K-Roo Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Chase Hoobler commits to Indiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Chase Hoobler commits to IndianaIs it OK to be a little bitter about this one and hope that he gets buried on their depth chart, when he could have attended UA and seen the field early in his career? I stick to my earlier comments, that if some dopey kid was THAT impressed by a coach who couldn't win a game to save his life, instead of being focused on winning and on the potential here (facilities for training PLUS the new stadium) then maybe, just maybe that kid had their head screwed on wrong.Hoobler, if you read these boards, bad call. Same goes for your coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 That's fine. I hope he starts in Indiana too.He can have a fine career of last-place finishes in the Big Te(leve)n. We knew we'd lose some kids, but I'm sure the combination of Wagner's breakout season and being called a "future All Big-Ten Linebacker" is enough to scare away a 17 year old kid.I'll tell you this much, the Zips had an awful year, but I'll lay down $100 that they win more games over the next 4 years than the Hoosiers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I am really beginning to hate High School coaches around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I am really beginning to hate High School coaches around here.Why? They didn't go 3-9 to cap off 4-consecutive losing seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zff Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Don't forget he also said he could not be pre-med at Akron. I don't blame him one bit. Good luck to him in future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I am really beginning to hate High School coaches around here.These are the same guys that whine if their players aren't offered by UA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 It's a catch-22. If we don't offer, the coaches complain. If we do offer, they tell the players to ignore it and go somewhere else because we're not worthy of their wonderful recruit.The only way you change it is to win. You win by having lots of talent. But you won't get local talent. So the only way to change it is to win using talent from somewhere else.Therefor, we need a coach with strong recruiting ties to places other than NE Ohio. Having a coach come in with NE Ohio ties will accomplish nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornbread Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I dont think it is right to be angry at high school kids over recruiting. They have a lot of pressure on them at a time when they are trying to figure out a lot in the lives.On top of that, they are hormonal. Good luck being a Hoosier you goofball kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I dont think it is right to be angry at high school kids over recruiting. They have a lot of pressure on them at a time when they are trying to figure out a lot in the lives. I agree, good luck to him, and if it doesn't work out, who knows, he might end up back here at some time anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 It's a catch-22. If we don't offer, the coaches complain. If we do offer, they tell the players to ignore it and go somewhere else because we're not worthy of their wonderful recruit.The only way you change it is to win. You win by having lots of talent. But you won't get local talent. So the only way to change it is to win using talent from somewhere else.Therefor, we need a coach with strong recruiting ties to places other than NE Ohio. Having a coach come in with NE Ohio ties will accomplish nothing.Agreed. The coaches need to take care of their athlete, but they also should show some respect to the local school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 It's a catch-22. If we don't offer, the coaches complain. If we do offer, they tell the players to ignore it and go somewhere else because we're not worthy of their wonderful recruit.The only way you change it is to win. You win by having lots of talent. But you won't get local talent. So the only way to change it is to win using talent from somewhere else.Therefor, we need a coach with strong recruiting ties to places other than NE Ohio. Having a coach come in with NE Ohio ties will accomplish nothing.I have to disagree with this. We do need a coach with strong recruiting ties to Ohio. Let me rephrase that.....he needs to have strong roots or has to develop strong roots in Ohio. Lets be honest, this isn't Florida or California. We dont have the girls, the weather or the name to consistently draw top talent from out of state. Plus, we are in a garbage conference. Even if we win on a consistent basis being in the MAC and relying on OOS recruits will make recruiting very cyclical. I am not saying ONLY recruit Ohio, but Ohio should always be our top priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 It's a catch-22. If we don't offer, the coaches complain. If we do offer, they tell the players to ignore it and go somewhere else because we're not worthy of their wonderful recruit.The only way you change it is to win. You win by having lots of talent. But you won't get local talent. So the only way to change it is to win using talent from somewhere else.Therefor, we need a coach with strong recruiting ties to places other than NE Ohio. Having a coach come in with NE Ohio ties will accomplish nothing.I have to disagree with this. We do need a coach with strong recruiting ties to Ohio. Let me rephrase that.....he needs to have strong roots or has to develop strong roots in Ohio. Lets be honest, this isn't Florida or California. We dont have the girls, the weather or the name to consistently draw top talent from out of state. Plus, we are in a garbage conference. Even if we win on a consistent basis being in the MAC and relying on OOS recruits will make recruiting very cyclical. I am not saying ONLY recruit Ohio, but Ohio should always be our top priority.If you plotted a graph of opinions about UA versus distance to campus, you would end up with a bell curve. About 100 miles away from campus would have the highest opinion. The farther away you get from that the less people have even heard of the school. The closer you get the more you get into Ohio.com poster territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornbread Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 If you plotted a graph of opinions about UA versus distance to campus, you would end up with a bell curveDATA HAS BEEN PLOTTED!data.bmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I am really beginning to hate High School coaches around here.The problem with HS coaches is this. A lot of parents look at how many players the coach places in D-1A as a benchmark for how well they are doing their job. This puts coaches in a bad spot. They don't sit enough kids down and tell them and their parents they are not good enough to play D-1A football. Most kids know, the parents are the problem. Instead, coaches let the parental pressure get to them and try to talk college coaches into taking their players. When the coaches see the tape of the player and his lack of talent, they develop a sour opinion of that coach and do not trust what they have to say....that's where the relationship fractures.We don't live in an honest enough society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I have a problem with Hoobler's head coach. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read his quote in the local newspaper noting that some car-salesman/recruiter from Indiana looked at Hoobler walking down the hallway in school and said that they were looking at an All Big Ten linebacker. On a side note, did the coach see stars when he heard that?Now everybody with a brain knows that recruiter would promise Hoobler (or any other recruit) his own daughter if it would help him land the kid, and yet the coach, instead of looking at ALL recruiters with a jaundiced and skeptical eye, seemed wowed by the statement. What a hayseed.On a related note, if I'm a high school football coach in 2009 and beyond, I'm encouraging my kids to go wherever they are most likely to SEE THE FIELD EARLY. In this age of media saturation, it really doesn't matter a whole lot whether you attend Delaware State, UA or OSU. Think about it. If you can play and GAIN EXPOSURE, the NFL will find you and assess you. The scouts will assess you projected to the NFL level. Good players at every level get drafted every year, so why risk being a bench warmer or practice player at a factory when you can actually give yourself a shot at lots of playing time and development? What is attractive to so many recruits, who attend gigantic football programs, about sitting on the sidelines for 2 or 3 or 4 years? The smart ones would go to smaller-time programs and play their asses off. I guess to be fair I actually mean that about every school and player, even the sideliners at Akron. Why not find a level where you can actually get on the field and play?I believe that many many high school coaches and kids' parents are screwing them in that regard because of their own egos and agendas. That means you, Mr. Orrville Head Coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA Fan Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 If he was coming to Akron to enter the accelerated MD program w/NEOUCOM, it was never meant to be (would ncaa rules even allow him to play for us if he was attending a consortium school?) If he wants to play football and go to med school he'll have to get an undergrad sciences degree first, which he can do at a so-called bigger-name school (but Indiana?!) I think he'll miss home and Ohio once he's gone and roo his decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 So you can't get a Biology / Pre-Med degree at UA? Sounds like an excuse to me. I know enough surgeons who were ME undergrads to know that wouldn't be a serious road block for the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornbread Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 So you can't get a Biology / Pre-Med degree at UA? Sounds like an excuse to me. I know enough surgeons who were ME undergrads to know that wouldn't be a serious road block for the kid.$100 that the kid changes majors after a few semesters. And leave high school coaches alone... most don't make much and they are just trying to do the best for their kids. I remember talking to mine about potentially playing somewhere. The process started out well enough... but not many places wanted slow, 5'10" linebackers as additions to their recruiting class. Coaches don't have a much of a vocabulary for telling kids they coached for 4 years to say things like, "They don't want you."1 in 17 HSFootball players play in the one of the 3 NCAA divisions. it has got to be around 1 in 1500 to 2000 kids actually get to play DI. linky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 If he was coming to Akron to enter the accelerated MD program w/NEOUCOM, it was never meant to be (would ncaa rules even allow him to play for us if he was attending a consortium school?) If he wants to play football and go to med school he'll have to get an undergrad sciences degree first, which he can do at a so-called bigger-name school (but Indiana?!) I think he'll miss home and Ohio once he's gone and roo his decision.My roommate played college football and is now a medical doctor. Another from my suite on Brown Street is a doctor. Another is a pharmacist. I have a masters degree. Another suitemate has a masters degree. I know guys who are MBAs, CPAs and lawyers. It can be done and there are plenty of examples. The kid just didn't want to come to UofA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 How did 5 MAC teams get bowl bids without Chase Hoobler on their team? How is it possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 How did 5 MAC teams get bowl bids without Chase Hoobler on their team? How is it possible? how does the moon cross the sky without Chase Hoobler pushing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 How did 5 MAC teams get bowl bids without Chase Hoobler on their team? How is it possible? how does the moon cross the sky without Chase Hoobler pushing it? First off, they all got to play the Zips.... or was that a rhetorical question? My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA Fan Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 I dont think it is right to be angry at high school kids over recruiting. They have a lot of pressure on them at a time when they are trying to figure out a lot in the lives. I agree, good luck to him, and if it doesn't work out, who knows, he might end up back here at some time anyway. Quite possibly. He's playing for a basketball state championship tomorrow, BTW. I think he'll wish he stayed in Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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