by 14 points.You caught me in the old "post date the link" trick. Kudos. And you correctly pointed out a more precise value for home field advantage. I am now better informed. Thanks! You are welcome. Now if I can just convince Jeff to stop truncating his rankings and home field advantage to two digits to the right of the decimal point we can really start to get some accurate spreads.If you read his introduction on his ranking page, you'll notice that he says that the ratings used to determine the point spread and pick winners is the PREDICTOR rating, which is one of the two ratings used to come up with his main rating. The other one is the BCS rating which doesn't account for margin of victory.Using his PREDICTOR rating, you get the following:UA's ranking: 68.15IU's ranking: 63.43HOME FIELD: 2.91(68.15 + 2.91) - 63.43 = 7.63This means that Akron should win by at least a TD.Excellent find, ZtZ. You're almost as diligent as UAkronKid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 This thread should be patented as a sure-fire sleep aid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 This thread should be patented as a sure-fire sleep aid! ^^^ must be a liberal arts major Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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