Ladies Football 101 - Thursday 6/10/10

[InTheZone]

I'd actually put College Volleyball ahead of soccer on that list. It's a helluva lot easier to convince a bunch of guys to go watch tall skinny college girls jumping around in spandex than a bunch of queer looking skinny college boys prancing around a field, locks flowing, chasing balls.

LOL

If volleyball would just drop the pretenses and market itself as "near models being athletic in tight shorts" you would see crowds of 10-20 thousand showing up. (probably with fistfuls of ones)

I do believe you're on to something.... now THERE's an athletic event I might consider missing a football game for!

A favorite past time of 90's era Zip football players was to peek through the gym windows before and after meetings in the JAR and watch those booties shake. If you can capture the attention of 100 college football players exhausted from practice and a couple hours of film, you can capture the attention of the male population at large. All we need is the right MARKETING and women's vollyballl could be a cash cow!

[Z.I.P.]

It looks like this thread's days are numbered.

Now we're talking!

[johnnyzip84]

Caleb would be teaching crickets. American MEN don't even care about soccer.

But Akron MEN do. Go watch a bottom barrel MAC football team or go to a sold out Pouch and watch one of the country's premiere soccer squads.

Your choice. I know where I will be.

The Pouch? lol.... That's like saying go watch the country's premier bowling team. That's wonderful that they're successful and all, but who really gives a f***?

The success of the athletic department will always hinge on football and men's basketball. I've said it before and I'll say it again.... Football and basketball could win MAC Championships, every other athletic team could not win a game, and nobody would bat an eye. TW would be the toast of the town. But if football and basketball lost every game, and every other sport won a national title, TW's ass would be grass, and Proenza would be smokin it. Ole Tom would have the first ticket out of town.

It's great that you like soccer, and I support them and love to see them succeed just like I love to see rifle and any other Zip sport succeed, but those sports will always take a back seat to football and basketball, regardless of success. The bottom line is, 95% of people in Akron and UA alumni would rather watch and pay for bad football than nationally ranked soccer any day of the week.

Well, I'm glad that I was able to drag ITZ away from his Guinness at the Cock & Bull Pub for long enough to stir up a conversation. So ITZ, have you been able to convince your neighbors in the Midlands there that real football is played by real MEN with enough padding for a team of hookers in London's East End? That it would be more interesting if Wayne Rooney and his mates would stand around in a circle before each kick of the ball so that everyone is aware of the "snap count"? But anyway, congratulations again on matriculating to a country which has its sports priorities better sorted. Cheerio, ITZ. I'll let you get back to imagining how you'll be the toast of the town after Clint Dempsey's game winner come Saturday night around 8:30 in the evening, live from South Africa. Just don't offer to buy a round of Budweisers at the ol' Cock & Bull. They drink ale, like real MEN.

The real men of Nottingham join me to watch the real men of Nottingham RFC go to war, while the fairy princesses of the town prance on over to City Ground to watch the boys of Forest FC chase balls.

So who do you like in the opener tomorrow, ITZ..........Bafana Bafana or El Tri?

[bandzip]

You certainly don't bash one over the other. Football stunk last year, we as fans and alumni have a right to bitch about it, we deserve better. But you certainly don't get to say, I love soccer, F Football, at least soccer wins, and people care more about winning. Soccer, as great as it is, is 4th fiddle in this country. Not even number two, it might even be 5th fiddle in some areas, because Lacrosse draws more people. Heck the Lacrosse final last year had more people then attended the NCAA Men's baskeball final.

Be mad that they haven't given us the football program we deserve, but don't hate on the football program.

More like 17th fiddle

1) Pro Football

2) College Football

3) Pro Baseball

4) Pro Basketball

5) College Basketball

Tie 6) Pro Hockey

Tie 6) College Baseball (it's HUGE in the southeast/south/west)

8) High School Football

9) Womens College Basketball

10) Pro Soccer

11) Pee Wee Football

12) Little League Baseball

13) Arena Football

14) College Softball

15) WNBA

16) Pro Bowling

17) College Soccer

I'd actually put College Volleyball ahead of soccer on that list. It's a helluva lot easier to convince a bunch of guys to go watch tall skinny college girls jumping around in spandex than a bunch of queer looking skinny college boys prancing around a field, locks flowing, chasing balls.

Have you been to an Akron volleyball game? There are literally like 30 people there...

[johnnyzip84]

Caleb would be teaching crickets. American MEN don't even care about soccer.

But Akron MEN do. Go watch a bottom barrel MAC football team or go to a sold out Pouch and watch one of the country's premiere soccer squads.

Your choice. I know where I will be.

The Pouch? lol.... That's like saying go watch the country's premier bowling team. That's wonderful that they're successful and all, but who really gives a f***?

The success of the athletic department will always hinge on football and men's basketball. I've said it before and I'll say it again.... Football and basketball could win MAC Championships, every other athletic team could not win a game, and nobody would bat an eye. TW would be the toast of the town. But if football and basketball lost every game, and every other sport won a national title, TW's ass would be grass, and Proenza would be smokin it. Ole Tom would have the first ticket out of town.

It's great that you like soccer, and I support them and love to see them succeed just like I love to see rifle and any other Zip sport succeed, but those sports will always take a back seat to football and basketball, regardless of success. The bottom line is, 95% of people in Akron and UA alumni would rather watch and pay for bad football than nationally ranked soccer any day of the week.

Well, I'm glad that I was able to drag ITZ away from his Guinness at the Cock & Bull Pub for long enough to stir up a conversation. So ITZ, have you been able to convince your neighbors in the Midlands there that real football is played by real MEN with enough padding for a team of hookers in London's East End? That it would be more interesting if Wayne Rooney and his mates would stand around in a circle before each kick of the ball so that everyone is aware of the "snap count"? But anyway, congratulations again on matriculating to a country which has its sports priorities better sorted. Cheerio, ITZ. I'll let you get back to imagining how you'll be the toast of the town after Clint Dempsey's game winner come Saturday night around 8:30 in the evening, live from South Africa. Just don't offer to buy a round of Budweisers at the ol' Cock & Bull. They drink ale, like real MEN.

Not a bad call, Z.I.P. I think ITZ should go ask the Green Street Elite how they feel about the Hammers' own keeper Green fumbling away 2 points for the Three Lions

[Dr Z]

I can see why they dropped the football golf outing for events like this.

[InTheZone]

I can see why they dropped the football golf outing for events like this.

Do I sense a hint of sarcasm...

[MaxZIP]

I think Mrs. Ianello had something to do with this. Like someone on here said before. Sign her up. At least somebody is doing something out in Zips marketing land.

[Captain Kangaroo]

I think Mrs. Ianello had something to do with this. Like someone on here said before. Sign her up. At least somebody is doing something out in Zips marketing land.

The University decided NOT to hold a decade's-old event that would allow fans, alumni and former players to meet with the new staff. They decided "YES" to hold a "Women's Football 101" event instead. Does this count as a GP1-described "land mine?"

Somebody shoot me.

...and then spread my ashes in Lot #9.

[UA Fan]

I can see why they dropped the football golf outing for events like this.

That end zone berm grass has grown out quite nicely after only less than a year..

[GP1]

The University decided NOT to hold a decade's-old event that would allow fans, alumni and former players to meet with the new staff. They decided "YES" to hold a "Women's Football 101" event instead. Does this count as a GP1-described "land mine?"

I don't think it is a land mine. It really isn't an either/or proposition. They should have both. After 10 years, I can't imagine putting together a golf outing would be all that difficult. At this point, it should fall into place easily.

The ladies day is something completely different. Other than getting people there, the rest shouldn't be that difficult. The coaches probably have presentation material from other events so it would take them no time to put together. They could get some players with a little free time on their hands to do some demonstrations. I could be wrong, but it all seems pretty easy to me.

Community outreach is important. Golf outings, clinics for the ladies, public speaking stops for Coach I, JK and KD should all be a must do. It's not either/or.

Last question. Is there a bigger camera whore on the face of the Earth than Zippy?

[ZachTheZip]

I don't think it is a land mine. It really isn't an either/or proposition. They should have both.

Exactly this. I don't understand how anyone could assume the staff is only capable of doing one of the events instead of both, and had to choose. Each event takes one day out of the summer, and not much planning. It's not like we're busy holding Charlie Frye camps every weekend. They aren't busy installing the new offense and defense, because practices aren't allowed yet.

This was a deliberate choice made by the football staff, to forgo the golf outing.

[GP1]

This was a deliberate choice made by the football staff, to forgo the golf outing.

Was it the football staff or the athletic department? I hope it wasn't the staff.

[InTheZone]

This was a deliberate choice made by the football staff, to forgo the golf outing.

Was it the football staff or the athletic department? I hope it wasn't the staff.

The Athletic Department has had nothing to do with the outing recently. It's all organized by the football office, and Ianello said the hell with it.

[GP1]

This was a deliberate choice made by the football staff, to forgo the golf outing.

Was it the football staff or the athletic department? I hope it wasn't the staff.

The Athletic Department has had nothing to do with the outing recently. It's all organized by the football office, and Ianello said the hell with it.

If this is true, I have different thoughts.

First, on some level I don't blame the coach. Look at GoZips.com and look at the amount of staff sitting around the Athletic Department. Surely a couple of them would have time to do something like this. The coaching staff shouldn't have to do it.

This is the kind of support an AD should give to one of his new employees. CoachI is new at the school and his staff is new (six months). Give these guys some help getting to know the alumni/donors and organize an outing for them for crying out loud. I've said it before and I'll say it again. We have a very lazy AD on our hands and I am worried about that.

[InTheZone]

Basketball had no problem getting their outing together.

http://www.gozips.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_...TCLID=204961412

[GP1]

Basketball had no problem getting their outing together.

http://www.gozips.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_...TCLID=204961412

I think it is a crying shame that an assistant basketball coach has to put this together. It makes us look small time.

Other schools have a clinic for ladies as well. It isn't on their press page, but I have gotten invitations the past three years for their golf outing as well. Like I said, it isn't either/or. They should be doing things like this. Does anyone think for one second that an assistant coach at even a little school like Wake Forest has to organize golf outings? It's insane.

There are plenty of people in the Athletic Department to do this. Gary Bogue used to do it and it was a great event when he did. He wasn't a coach, just a guy working in Athletics. He could have easily done both because he was organized.

I could go on about what a poor job UofA does with alumni relations. Miami has an alumni events 2-3 per year in the Charlotte area...my wife makes me go. There is a young woman who organizes them and she lives locally. Miami gives her mailing lists/e-mail lists and give away items. She does the rest. She even has the phone numbers of Carolina Panthers who went to Miami and they show up. It isn't hard to send an e-mail, reserve a room at a local bar and have an outing with 40 people. I know people who graduated from UofA who would love to have socials, but there is no way of organizing them. I brought this up to someone at UofA one time and they looked at me like I was speaking another language. I would do it myself with a little support.

It is not the job of coaches to organize golf outings. That is small time if they do. The University needs to take charge and people in the bloated Athletic Department's staff need to put this together.

[Jalapeño Zippy]

Basketball had no problem getting their outing together.

http://www.gozips.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_...TCLID=204961412

I think it is a crying shame that an assistant basketball coach has to put this together. It makes us look small time.

Other schools have a clinic for ladies as well. It isn't on their press page, but I have gotten invitations the past three years for their golf outing as well. Like I said, it isn't either/or. They should be doing things like this. Does anyone think for one second that an assistant coach at even a little school like Wake Forest has to organize golf outings? It's insane.

There are plenty of people in the Athletic Department to do this. Gary Bogue used to do it and it was a great event when he did. He wasn't a coach, just a guy working in Athletics. He could have easily done both because he was organized.

I could go on about what a poor job UofA does with alumni relations. Miami has an alumni events 2-3 per year in the Charlotte area...my wife makes me go. There is a young woman who organizes them and she lives locally. Miami gives her mailing lists/e-mail lists and give away items. She does the rest. She even has the phone numbers of Carolina Panthers who went to Miami and they show up. It isn't hard to send an e-mail, reserve a room at a local bar and have an outing with 40 people. I know people who graduated from UofA who would love to have socials, but there is no way of organizing them. I brought this up to someone at UofA one time and they looked at me like I was speaking another language. I would do it myself with a little support.

It is not the job of coaches to organize golf outings. That is small time if they do. The University needs to take charge and people in the bloated Athletic Department's staff need to put this together.

Have you reached out to the alumni office? I seriously doubt they'd turn down someone willing to help get alumni re-connected with their alma mater.

[GP1]

Basketball had no problem getting their outing together.

http://www.gozips.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_...TCLID=204961412

I think it is a crying shame that an assistant basketball coach has to put this together. It makes us look small time.

Other schools have a clinic for ladies as well. It isn't on their press page, but I have gotten invitations the past three years for their golf outing as well. Like I said, it isn't either/or. They should be doing things like this. Does anyone think for one second that an assistant coach at even a little school like Wake Forest has to organize golf outings? It's insane.

There are plenty of people in the Athletic Department to do this. Gary Bogue used to do it and it was a great event when he did. He wasn't a coach, just a guy working in Athletics. He could have easily done both because he was organized.

I could go on about what a poor job UofA does with alumni relations. Miami has an alumni events 2-3 per year in the Charlotte area...my wife makes me go. There is a young woman who organizes them and she lives locally. Miami gives her mailing lists/e-mail lists and give away items. She does the rest. She even has the phone numbers of Carolina Panthers who went to Miami and they show up. It isn't hard to send an e-mail, reserve a room at a local bar and have an outing with 40 people. I know people who graduated from UofA who would love to have socials, but there is no way of organizing them. I brought this up to someone at UofA one time and they looked at me like I was speaking another language. I would do it myself with a little support.

It is not the job of coaches to organize golf outings. That is small time if they do. The University needs to take charge and people in the bloated Athletic Department's staff need to put this together.

Have you reached out to the alumni office? I seriously doubt they'd turn down someone willing to help get alumni re-connected with their alma mater.

I did. No luck.

[Jalapeño Zippy]

I'm a little surprised by that...the group there now is pretty darn good. did you reach out recently?