Now that's how you schedule for football

[ZachTheZip]

Check out Buffalo's future schedules.

2011

9/10 vs. Stony Brook

9/17 at Pittsburgh

9/24 vs. Connecticut

10/8 at Boston College

2012 (Seven Home games)

8/30 vs. Boston College

9/8 vs. Morgan State

9/29 at Connecticut

10/6 vs. Pittsburgh

Pitt, BC, and UConn at home in a span of two years. If they're really lucky, one or two of those teams will have just made a jump to the Big Ten.

[Bull_In_Exile]

Add to that a 4 game extension on our series with Army. Five more games from 2014-2020 three there and two at UB. Will get us more time on CBS's extended football channels for the games at Army and a nice home attendance figure for the home games...

http://www.ubbullrun.com/2010/05/new-york-...ampionship.html

[MaxZIP]

Nice work! I would like to see Buffalo pull out a quality win or two.

[InTheZone]

I don't think Stony Brook is even a scholarship program. That one could get painful

[Bull_In_Exile]

I don't think Stony Brook is even a scholarship program. That one could get painful

StonyBrook is a big south so I assume they ae a scholarship program..

[InTheZone]

They just transitioned into a scholarship program in 2008, according to this article.

http://www.bigsouthsports.com/ViewArticle....;ATCLID=1567864

I knew there was a reason I thought they were non-scholly.

[GP1]

Check out Buffalo's future schedules.

2011

9/10 vs. Stony Brook

9/17 at Pittsburgh

9/24 vs. Connecticut

10/8 at Boston College

2012 (Seven Home games)

8/30 vs. Boston College

9/8 vs. Morgan State

9/29 at Connecticut

10/6 vs. Pittsburgh

Pitt, BC, and UConn at home in a span of two years. If they're really lucky, one or two of those teams will have just made a jump to the Big Ten.

UB will go 1-3 against these teams in each of the seasons they play them. I'm not sure why this is such a good schedule for them.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Pitt, BC, and UConn at home in a span of two years. If they're really lucky, one or two of those teams will have just made a jump to the Big Ten.

UB will go 1-3 against these teams in each of the seasons they play them. I'm not sure why this is such a good schedule for them.

What makes you so sure they can beat Morgan State?

[Zipmeister]

I'm thinking Stony Brook could be one of the biggest trap games of all time.

My thought a couple of years ago (expressed on this board) was that the Bulls were headed back to mediocrity as soon as Turner Gill left town, so watching their performance over the next couple of years should be insightful.

[Zipgrad01]

Check out Buffalo's future schedules.

2011

9/10 vs. Stony Brook

9/17 at Pittsburgh

9/24 vs. Connecticut

10/8 at Boston College

2012 (Seven Home games)

8/30 vs. Boston College

9/8 vs. Morgan State

9/29 at Connecticut

10/6 vs. Pittsburgh

Pitt, BC, and UConn at home in a span of two years. If they're really lucky, one or two of those teams will have just made a jump to the Big Ten.

UB will go 1-3 against these teams in each of the seasons they play them. I'm not sure why this is such a good schedule for them.

You are right...they should schedule Malone, Prairie View and SW Texas State instead. If you really think MAC teams should not strive for schedules such as this, why do you even bother paying attention to Akron games? Your small potato schedules will keep the program dormant for years. I would rather lose to a BCS than beat a garbage team nobody has heard of. It at least draws somewhat of an interest from the community as opposed to NONE.

[Bull_In_Exile]

UB will go 1-3 against these teams in each of the seasons they play them. I'm not sure why this is such a good schedule for them.

Well Pitt and UConn will be games where UB sells 20K+ seats. That kind of attendance is nice and this is where Manual has been trying to drive the program (Back in the day we used to have only five home games and that was because UB had to trade 3-1's to get anyone to come to Amherst (Rutgers/Syracuse)

The only thing that UB football is lacking at this point is community interest, if they can drive that up then the program can continue to move up and you generate that by playing regionally big names. Would you rather go 2-2 in OOC games against scrubs and one good opponent or 1-3 against good teams and one scrub while driving the fans mad with boredom...

If you cant win five MAC games odds are you should not be bowling (especially once the big conferences abolish the seven before six rule...

[MaxZIP]

A MAC team must play BCS teams whenever possible to accomplish institutional goals, help the team budget, and keep the cellar door open. Not playing BCS teams kills the one advantage that MAC teams have over FCS teams. The opportunity for players to play and be measured against top level BCS talent far outweighs their desire to play in low level money pit bowl games. Playing mid-level BCS schools also keeps the door open for the program to grow. Boise, USF, and other smaller programs clawed their way out of the cellar by playing and competing with “superior” teams. Akron could have a top 10 team and never know it because they only played other bottom feeders. Scheduling up helps to send a message to that players that 8 wins means you are a good MAC team and will probably go bowling. 10 wins means you are a good MAC team and will probably go bowling. Who cares if Akron or Buffalo starts out with a couple of losses. Losing early might help the team realize that they have to play together as a team and that they have room for improvement. Competition with BCS teams is not often fair but is the single biggest asset that lower level FBS teams can utilize. Fill the coffers against BCS teams and expect to compete at the same time. You can have it both ways. That is the beauty of college football. Make a commitment to success and stick to it. Do not lower the teams expectations because you are afraid to lose a couple of games each year. The whole argument about splitting FBS football is un-American. Give each and every team a chance to take their piece of the pie through commitment, perseverance, and incremental change. Success just doesn’t happen overnight. Set a goal and get it done. No more crap about how the big boys are beating us up. Ask the players how they feel about stepping on the field with Penn State. I bet not one of them would turn down an opportunity to show their talent against one of the top programs in the country.

[Zipmeister]

And all the best to them thar Bulls. My point is with the exception of the last few years they were the doormat of the MAC, and the schedule they have may help speed their return to that status (although they will get there one way or another).

[MaxZIP]

And all the best to them thar Bulls. My point is with the exception of the last few years they were the doormat of the MAC, and the schedule they have may help speed their return to that status (although they will get there one way or another).

So you are saying that losing OCC games against BCS teams will allow MAC teams to walk over them?

[Spin]

You only get better by playing someone better than you.

And, if you do beat a Michigan or an Illinois, it makes your whole season.

Players who wanted to go to those schools and play well against them can walk with their head held high the rest of their lives. You get on TV, your school gets it's commercials out to the whole country. It puts you on the map, especially if you don't embarass yourselves (like holding tOSU to 3 first half points a coulpe years ago). It's a good way to get on the map.

[Wally B]

Personally i think it's a great way to build on their momentum Gill or not! They sis a great job of attracting regional BCS teams, with a little success and marketing they can avoid our VT debacle at the bowl!

[Zipmeister]

And all the best to them thar Bulls. My point is with the exception of the last few years they were the doormat of the MAC, and the schedule they have may help speed their return to that status (although they will get there one way or another).

So you are saying that losing OCC games against BCS teams will allow MAC teams to walk over them?

Let me be more precise.

With the exception of the last few years they were the doormat of the MAC, and the schedule they have may help speed their return to that status (although they will get there one way or another

[skip-zip]

Check out Buffalo's future schedules.

2011

9/10 vs. Stony Brook

9/17 at Pittsburgh

9/24 vs. Connecticut

10/8 at Boston College

2012 (Seven Home games)

8/30 vs. Boston College

9/8 vs. Morgan State

9/29 at Connecticut

10/6 vs. Pittsburgh

Pitt, BC, and UConn at home in a span of two years. If they're really lucky, one or two of those teams will have just made a jump to the Big Ten.

UB will go 1-3 against these teams in each of the seasons they play them. I'm not sure why this is such a good schedule for them.

You are right...they should schedule Malone, Prairie View and SW Texas State instead. If you really think MAC teams should not strive for schedules such as this, why do you even bother paying attention to Akron games? Your small potato schedules will keep the program dormant for years. I would rather lose to a BCS than beat a garbage team nobody has heard of. It at least draws somewhat of an interest from the community as opposed to NONE.

JACKPOT!!!!!

[MaxZIP]

And all the best to them thar Bulls. My point is with the exception of the last few years they were the doormat of the MAC, and the schedule they have may help speed their return to that status (although they will get there one way or another).

So you are saying that losing OCC games against BCS teams will allow MAC teams to walk over them?

Let me be more precise.

With the exception of the last few years they were the doormat of the MAC, and the schedule they have may help speed their return to that status (although they will get there one way or another

I don't see how the occ games can have anything to do with being MAC doormat.

[Bull_In_Exile]

And all the best to them thar Bulls. My point is with the exception of the last few years they were the doormat of the MAC, and the schedule they have may help speed their return to that status (although they will get there one way or another).

You do realize they were only an FBS starting in 2000 right? so your point was that an FCS team that moved up was a doormat from 2000-2006?

2007 5-3 conference

2008 5-3 conference

2009 3-5 conference

Now UB may fall back to six years of doormat status but I really doubt it... And if they do it will have nothing to do with the fact our non-conf is hard..

[Zipmeister]

And all the best to them thar Bulls. My point is with the exception of the last few years they were the doormat of the MAC, and the schedule they have may help speed their return to that status (although they will get there one way or another).

So you are saying that losing OCC games against BCS teams will allow MAC teams to walk over them?

Let me be more precise.

With the exception of the last few years they were the doormat of the MAC, and the schedule they have may help speed their return to that status (although they will get there one way or another

I don't see how the occ games can have anything to do with being MAC doormat.

Perhaps my previous posts were unclear. Let me try one more time.

The schedule they have MAY help speed their return to doormat status ALTHOUGH THEY WILL GET THERE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

[GP1]

Pitt, BC, and UConn at home in a span of two years. If they're really lucky, one or two of those teams will have just made a jump to the Big Ten.

UB will go 1-3 against these teams in each of the seasons they play them. I'm not sure why this is such a good schedule for them.

What makes you so sure they can beat Morgan State?

[GP1]

Check out Buffalo's future schedules.

2011

9/10 vs. Stony Brook

9/17 at Pittsburgh

9/24 vs. Connecticut

10/8 at Boston College

2012 (Seven Home games)

8/30 vs. Boston College

9/8 vs. Morgan State

9/29 at Connecticut

10/6 vs. Pittsburgh

Pitt, BC, and UConn at home in a span of two years. If they're really lucky, one or two of those teams will have just made a jump to the Big Ten.

UB will go 1-3 against these teams in each of the seasons they play them. I'm not sure why this is such a good schedule for them.

You are right...they should schedule Malone, Prairie View and SW Texas State instead. If you really think MAC teams should not strive for schedules such as this, why do you even bother paying attention to Akron games? Your small potato schedules will keep the program dormant for years. I would rather lose to a BCS than beat a garbage team nobody has heard of. It at least draws somewhat of an interest from the community as opposed to NONE.

I don't know why your thinking has to be so extreme. How about this instead?

Game 1: Troy

Game 2: Morgan State

Game 3: Middle Tennessee

Game 4: Pitt, UCONN or BC

That is a sane schedule for a MAC school.

[MaxZIP]

And all the best to them thar Bulls. My point is with the exception of the last few years they were the doormat of the MAC, and the schedule they have may help speed their return to that status (although they will get there one way or another).

So you are saying that losing OCC games against BCS teams will allow MAC teams to walk over them?

Let me be more precise.

With the exception of the last few years they were the doormat of the MAC, and the schedule they have may help speed their return to that status (although they will get there one way or another

I don't see how the occ games can have anything to do with being MAC doormat.

Perhaps my previous posts were unclear. Let me try one more time.

The schedule they have MAY help speed their return to doormat status ALTHOUGH THEY WILL GET THERE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

so wha you are saying is that they will be the mac doormat soon but the schedule they have (big east and acc foes) will have little or nothing to do with their status as doormat of the mac? That makes sense.

[K92]

You only get better by playing someone better than you.

And, if you do beat a Michigan or an Illinois, it makes your whole season.

Players who wanted to go to those schools and play well against them can walk with their head held high the rest of their lives. You get on TV, your school gets it's commercials out to the whole country. It puts you on the map, especially if you don't embarass yourselves (like holding tOSU to 3 first half points a coulpe years ago). It's a good way to get on the map.

Totally agree. BC, Connecticut and Pitt at home are great additions to their schedule. Hopefully they can pack the house for those games. You know, like we failed to do against Indiana.