Sergeant Zip Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Why was he fired? It had better be a great reason if Akron is going to go after a person who was fired from the exact same position for failure to perform.Fired for 47-51 in 8 3/4 seasons. Although they went to bowl games in five of the last six years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Why was he fired? It had better be a great reason if Akron is going to go after a person who was fired from the exact same position for failure to perform.Fired for 47-51 in 8 3/4 seasons. Although they went to bowl games in five of the last six years.I don't think that's the case about five of the last six years. They haven't been to a Bowl game since our meeting in the Motor City Bowl I don't think. He did go to a Bowl game in 3 of his first 4 years however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 One thing that will make us very attractive to anyone is that we now have some of the best if not the best Mid-Major facilities in the country. Who would've ever imagined saying that 7 years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you am i Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Nobody makes a lateral coaching move to go the MAC. Its either someone on the way up, or on the way down. I'd rather take someone on the way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Why was he fired? It had better be a great reason if Akron is going to go after a person who was fired from the exact same position for failure to perform.Fired for 47-51 in 8 3/4 seasons. Although they went to bowl games in five of the last six years.I don't think that's the case about five of the last six years. They haven't been to a Bowl game since our meeting in the Motor City Bowl I don't think. He did go to a Bowl game in 3 of his first 4 years however.Since you sparked my curiosity:2003: Tigers end 32-year bowl drought, beating North Texas in the New Orleans Bowl to finish 9-4.2004: Tigers finish 8-4, including a loss to Bowling Green in the GMAC Bowl.2005: Tigers finish 7-5, including a Motor City Bowl victory over Akron. All-American Williams rushes for 233 yards and three touchdowns to win bowl MVP honors.2007: Tigers finish 7-6 and return to postseason with a New Orleans Bowl loss to Florida Atlantic.2008: Tigers finish 6-7, including St. Petersburg Bowl loss to South Florida.Tommy West Timeline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Why was he fired? It had better be a great reason if Akron is going to go after a person who was fired from the exact same position for failure to perform.Fired for 47-51 in 8 3/4 seasons. Although they went to bowl games in five of the last six years.I don't think that's the case about five of the last six years. They haven't been to a Bowl game since our meeting in the Motor City Bowl I don't think. He did go to a Bowl game in 3 of his first 4 years however.Since you sparked my curiosity:2003: Tigers end 32-year bowl drought, beating North Texas in the New Orleans Bowl to finish 9-4.2004: Tigers finish 8-4, including a loss to Bowling Green in the GMAC Bowl.2005: Tigers finish 7-5, including a Motor City Bowl victory over Akron. All-American Williams rushes for 233 yards and three touchdowns to win bowl MVP honors.2007: Tigers finish 7-6 and return to postseason with a New Orleans Bowl loss to Florida Atlantic.2008: Tigers finish 6-7, including St. Petersburg Bowl loss to South Florida.Tommy West TimelineHmm I guess you were right. Still not too impressive though looking at the records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Why was he fired? It had better be a great reason if Akron is going to go after a person who was fired from the exact same position for failure to perform.Fired for 47-51 in 8 3/4 seasons. Although they went to bowl games in five of the last six years.I don't think that's the case about five of the last six years. They haven't been to a Bowl game since our meeting in the Motor City Bowl I don't think. He did go to a Bowl game in 3 of his first 4 years however.Since you sparked my curiosity:2003: Tigers end 32-year bowl drought, beating North Texas in the New Orleans Bowl to finish 9-4.2004: Tigers finish 8-4, including a loss to Bowling Green in the GMAC Bowl.2005: Tigers finish 7-5, including a Motor City Bowl victory over Akron. All-American Williams rushes for 233 yards and three touchdowns to win bowl MVP honors.2007: Tigers finish 7-6 and return to postseason with a New Orleans Bowl loss to Florida Atlantic.2008: Tigers finish 6-7, including St. Petersburg Bowl loss to South Florida.Tommy West TimelineLooks like he's moving backward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 But he's from OSU and that means he should be an instant winner! OSU is always ranked so that means hiring one of their position coaches makes total sense!didn't lee owens come from osu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Who the hell's Luck Fickell?Looks like a spelling error at Sporting News.Luke Fickell is linebacker coach and assistant defensive coordinator at Columbus State. There was an interesting PD story about him earlier this year.PD LinkFickell played under Cooper at OSU. Never the biggest or fastest but always in on the plays. I like him. Coached akrons d-line 2000-01And about Wagner and Nicely leaving... I don't know how someone has a better source than me. When I asked, the kid laughed and said no way. We do not need to start fear mongering.these kids will wait to see who the new coach is before making a commitment...nicely could go to a better program right now if he chooses...wagner is a different player...might not be a linebacker in a conventional 4-3 or even 3-4...he had a real problem covering the emu tight end...lets wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Who the hell's Luck Fickell?Looks like a spelling error at Sporting News.Luke Fickell is linebacker coach and assistant defensive coordinator at Columbus State. There was an interesting PD story about him earlier this year.PD LinkFickell played under Cooper at OSU. Never the biggest or fastest but always in on the plays. I like him. Coached akrons d-line 2000-01And about Wagner and Nicely leaving... I don't know how someone has a better source than me. When I asked, the kid laughed and said no way. We do not need to start fear mongering.these kids will wait to see who the new coach is before making a commitment...nicely could go to a better program right now if he chooses...wagner is a different player...might not be a linebacker in a conventional 4-3 or even 3-4...he had a real problem covering the emu tight end...lets wait...Unless the head coach hire has two heads Nicely would be crazy to leave UA. The fans love the kid, he's got a year in the program now, he knows his way around and he's the king of the heap here. Why would a kid leave that situation to go into The Great Unknown? You leave the program, you are thrown right back into the meat grinder at another program where now you're the new kid with much to prove. It makes no sense to think that Nicely will be going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Ryan Mallett did. If the system doesn't fit his style, why would he stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipsrifle Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 I would imagine that either Rogers or Nicely will split. Rodgers is banged up, but was the starter at one point so I imagine he won't want to take a back seat to a younger player. It may be a bit of a waiting game for these players to see how the new coaching staff reacts and what the other player does. Oh, that reminds me, I hope the new coach can bring in players who stay long enough for us to learn their names....we seemed to have a high turnover with JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldZipFan Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Chuck Martin the Head Coach from Grand Valley State would be my choice.In six years, his team has won 2 National Championships, four GLIAC Conferance titles. Grand Valley State has a current 40 game winning streak.His record in six years is 61-5 (.924). He has a 13-3 playoff record. He is the winningest active DII Head Coach in the country.He also succeded Brian Kelley as the Head Coach. Last year many MAC schools were after his service, but he refused all of them, because they were not offering him enough money. His salary is $150,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Just some another name to throw out there:Shawn Watson, Offensive Coordinator, Nebraska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Who the hell's Luck Fickell?Looks like a spelling error at Sporting News.Luke Fickell is linebacker coach and assistant defensive coordinator at Columbus State. There was an interesting PD story about him earlier this year.PD LinkIf his name really was Luck, I'd take him, we could use a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Why was he fired? It had better be a great reason if Akron is going to go after a person who was fired from the exact same position for failure to perform.Fired for 47-51 in 8 3/4 seasons. Although they went to bowl games in five of the last six years.I don't think that's the case about five of the last six years. They haven't been to a Bowl game since our meeting in the Motor City Bowl I don't think. He did go to a Bowl game in 3 of his first 4 years however.Since you sparked my curiosity:2003: Tigers end 32-year bowl drought, beating North Texas in the New Orleans Bowl to finish 9-4.2004: Tigers finish 8-4, including a loss to Bowling Green in the GMAC Bowl.2005: Tigers finish 7-5, including a Motor City Bowl victory over Akron. All-American Williams rushes for 233 yards and three touchdowns to win bowl MVP honors.2007: Tigers finish 7-6 and return to postseason with a New Orleans Bowl loss to Florida Atlantic.2008: Tigers finish 6-7, including St. Petersburg Bowl loss to South Florida.Tommy West TimelineLooks like he's moving backward.I hear what you guys are saying and its just a name I thought I'd throw out there since he is the kind of guy that looks like he'd turn down bigger offers if he's happy where he is. That's the kind of guy I want. I do wonder though how easy it is to recruit to Memphis in Conference USA, not sure when looking at facilities if Akron might be an easier place to recruit to. I think most would tell you West is a good coach that always seems to have lesser caliber players than the opponents he was facing. The question to me then would be is he not good enough at recruiting or does he need to be at a school that will be more impressive to potential recruits?Anybody know the status of the head coach at the University of New Hampshire? If we go the FCS head coach route that might be an excellent choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eguins Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Hmmm turns out LetsGoGuins was right. Brookhart was soon to be fired.Again explain to me how that was an 'unclassy' move again my friend.Should be interesting to see who Akron hires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Hmmm turns out LetsGoGuins was right. Brookhart was soon to be fired.Again explain to me how that was an 'unclassy' move again my friend.Should be interesting to see who Akron hires.Didn't say he was wrong, said it wasn't particularly classy move to write about a potential new coach from another program who had yet to be fired and then write (soon to be fired) next to his name. We all knew he was a goner too, but wouldn't put someones name as a replacement until the official announcement was actually made. Got it? A little decorum would have called for waiting at least until the announcement was made. Not too classy. Or should I have gone with the classic "Keep it classy Youngstown"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you am i Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Hmmm turns out LetsGoGuins was right. Brookhart was soon to be fired.Again explain to me how that was an 'unclassy' move again my friend.Should be interesting to see who Akron hires.Didn't say he was wrong, said it wasn't particularly classy move to write about a potential new coach from another program who had yet to be fired and then write (soon to be fired) next to his name. We all knew he was a goner too, but wouldn't put someones name as a replacement until the official announcement was actually made. Got it? A little decorum would have called for waiting at least until the announcement was made. Not too classy. Or should I have gone with the classic "Keep it classy Youngstown"!Hasn't this thread been throwing out replacement names for almost two weeks before it was official? Why so sensitive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Hmmm turns out LetsGoGuins was right. Brookhart was soon to be fired.Again explain to me how that was an 'unclassy' move again my friend.Should be interesting to see who Akron hires.Didn't say he was wrong, said it wasn't particularly classy move to write about a potential new coach from another program who had yet to be fired and then write (soon to be fired) next to his name. We all knew he was a goner too, but wouldn't put someones name as a replacement until the official announcement was actually made. Got it? A little decorum would have called for waiting at least until the announcement was made. Not too classy. Or should I have gone with the classic "Keep it classy Youngstown"!Hasn't this thread been throwing out replacement names for almost two weeks before it was official? Why so sensitive?We didn't have Steve Kragthorpe or Al Groh on our list. That was my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 With Snyder now out at Marshall, and Mangino in possible hot water at Kansas, this is looking to be a season of relatively high head coaching turnover. BTW IF Mangino gets fired, I think he'd make an interesting candidate. He's from New Castle, PA originally and his 50-48 career record at KU is pretty good for a "hoops" school IMHO. I'm not sure we could afford him, but maybe he'd look at us as a great chance to redefine his legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akron1 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Sources tell FootballCoachScoop that Athletic Director Tom Wistrcill is very interested in talking with Luke Fickell (Ohio State Co-Defensive Cooridantor/Linebacker Coach), Ron Vanderlinden (Penn State Linebacker Coach/Former Maryland HC), Scot Loeffler (Florida Quarterbacks Coach), Paul Chryst (Wisconsin Offensive Coordinator), Paul Winters (Wayne State Head Coach), Don Treadwell (Michigan State Offensive Coordinator) and Mark Snyder (Marshall Head Coach). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodthts Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Chuck Martin the Head Coach from Grand Valley State would be my choice.In six years, his team has won 2 National Championships, four GLIAC Conferance titles. Grand Valley State has a current 40 game winning streak.His record in six years is 61-5 (.924). He has a 13-3 playoff record. He is the winningest active DII Head Coach in the country.He also succeded Brian Kelley as the Head Coach. Last year many MAC schools were after his service, but he refused all of them, because they were not offering him enough money. His salary is $150,000.X2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Sources tell FootballCoachScoop that Athletic Director Tom Wistrcill is very interested in talking with Luke Fickell (Ohio State Co-Defensive Cooridantor/Linebacker Coach), Ron Vanderlinden (Penn State Linebacker Coach/Former Maryland HC), Scot Loeffler (Florida Quarterbacks Coach), Paul Chryst (Wisconsin Offensive Coordinator), Paul Winters (Wayne State Head Coach), Don Treadwell (Michigan State Offensive Coordinator) and Mark Snyder (Marshall Head Coach).Didn't Mark Snyder just get fired for sucking at Marshall? Does anybody really want to hire a coach that was fired for losing too many games? I don't want this job to be a reward for one of Wistrcill's buddies like Wisconsin OC Paul Chryst. In fact, I don't want any coordinator, let alone a position coach. How can a position coach possibly be prepared to manage an entire team?If we do go that route, I think that Paul Winters will be the first guy we'll call once this next coach gets fired for underperforming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Just some another name to throw out there:Shawn Watson, Offensive Coordinator, Nebraskasomebody on another site suggested Glen Mason...might be a good guess...mr. wistrcill comes from minnesota...he obviously made the decision to dimiss the previous regime weeks ago,he stated he doesn't want a 'rebuilding' process,enough talent is there now...it at least appears he already had some people in mind he thought he could get fairly quickly so that recruiting doesn't take too much of a hit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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