The last word on Lee Owens vs. JD Brookhart

[jaycevs]

I don't think any of them had the excitement that Brookhart had, and fumbled away. He is the one that was getting a new stadium that was best in conference, the University was having to find ways to get tickets to students for the first time, had a veteran team that had played well the year before (especially where I saw them rated dead last by the publication I read) for the most part and took a BCS game participant to the wire, and was favored at home against a Big Ten school. He had an opportunity none of them had, and it is all his fault so he should always lose this argument. Its his fault his team could not punt, or kick a field goal, and its his fault that he chose a QB that ruined any chance of a good season, and lost all of the interest that the program had been receiving by the local media. He set the program back when it was supposed to go forward, and now its up to Coach Ianello to clean this up.

[zippy5]

allow me to have the last word. they both sucked. everyone, including me, is wasting their time talking about them. The quicker we can forget about them both, the better.

[Zipmeister]

The "talent" on Faust teams is easily explainable... He had a 17 percent graduation rate.

That 17% was for a single season.

I thought the 17% number seemed strange. I know too many guys who graduated for it to be true.Once again, Faust reigns as the tallest midget. You guys have no idea how strange it is to type those words or even to take the thought serioiusly.Speaking of Faust, did anyone see the absolutely great 30-30 on ESPN about Miami FL football? It's amazing to me Faust actually coached on the same field against J. Johnson. That 30-30 was great in so many ways. Miami really changed college football in many good and bad ways.My favorite part was when the media complained about Miami destroying other teams and they never once complained when Oklahoma, Texas, Notre Dame were beating teams 50-0.

I watched this program and I agree it was excellent. I have always used the U of Miami as the great example of how it is POSSIBLE for a college football program's fortunes to change dramatically over a relatively short time period. Before Howard became the coach, UM was no better (arguably worse) than San Diego State. They came REALLY close to simply dropping football, just like their in-state brothers at the University of Tampa (John Matuszak played there, the Spartans beat K.E.N.T. in the '72 Tangerine Bowl after their only MAC championship) did. While I enjoyed the point you mentioned (the double standard applied to the "urban" school), my favorite part was where it was claimed (hard to know how accurate this is) that the Miami Dolphins' players used to want to "hang" with the Hurricanes because the latter apparently had more "cred" in the local community.

Have you ever been to Coral Gables? The UM campus? If so, you and I have entirely different ideas about what constitutes an urban school.

[zippy_ua_00]

You make yourself look dumber and dumber with every post.

Actually, I think it would be, "you make yourself look MORE AND MORE DUMB with every post." Now who's the dumb one haha. Sorry, I had to do it.

[Zipmeister]

Actually, I believe you should have written "I think it should be ..." rather than "I think it would be..."In either case, the sentence is incomplete as you do not specify why it is important to would (or should). For example, it would improve your sentence to state, "Actually, it would enhance the grammatical correctness of your sentence if it stated, "you make yourself look MORE AND MORE DUMB with every post."or"Actually, to enhance the grammatical correctness of your sentence it should be written as "you make yourself look MORE AND MORE DUMB with every post."

[ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net]

40-50 year old meat head jocks who argue about the glory (or lack thereof) of their teams 20 and 30 years ago must not have spent much time watching the television show "Married...With Children" in the 1990s. If they did they would remember that the show was largely based on the pathetic nature of Al Bundy, the faded former football star who had done nothing since those days except become a shoe salesman.

[johnnyzip84]

40-50 year old meat head jocks who argue about the glory (or lack thereof) of their teams 20 and 30 years ago must not have spent much time watching the television show "Married...With Children" in the 1990s. If they did they would remember that the show was largely based on the pathetic nature of Al Bundy, the faded former football star who had done nothing since those days except become a shoe salesman.

And now for an alternative opinion This Zip football "family feud" has been one of my most entertaining football threads in a while.It's coincidental that you mention Al Bundy, who was of course played by Ed O'Neill. Some of you may realize that he is a Youngstown guy who played football at Ursuline and also later on at YSU. He even had a shot with the Steelers (Link). Since he played for YSU in the 60's, he certainly must have played against some of the Gordon Larson teams. Now we just need a "Dennison" guy and a "Larson" guy to join in "the feud". Link

[GP1]

40-50 year old meat head jocks who argue about the glory (or lack thereof) of their teams 20 and 30 years ago must not have spent much time watching the television show "Married...With Children" in the 1990s. If they did they would remember that the show was largely based on the pathetic nature of Al Bundy, the faded former football star who had done nothing since those days except become a shoe salesman.

My point always is other than winning one MAC Championship in 20 years, there really isn't much glory here. Hell, Bundy's four touchdowns in a single game at Polk HS is probably more impressive than our last 20 year history.Faust, Owens and JD are like the losers in Al's No Ma'am Club hanging out in his garage.