xu9697 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I have not given up hope on 2009, but in reality it is going to be darn difficult to eclipse 6-6. Not exactly what I and many of us hoped for 2009.With that in mind, we need to show continued player growth in 2009 to be ready to strike in 2010. This is obviously made more difficult with the very real likelihood of a coaching change. Be that as it may...QB= Nicely is the now and the future. We know that. We can hope that Rodgers gets healthy and gets better to be a nice back-up. Sorry, I don't see him switching positions.RB= Tuzze should get his carries, but we need to find at least 1 guy that gives us hope for 2010. Torrence is the obvious first name that comes to mind for most of us.WR= Simply, we lose a lot here. Hoping that LaFrance builds on his relationship with Nicely and that another underclassmen steps up (Brown?). Greenwood(RFr) and Schrock could see some major playing time in 2010.OL= We will have 3 guys back in 2010. Nice start, though Anderson73 has really had some rough moments. Honestly, not sure what we have as far as youth here as many of them have not seen the field.Defense= if memory serves, our entire "front 7" that was starting against OU returns in 2010. I expect that Sewell, Wagner, Marcoux, Thomas and a guy like Hoobler (even as a true frosh) will be the backbone of one of the best MAC defenses next year.ST= ugh, what a mess. Hate Tressel if you will, but his and Beamer's teams know this part of the game. Hopefully we get a coach/coaches dedicated to DRASTICALLY improving this third and very critical part of a football team.There is a lot there. When you have a QB you can trust and a defense, you are well on your way. I would love to hear what others have to say, especially in regards to younger OL and DB as those right now seem to be the biggest future unknowns. Well, those and the 2010 Head Coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 We're going to finish the season 6-6 or 7-5. I'm calling it. You worry about the future, but I will remain with the team's mentality. I saw more fight in the players than I have all year. They will make or break this season, not the coaches, and I believe that they will come together and make something good happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xu9697 Posted October 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 We're going to finish the season 6-6 or 7-5. I'm calling it. You worry about the future, but I will remain with the team's mentality. I saw more fight in the players than I have all year. They will make or break this season, not the coaches, and I believe that they will come together and make something good happen.As fans, we can do both. No need for player or coach speak here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 We're going to finish the season 6-6 or 7-5. I'm calling it. You worry about the future, but I will remain with the team's mentality. I saw more fight in the players than I have all year. They will make or break this season, not the coaches, and I believe that they will come together and make something good happen.I too have confidence now in this team. I think having a stable QB that actually has the talent to carry an offense will be a big boost. I'm calling 5-7/6-6 for the finish. I know winning 5 or 6 out of 7 games will be tough but i dont think it will be impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 We're going to finish the season 6-6 or 7-5. I'm calling it. You worry about the future, but I will remain with the team's mentality. I saw more fight in the players than I have all year. They will make or break this season, not the coaches, and I believe that they will come together and make something good happen.UAkid, I'm behooved that you have decided to remain with the team's mentality, but we also need you to help us worry about the future: climate change, inflation, trade deficits and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Buffalo behooved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Z.I.P. Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 We're going to finish the season 6-6 or 7-5. I'm calling it. You worry about the future, but I will remain with the team's mentality. I saw more fight in the players than I have all year. They will make or break this season, not the coaches, and I believe that they will come together and make something good happen.I'm impressed by your faith in the team! Now, if they manage to pull this off, it will go down as one of the greatest comebacks and coaching accomplishments of this, or most any season -- and will lead to a contract extension for JD Brookhart. Did you thing about that before you made your prediction? In all seriousness, however, three wins from this group is as much, or more than I can expect -- but then I predicted 6-6, 7-5 at best before this began, while everyone was researching the possibility of a MAC school in the BCS Championship Game. Keep the faith! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I am surprised that no one mentioned the "hunkered down" mentality that JD is exhibiting.We have seen this flaw several times in the past. Let me remind you of some infamousformer Zips coaches. Do the names Gerry Faust, Lee Owens or Dan Hipsher come to mind?All of them reached a point in their career where surviving was more important than progressing upward, let alone winning. The head coach and his staff are in a defensiveshell that completely inhibits them from being productive. JD's staff has reached the "mustsave my job" mentality. None of them are thinking we play this game to win.Need proof? Nicely rotted under a red shirt since the Spring practice. Everyone connectedwith Zips football from the fan to the AD easily saw that Nicely was clearly the best playeravailable at the QB position. Still, the coaching staff squirrels him away for the future underthe pretense that he "needs seasoning". How the hell would Brookhart know? He is clueless.Need more proof? Shane Montgomery who led the hapless Miami Redhawks through FIVEconsecutive horrendous season is rewarded by JD when Miami finally sacked him.Akron's once highly productive and volatile offense disappeared.There is no zip in the Zips. Do not be surprised if Akron tanks all the remaining games.No, I am not a pessimist. I am a realist. The failure to sack Brookhart immediately afterthe CMU debacle will be part of Wistrcill's demise. A man either has stones or he does not.Wistrcill lacks stones. He is not going to grow a set any time soon. Its easier to kill themessenger.I stand with Mike Razor. The time to sack Brookhart was three weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Need proof? Nicely rotted under a red shirt since the Spring practice. ...I stand with Mike Razor. The time to sack Brookhart was three weeks ago.1.) Nicely was at his senior prom after spring practice. He didn't practice with the Zips until August.2.) There are a lot of D-1 teams having terrible seasons. None has fired their coach. Mid-season firings of head coaches is simply not done in college football. Especially when the three losses (at that time) were to Penn State, Indiana and Central Michigan. And the AD was still unpacking boxes from his move into town 2 weeks earlier. The new AD's handling of the Reno Ferri situation raises concerns with me. His calculated approach to assessing the future of the Zips football program does not.Winstrcill needs to be putting out his "feelers" now. Once the season ends, then he can take action.Are you with Mike on the "Matt Rodgers is God" bandwagon too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Are you with Mike on the "Matt Rodgers is God" bandwagon too?And here I thought I was the only one who noticed that.I think Rasor took the honor part of "Love, honor, and obey" a little too seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 A. I read Razor regularly (can't get his blog at work because the fed govt blocks it!), and while he admitted that JD will be gone next season, I didn't see him call for his head THIS week. B. Everyone raise their hands who thinks the guy who went 9 for 23 for 98 yards and lost badly to a less than mediocre team can now be annointed by the Holy See. St Paddy O'Nicely :bow:Apologies to anyone who's offended by the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Everyone raise their hands who thinks the guy who went 9 for 23 for 98 yards and lost badly to a less than mediocre team can now be annointed When you see him play, you'll "get it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xu9697 Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Everyone raise their hands who thinks the guy who went 9 for 23 for 98 yards and lost badly to a less than mediocre team can now be annointed When you see him play, you'll "get it"Yeah, if you haven't watched him, you are at a disadvantage. I kept an eye on him all last year...dude can play. Saturday just further confirmed that he has that "it" factor that QBs need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xu9697 Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 OK, now I am DEFINITeLY thinking 2010.Loss SUCKED. Should have won.But Nicely, Torrence and Wagner are immense building blocks. It is GOOD that we are "burning" Nicely's redshirt this year. He will be well along come 2010, getting many of the young mistakes out of the way. Finding WRs might be my only fear, but as long as we hold onto recruits through the coaching change, I feel that LaFrance, Brown, Greenwood and Schrock will be 4 of the main 5.Still hoping we find a way to win at least 4 games, but it is about developing now. Coach is past saving his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms133@uakron.edu Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 How come no one is still mentioning the Bizzaro guy at WR? Have people forgotten or has his status changed and I'm unaware of it? I remember reading things saying how he runs a 4.25 and although didn't get thrown to much in high school, he caught everything there and at the Zips camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 OK, now I am DEFINITeLY thinking 2010.Loss SUCKED. Should have won.But Nicely, Torrence and Wagner are immense building blocks. It is GOOD that we are "burning" Nicely's redshirt this year. He will be well along come 2010, getting many of the young mistakes out of the way. Finding WRs might be my only fear, but as long as we hold onto recruits through the coaching change, I feel that LaFrance, Brown, Greenwood and Schrock will be 4 of the main 5.Still hoping we find a way to win at least 4 games, but it is about developing now. Coach is past saving his job.what seems a bit odd is that the coaches didn't want to play Nicely when even with just the little that we have seen of him it seems he has better overall qb skills than rodgers and certainly jacquemain...they already knew what they were getting with jacquemain after three years,he was what he was...if you are a coach on the bubble like this one was/is one would think, play the best talent...prep in summer practice may have made a big difference for Nicely...when you couple that with the lack of playing time torrence got early on you wonder about the decision making...i know they needed to see if alex allen had recovered but they were playing shuford who was not impressive at all...since brookhart went out and got torrence after his legal/personal issues he must have thought he was a talent...play him...hope the players keep playing hard its gotta be tough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 JD didn't play Nicely earlier because he has a bad case of "upper classman-itis". If a player is older, he must be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsfan111 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 If JD perhaps to be let go what will happen to the 8 commits we have for the 10' year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycevs Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Probably depends on when he would be fired, who is brought in and how long the process takes to get someone in there, and what kind of player they want. Hopefully the new guy could see the value of guys on this roster currently and not change it to a system that makes us start everything over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xu9697 Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Probably depends on when he would be fired, who is brought in and how long the process takes to get someone in there, and what kind of player they want. Hopefully the new guy could see the value of guys on this roster currently and not change it to a system that makes us start everything over again."System" stuff is totally overblown, especially as it relates to college football. PERHAPS you can say it about some QBs, but I think Nicely would actually be even more productive in a pro-set/I-formation offense. Yeah, we might have to find a FB or two. But it can be done.We need to bring in a coach that knows how to teach, knows how to coach (on gameday) and knows and how to WIN. Plain & simple. Well, maybe not simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 We need to bring in a coach that knows how to teach, knows how to coach (on gameday) and knows and how to WIN. I am with you 100 percent. Have you ever noticed the team coming out in a second half of a game and changing something up? We consistently get out coached at halftime. Have our players progressed over four years of being with our program that they wouldn't have on their own? I would like to see more coaching and less gimmicks. If we took away all our gimmicks, lined up under center in a pro form offense, played a base 4-3 defense, lined up and punted the ball with hang time, I am confident a COACH can come in and change the win/loss record around (4-8 to 8-4). I just want to win games. The more I watch this years team, the more I understand why Jim Tressel is a successful COACH with his philosophies. (and yes, that pains me to type, but I am desperate) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xu9697 Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 We need to bring in a coach that knows how to teach, knows how to coach (on gameday) and knows and how to WIN. I am with you 100 percent. Have you ever noticed the team coming out in a second half of a game and changing something up? We consistently get out coached at halftime. Have our players progressed over four years of being with our program that they wouldn't have on their own? I would like to see more coaching and less gimmicks. If we took away all our gimmicks, lined up under center in a pro form offense, played a base 4-3 defense, lined up and punted the ball with hang time, I am confident a COACH can come in and change the win/loss record around (4-8 to 8-4). I just want to win games. The more I watch this years team, the more I understand why Jim Tressel is a successful COACH with his philosophies. (and yes, that pains me to type, but I am desperate)Teams that tend to line up and just play the game the "old fashioned way" that immediately come to mind are Wisconsin, Notre Dame, USC, Boston College and to some extents Ohio State (though they mess with the offense sometimes, like this year). Of course, you could say that Navy, Army, Air Force and Georgia Tech REALLY play the "old fashioned way".No matter what style we play on offense or defense, improving special teams MUST be a priority. And that is where Tressel and Beamer really get it right (though each team's special teams strengths are in different areas).I think we have enough capable DL to play a 4-3 (my preferred defense), and we definitely have enough LBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 It was interesting to see the Zips place a DL in the backfield in a "Jumbo Package" inside the Buffalo 5 yard line last week. Alex Allen went into the endzone with ease. That might have been the first "easy" TD we scored against D1 competition all year? Previously, you could expect to get stuffed for no gain in that situation.Bring out the Power-I with Torrence and Tuzze. We will move forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Bring out the Power-I with Torrence and Tuzze. We will move forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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