QB Offer

[2zip2]

NEW YORK QB CLOSING IN ON OFFERSpost this:http://nychoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1051055At 6-3, 225 pounds, Rush (NY) Rush quarterback Ashton Broyld sounds like he has the ideal size for a pro-style quarterback, but the Empire State product proved in his junior season that he is much more than that.Ashton Broyld has one offer and is looking for more.He completed 72 percent of his passes in 2009, throwing for 1,400 yards and running for another 900 on his way to third-team all-state honors and the Class AA Player of the Year. Akron has given him an official offer, and it sounds like a few others are close."I've been getting a lot of mail from Syracuse, Rutgers, Pitt and Maryland," Broyld told PantherLair.com. "Michigan, Virginia, Georgia, LSU, Nebraska, and that's about it. Syracuse is close (to offering). I thought Rutgers was close too. I think they are."Pitt also may be a school that is close to offering, and Broyld will be making the trek to Pittsburgh next weekend for the Panthers' Junior Day. "I've talked to them a couple times," Broyld said. "I get a lot of mail from them. I'm going to make it to Pitt on the 21st (of February)."Broyld - who played at John Marshall High School in New York before moving to Rush Henrietta - is hoping a Pitt offer may be in the works. "I wouldn't be surprised one bit (if Pitt offered)," Broyld said. "When I was at (John Marshall), we went to a camp there, and my coach thought they were going to (verbally) offer me on the spot."Now Broyld feels the Panthers are even more interested than they were before."I think what (Pitt) was saying at first was that they were thinking about a different position," Broyld said. "Since they got my film, they started liking me at quarterback. I like Pitt. I really don't know (about an offer). It's a question mark."Broyld also may go to junior days at Syracuse and Rutgers. This is all taking place in the middle of basketball season, where he is averaging a double-double as a point guard and a center."I have a lot of good help, and a good supporting cast," Broyld said of how he manages his time. "People remind me of certain things. I stay focused. It's difficult, but I do it.

[vmd9]

Man looking at that list of schools on rivals, and 4 stars....don't see him coming here. But hey I said the same about Zeke so don't listen to me haha

[Let'sGoZips94]

Man looking at that list of schools on rivals, and 4 stars....don't see him coming here. But hey I said the same about Zeke so don't listen to me haha

I know what you mean lol.

[GoZips]

Right now this kid's ego is clouding his judgement.Often times, the first school to offer has the inside track all the way to the finish line.

[vmd9]

Right now this kid's ego is clouding his judgement.Often times, the first school to offer has the inside track all the way to the finish line.

I'd say if like Michigan gave the first offer we'd see him commit there right away...but this is Akron we are talking about. As much as I love the Zips I just don't know what would make him want to come here, instead of a BCS school...

[ZachTheZip]

Right now this kid's ego is clouding his judgement.Often times, the first school to offer has the inside track all the way to the finish line.

I'd say if like Michigan gave the first offer we'd see him commit there right away...but this is Akron we are talking about. As much as I love the Zips I just don't know what would make him want to come here, instead of a BCS school...

That's why we need to come out of the gate winning. Look at our offers so far. Scout list. 6 offers, and 5 of them have at least three stars, while the one that doesn't will be rocketing up the charts soon. The coaches are shooting high. We're not going after recruits that receive interest from lots of MAC schools. The only way to land them is to beat 2 of the three BCS schools on the schedule this year and to have a winning conference record. Show them that we're at least on the same level or above the BCS bottom feeders, not one of the worst teams in the country.

[MDZip]

Right now this kid's ego is clouding his judgement.Often times, the first school to offer has the inside track all the way to the finish line.

I'd say if like Michigan gave the first offer we'd see him commit there right away...but this is Akron we are talking about. As much as I love the Zips I just don't know what would make him want to come here, instead of a BCS school...

That's why we need to come out of the gate winning. Look at our offers so far. Scout list. 6 offers, and 5 of them have at least three stars, while the one that doesn't will be rocketing up the charts soon. The coaches are shooting high. We're not going after recruits that receive interest from lots of MAC schools. The only way to land them is to beat 2 of the three BCS schools on the schedule this year and to have a winning conference record. Show them that we're at least on the same level or above the BCS bottom feeders, not one of the worst teams in the country.

But we are. But if I'm a recruiter in that situation, and I'm not recruiting a kid who is obviously going to play at a BCS school right away, I'd go with the angle of being able to play as a freshman (and not getting buried with a boatload of other three/four star recruits). We don't have a lot of advantages but that might be one. At least we don't have to do distance drive-bys of the Rubber Bowl any more.

[Jalapeño Zippy]

Right now this kid's ego is clouding his judgement.Often times, the first school to offer has the inside track all the way to the finish line.

I'd say if like Michigan gave the first offer we'd see him commit there right away...but this is Akron we are talking about. As much as I love the Zips I just don't know what would make him want to come here, instead of a BCS school...

That's why we need to come out of the gate winning. Look at our offers so far. Scout list. 6 offers, and 5 of them have at least three stars, while the one that doesn't will be rocketing up the charts soon. The coaches are shooting high. We're not going after recruits that receive interest from lots of MAC schools. The only way to land them is to beat 2 of the three BCS schools on the schedule this year and to have a winning conference record. Show them that we're at least on the same level or above the BCS bottom feeders, not one of the worst teams in the country.

But we are. But if I'm a recruiter in that situation, and I'm not recruiting a kid who is obviously going to play at a BCS school right away, I'd go with the angle of being able to play as a freshman (and not getting buried with a boatload of other three/four star recruits). We don't have a lot of advantages but that might be one. At least we don't have to do distance drive-bys of the Rubber Bowl any more.

Another angle I would use is 'hey look, we want you, they are waiting cause YOU (the recruit) are not as high on their priority list as you are on ours. We want you, they want you if someone else better doesn't come along.'

[ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net]

As the college recruiting game continues to become more accessible to Joe Average Fan, the less interested I am in the whole affair. Obnoxious and entitled jock meat heads, college coaching staffs that must ride a very fine line separating the marginally corrupt behavior from the truly corrosive, huge amounts of money and energy spent worshiping the whole thing. Remember too that most of these entitled jocks are never going to play pro football, but they are going to be living and working with the rest of us, lugging around that sense of entitlement and corruption for the rest of us to deal with. Very little good can come from grown adults telling a 16 year old kid that he is the greatest thing ever. Ridiculous. The more I see of college football the more I'm convinced that the whole thing is a disgusting racket and that schools like Akron who arrive late to the party are never, never, never going to compete at a high level. The entire system is completely stacked against programs like UA's. There is no way to compete at a high level today without already possessing the prestige of the larger programs, and/or running a corrupt program. Would universities like UA really be better off not chasing the ugly dream at all?

[MaxZIP]

That was som really deep stuff stz

[RACER]

the biggest thing stopping a mac school like akron is tv money.the bcs team get almost all of it,and don't want the non bcs schools to get any of it.unless the payout changes non bcs schools will be at big disadvantage.are there exceptions yes.for the most part though it will be hard for any mac schools to land in the top 25 for more than one year.

[zipzippy]

Right now this kid's ego is clouding his judgement.Often times, the first school to offer has the inside track all the way to the finish line.

I'd say if like Michigan gave the first offer we'd see him commit there right away...but this is Akron we are talking about. As much as I love the Zips I just don't know what would make him want to come here, instead of a BCS school...

That's why we need to come out of the gate winning. Look at our offers so far. Scout list. 6 offers, and 5 of them have at least three stars, while the one that doesn't will be rocketing up the charts soon. The coaches are shooting high. We're not going after recruits that receive interest from lots of MAC schools. The only way to land them is to beat 2 of the three BCS schools on the schedule this year and to have a winning conference record. Show them that we're at least on the same level or above the BCS bottom feeders, not one of the worst teams in the country.

But we are. But if I'm a recruiter in that situation, and I'm not recruiting a kid who is obviously going to play at a BCS school right away, I'd go with the angle of being able to play as a freshman (and not getting buried with a boatload of other three/four star recruits). We don't have a lot of advantages but that might be one. At least we don't have to do distance drive-bys of the Rubber Bowl any more.

Another angle I would use is 'hey look, we want you, they are waiting cause YOU (the recruit) are not as high on their priority list as you are on ours. We want you, they want you if someone else better doesn't come along.'

You hit the nail on the head with this one. I remember being recruited I was waiting for bigger offers and one of the mac coaches said exactly this to me it held a lot of water. Also I would take an angle at some of these kids with a few bcs offers that you can come to Akron and play right away be a stand out in the confrence or go to one of these bigger schools and possibly fade away down the roster. Take a guy like Dan Lefevour for example great player great mac player but probably would have never seen the field at many other bcs schools. If your a stand out in the mac your chances of going to the NFL are just as great as they are if your a average player in the big ten.

[g-mann17]

Right now this kid's ego is clouding his judgement.Often times, the first school to offer has the inside track all the way to the finish line.

I'd say if like Michigan gave the first offer we'd see him commit there right away...but this is Akron we are talking about. As much as I love the Zips I just don't know what would make him want to come here, instead of a BCS school...

That's why we need to come out of the gate winning. Look at our offers so far. Scout list. 6 offers, and 5 of them have at least three stars, while the one that doesn't will be rocketing up the charts soon. The coaches are shooting high. We're not going after recruits that receive interest from lots of MAC schools. The only way to land them is to beat 2 of the three BCS schools on the schedule this year and to have a winning conference record. Show them that we're at least on the same level or above the BCS bottom feeders, not one of the worst teams in the country.

But we are. But if I'm a recruiter in that situation, and I'm not recruiting a kid who is obviously going to play at a BCS school right away, I'd go with the angle of being able to play as a freshman (and not getting buried with a boatload of other three/four star recruits). We don't have a lot of advantages but that might be one. At least we don't have to do distance drive-bys of the Rubber Bowl any more.

Another angle I would use is 'hey look, we want you, they are waiting cause YOU (the recruit) are not as high on their priority list as you are on ours. We want you, they want you if someone else better doesn't come along.'

You hit the nail on the head with this one. I remember being recruited I was waiting for bigger offers and one of the mac coaches said exactly this to me it held a lot of water. Also I would take an angle at some of these kids with a few bcs offers that you can come to Akron and play right away be a stand out in the confrence or go to one of these bigger schools and possibly fade away down the roster. Take a guy like Dan Lefevour for example great player great mac player but probably would have never seen the field at many other bcs schools. If your a stand out in the mac your chances of going to the NFL are just as great as they are if your a average player in the big ten.

I've always said that the way I would approach this situation is like this..."Look I'm going to be honest with you. You are BCS talent, you can play at OSU or Florida, and start. If you couldn't I really wouldn't be after you. But here is the thing, you will go, and play, and maybe you'll get to the NFL, maybe you won't. But you know what, you have to win the Heisman at the school or you are just another player that played at that school. You may get your tree, that hardcore Buckeye fans see, you may not, but if you aren't the best that ever played (which you very well are capable of doing.) You just fade away. If you play here, at Akron, you are the foundation, not a brick in the wall. The beauty of being the foundation, even in the worst storm, or earthquake, even after 1000's of years, that foundation is still there, it is still remembered it is proof that something existed. That is why I'm recruiting you, I want legends for Akron, I want a foundation of greatness. I want players that 15, 30 years from now people are comparing the incoming class to you. We have one player like that Jason Taylor. We want you to be the next."

[Z.I.P.]

As the college recruiting game continues to become more accessible to Joe Average Fan, the less interested I am in the whole affair. Obnoxious and entitled jock meat heads, college coaching staffs that must ride a very fine line separating the marginally corrupt behavior from the truly corrosive, huge amounts of money and energy spent worshiping the whole thing. Remember too that most of these entitled jocks are never going to play pro football, but they are going to be living and working with the rest of us, lugging around that sense of entitlement and corruption for the rest of us to deal with. Very little good can come from grown adults telling a 16 year old kid that he is the greatest thing ever. Ridiculous. The more I see of college football the more I'm convinced that the whole thing is a disgusting racket and that schools like Akron who arrive late to the party are never, never, never going to compete at a high level. The entire system is completely stacked against programs like UA's. There is no way to compete at a high level today without already possessing the prestige of the larger programs, and/or running a corrupt program. Would universities like UA really be better off not chasing the ugly dream at all?

SeeTee, I feel more like you every losing season at Akron. That's another reason why our soccer program is rising by leaps and bounds. Next season, you may need a season ticket to get in the gate to see Porter's Prospects.

[Zipgrad01]

As the college recruiting game continues to become more accessible to Joe Average Fan, the less interested I am in the whole affair. Obnoxious and entitled jock meat heads, college coaching staffs that must ride a very fine line separating the marginally corrupt behavior from the truly corrosive, huge amounts of money and energy spent worshiping the whole thing. Remember too that most of these entitled jocks are never going to play pro football, but they are going to be living and working with the rest of us, lugging around that sense of entitlement and corruption for the rest of us to deal with. Very little good can come from grown adults telling a 16 year old kid that he is the greatest thing ever. Ridiculous. The more I see of college football the more I'm convinced that the whole thing is a disgusting racket and that schools like Akron who arrive late to the party are never, never, never going to compete at a high level. The entire system is completely stacked against programs like UA's. There is no way to compete at a high level today without already possessing the prestige of the larger programs, and/or running a corrupt program. Would universities like UA really be better off not chasing the ugly dream at all?

Wow, that sounds like a speech a certain person I see on tv ALL THE TIME would make, but I wont name him. Why dont you try to convince Boise State of this argument? I will agree that the odds are stacked against the small guy taking on the titans, but such is life. The Microsofts and Dell's of the world show that it can happen, but not everyone in college football should or will be a USC or Florida.

[Zip Watcher]

As the college recruiting game continues to become more accessible to Joe Average Fan, the less interested I am in the whole affair. Obnoxious and entitled jock meat heads, college coaching staffs that must ride a very fine line separating the marginally corrupt behavior from the truly corrosive, huge amounts of money and energy spent worshiping the whole thing. Remember too that most of these entitled jocks are never going to play pro football, but they are going to be living and working with the rest of us, lugging around that sense of entitlement and corruption for the rest of us to deal with. Very little good can come from grown adults telling a 16 year old kid that he is the greatest thing ever. Ridiculous. The more I see of college football the more I'm convinced that the whole thing is a disgusting racket and that schools like Akron who arrive late to the party are never, never, never going to compete at a high level. The entire system is completely stacked against programs like UA's. There is no way to compete at a high level today without already possessing the prestige of the larger programs, and/or running a corrupt program. Would universities like UA really be better off not chasing the ugly dream at all?

SeeTee, I feel more like you every losing season at Akron. That's another reason why our soccer program is rising by leaps and bounds. Next season, you may need a season ticket to get in the gate to see Porter's Prospects.

Is there potential for men's futbol to be revenue neutral with a sold out stadium via season tickets? I'm not asking is it possible to sell out the season as season ticket packages .. what I'm asking, is there enough capacity at LJF that if you sold every seat for every game, would men's futbol pay for itself?

[MDZip]

As the college recruiting game continues to become more accessible to Joe Average Fan, the less interested I am in the whole affair. Obnoxious and entitled jock meat heads, college coaching staffs that must ride a very fine line separating the marginally corrupt behavior from the truly corrosive, huge amounts of money and energy spent worshiping the whole thing. Remember too that most of these entitled jocks are never going to play pro football, but they are going to be living and working with the rest of us, lugging around that sense of entitlement and corruption for the rest of us to deal with. Very little good can come from grown adults telling a 16 year old kid that he is the greatest thing ever. Ridiculous. The more I see of college football the more I'm convinced that the whole thing is a disgusting racket and that schools like Akron who arrive late to the party are never, never, never going to compete at a high level. The entire system is completely stacked against programs like UA's. There is no way to compete at a high level today without already possessing the prestige of the larger programs, and/or running a corrupt program. Would universities like UA really be better off not chasing the ugly dream at all?

SeeTee, I feel more like you every losing season at Akron. That's another reason why our soccer program is rising by leaps and bounds. Next season, you may need a season ticket to get in the gate to see Porter's Prospects.

Is there potential for men's futbol to be revenue neutral with a sold out stadium via season tickets? I'm not asking is it possible to sell out the season as season ticket packages .. what I'm asking, is there enough capacity at LJF that if you sold every seat for every game, would men's futbol pay for itself?

Currently season tickets are $50 (great deal by the way, I only got to use mine once last year and still consider it a bargain). With 1500 seats thats $75,000 and thats not near enough to sustain the program when you consider the total budget (coaches salaries, scholarships, travel). Even if you sold out the entire new stadium at 4,000 seats that's only $200K which doesn't leave much after you pay Porter (who is worth it). So not likely the soccer program will ever be self sustaining. My guess is the only self sustaining program on campus is mens basketball.

[ZachTheZip]

As the college recruiting game continues to become more accessible to Joe Average Fan, the less interested I am in the whole affair. Obnoxious and entitled jock meat heads, college coaching staffs that must ride a very fine line separating the marginally corrupt behavior from the truly corrosive, huge amounts of money and energy spent worshiping the whole thing. Remember too that most of these entitled jocks are never going to play pro football, but they are going to be living and working with the rest of us, lugging around that sense of entitlement and corruption for the rest of us to deal with. Very little good can come from grown adults telling a 16 year old kid that he is the greatest thing ever. Ridiculous. The more I see of college football the more I'm convinced that the whole thing is a disgusting racket and that schools like Akron who arrive late to the party are never, never, never going to compete at a high level. The entire system is completely stacked against programs like UA's. There is no way to compete at a high level today without already possessing the prestige of the larger programs, and/or running a corrupt program. Would universities like UA really be better off not chasing the ugly dream at all?

SeeTee, I feel more like you every losing season at Akron. That's another reason why our soccer program is rising by leaps and bounds. Next season, you may need a season ticket to get in the gate to see Porter's Prospects.

Is there potential for men's futbol to be revenue neutral with a sold out stadium via season tickets? I'm not asking is it possible to sell out the season as season ticket packages .. what I'm asking, is there enough capacity at LJF that if you sold every seat for every game, would men's futbol pay for itself?

Currently season tickets are $50 (great deal by the way, I only got to use mine once last year and still consider it a bargain). With 1500 seats thats $75,000 and thats not near enough to sustain the program when you consider the total budget (coaches salaries, scholarships, travel). Even if you sold out the entire new stadium at 4,000 seats that's only $200K which doesn't leave much after you pay Porter (who is worth it). So not likely the soccer program will ever be self sustaining. My guess is the only self sustaining program on campus is mens basketball.

If the College Cup works anything like the basketball tournament, then the soccer team and the MAC should both get a nice chunk of money from that. I don't think it's possible for the soccer team to ever break even or make a profit, but making deep runs in the tournament every year will go a long way towards keeping it from being a money pit.

[Captain Kangaroo]

I think the soccer tickets could be raised a little...maybe to $55.00 or $60. But, there is a limit for what you can charge people to stand in the grass. People also have limits on how much Zips they can afford to support, monetarily and time-wise. I'm in for $450.00 for football & roughly the same for basketball. Tack on $100 for soccer. A couple hundred for the Z-Fund...it's all fun and good entertainment...but everyone has their limit. That's where it probably where women's basketball gets affected most. At some point you gotta mow the lawn...shovel the driveway...pay the bills..etc. You can't support it all. Unless you're ZipsWin!Once additional seating is available, I'm sure people will pay even a little more for soccer tix. Some, maybe substantially more? If they opened up TWO concession stands they could make even more profit.

[MDZip]

My original estimate didn't include the SRO crowd but since a lot of them are rowdies, I don't think it raises the till too much. From what I understand the Zips only sell season tickets for the number of seats they actually have available which is where my original number came from. With the womens tickets being so cheap and their finally putting a reasonably interesting product on the floor, here's hoping they see some upswing in their season ticket holders too.And while Zach is probably correct on getting a split of the NCCA tournament money, that's a pretty small pot. There may not be anything even left to split after the expenses are paid.

[Zip Watcher]

Don't mean to continue to hijack a FB thread for Futbol .. but I guess I was thinking about how much the advertising might be worth if there's a guaranteed full house every night. Are the facilities able to generate additional revenue?And maybe moreso, does the success and popularity of the team foster big growth in youth and HS soccer camps that can be revenue generators?Revenue isn't the goal in NCAA futbol .. or at UA, but I'm wondering if there's mechanisms that make the thing closer to break even which would help UA maintain (or grow) a competitive advantage against most of D1 Futbol clubs.Go Zips!

[zipzippy]

Right now this kid's ego is clouding his judgement.Often times, the first school to offer has the inside track all the way to the finish line.

I'd say if like Michigan gave the first offer we'd see him commit there right away...but this is Akron we are talking about. As much as I love the Zips I just don't know what would make him want to come here, instead of a BCS school...

That's why we need to come out of the gate winning. Look at our offers so far. Scout list. 6 offers, and 5 of them have at least three stars, while the one that doesn't will be rocketing up the charts soon. The coaches are shooting high. We're not going after recruits that receive interest from lots of MAC schools. The only way to land them is to beat 2 of the three BCS schools on the schedule this year and to have a winning conference record. Show them that we're at least on the same level or above the BCS bottom feeders, not one of the worst teams in the country.

But we are. But if I'm a recruiter in that situation, and I'm not recruiting a kid who is obviously going to play at a BCS school right away, I'd go with the angle of being able to play as a freshman (and not getting buried with a boatload of other three/four star recruits). We don't have a lot of advantages but that might be one. At least we don't have to do distance drive-bys of the Rubber Bowl any more.

Another angle I would use is 'hey look, we want you, they are waiting cause YOU (the recruit) are not as high on their priority list as you are on ours. We want you, they want you if someone else better doesn't come along.'

You hit the nail on the head with this one. I remember being recruited I was waiting for bigger offers and one of the mac coaches said exactly this to me it held a lot of water. Also I would take an angle at some of these kids with a few bcs offers that you can come to Akron and play right away be a stand out in the confrence or go to one of these bigger schools and possibly fade away down the roster. Take a guy like Dan Lefevour for example great player great mac player but probably would have never seen the field at many other bcs schools. If your a stand out in the mac your chances of going to the NFL are just as great as they are if your a average player in the big ten.

I've always said that the way I would approach this situation is like this..."Look I'm going to be honest with you. You are BCS talent, you can play at OSU or Florida, and start. If you couldn't I really wouldn't be after you. But here is the thing, you will go, and play, and maybe you'll get to the NFL, maybe you won't. But you know what, you have to win the Heisman at the school or you are just another player that played at that school. You may get your tree, that hardcore Buckeye fans see, you may not, but if you aren't the best that ever played (which you very well are capable of doing.) You just fade away. If you play here, at Akron, you are the foundation, not a brick in the wall. The beauty of being the foundation, even in the worst storm, or earthquake, even after 1000's of years, that foundation is still there, it is still remembered it is proof that something existed. That is why I'm recruiting you, I want legends for Akron, I want a foundation of greatness. I want players that 15, 30 years from now people are comparing the incoming class to you. We have one player like that Jason Taylor. We want you to be the next."

If only these guys coming out of high school didnt have everyone and their brother in their ear telling them they are great they are going to be the next big star at these schools and they have never steped foot onto a college field yet. I would love to hear a coach tell me this I could have my number up on the wall in the stadium when I leave or I could be a guy everyone forgets about after a year. I still think this is how coaches should recruit these higher profile guys, but with the way all these recruiting services are and tv shows about recruits they are becoming high profile individuals out of high school and people are expecting them to sign with the big schools so it puts a lot of pressure on you.

[ZachTheZip]

Verballed to Pittsburgh.