GP1 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 After enjoying a game where the final score was 54-48 (in regulation), I had to find out from my wife that we lost to one of our fellow I-AA teams. Seriously, I didn't see this coming. There is no way to polish this pile of crap. I'm sorry some of you had to waste your time and money. Really, I'm sorry. I believe a lot of our blame is being placed on the wrong people (see last paragraph for blame....a little bit too much Labatt Blue at this point). I agree Coach I wasn't the best choice. I agree TW's best professional skill is keeping a seat warm in an office setting. TW is more expendable at this point. Pull the ejection cord on the guy already. Nothing good has happened since he sat in the big chair. It's been one year. Enough is enough. I'm not one to fire coaches as a knee-jerk reaction so I don't want to do that. I'd rather get an AD in here who can support a young coach who may need some guidance and assistance. Dr. Proenza created this disaster, he needs to fix it and fix it fast. I'm trying to grasp for something positive here as I look past IN and KY to the rest of this year and next. The start of this season reminds me of JD's first season. We got destroyed by PSU and our "stud" QB left a load in his pants in State College just like PN did last week at the Big Dialer. JD's first season we lost to MTSU who was I-AA the year before but not that year. I think the record was 1-4 after that point. Everyone wanted JD fired. A little back up running back named Brett Biggs took over the team after the MTSU game and the season turned around. He was the reason for the turn around. We won the mac the next season after JD was able to put people in the right places and we got a winning QB in place. Where and who is our next Brett Biggs? We need somebody to step in who is sick and tired of the losing. It's easy to lose. It's hard to win. We need to start winning. We had a kicker miss a field goal that any D-1 kicker should make. We had an extra point blocked. Unless the kicker kicked the ball up the ass of the center, this shouldn't happen. What I'm trying to say is, the PLAYERS need to fucking start playing already. Stop blaming the coach and put the blame squarely where it belongs...on the shoulders of the players. 31 points given up to a I-AA team is terrible. It was 31-17 at one point. The final score should have been 45-17. On the other side of the ball, we should be scoring 40 point minimum agains I-AA teams. The players need to get their losing heads out of their asses and perform. They all have full scholarships and they need to earn them. Where are you when we need you Brett Biggs? Is there a Brett Biggs on this team on either side of the ball? Seriously? Now let's go get a damn snack.... Quote
GoZips Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 I strongly get the impression that GP1 thinks this team has no leader. I couldn't agree with him more. And, yes, its time for Wistrcrap to be gone. The next AD can burn Idontknowhowtowin. Quote
akron football Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 After enjoying a game where the final score was 54-48 (in regulation), I had to find out from my wife that we lost to one of our fellow I-AA teams. Seriously, I didn't see this coming. There is no way to polish this pile of crap. I'm sorry some of you had to waste your time and money. Really, I'm sorry. I believe a lot of our blame is being placed on the wrong people (see last paragraph for blame....a little bit too much Labatt Blue at this point). I agree Coach I wasn't the best choice. I agree TW's best professional skill is keeping a seat warm in an office setting. TW is more expendable at this point. Pull the ejection cord on the guy already. Nothing good has happened since he sat in the big chair. It's been one year. Enough is enough. I'm not one to fire coaches as a knee-jerk reaction so I don't want to do that. I'd rather get an AD in here who can support a young coach who may need some guidance and assistance. Dr. Proenza created this disaster, he needs to fix it and fix it fast. I'm trying to grasp for something positive here as I look past IN and KY to the rest of this year and next. The start of this season reminds me of JD's first season. We go destroyed by PSU and our "stud" QB left a load in his pants in State College just like PN did last week at the Big Dialer. JD's first season we lost to MTSU who was I-AA the year before but not that year. I think the record was 1-4 after that point. Everyone wanted JD fired. A little back up running back named Brett Biggs took over the team after the MTSU game and the season turned around. He was the reason for the turn around. We won the mac the next season after JD was able to put people in the right places and we got a winning QB in place. Where and who is our next Brett Biggs? We need somebody to step in who is sick and tired of the losing. It's easy to lose. It's hard to win. We need to start winning. We had a kicker miss a field goal that any D-1 kicker should make. We had an extra point blocked. Unless the kicker kicked the ball up the ass of the center, this shouldn't happen. What I'm trying to say is, the PLAYERS need to fucking start playing already. Stop blaming the coach and put the blame squarely where it belongs...on the shoulders of the players. 31 points given up to a I-AA team is terrible. It was 31-17 at one point. The final score should have been 45-17. On the other side of the ball, we should be scoring 40 point minimum agains I-AA teams. The players need to get their losing heads out of their asses and perform. They all have full scholarships and they need to earn them. Where are you when we need you Brett Biggs? Is there a Brett Biggs on this team on either side of the ball? Seriously? Now let's go get a damn snack.... What do you mean by PN7 leaving a load in his pants at the big dialer? Please enlighten me all knowing GP1 Quote
InTheZone Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 While I think Rob Ianello is a terrible coach and was a terrible hire, and you can look throughout this board from January on to see that my position has always been consistent, I think GP1 makes a good point in that this has got to fall on the players too. I mean they just gave up 38 points to a 1-AA school. Yes our coaches are incompetent, but good Lord, that wasn't even a good 1-AA team!!! My senior year we played two 1-AA teams, and honest to God, I don't think it would've mattered if the coaches had gone up to the Varsity A room and kicked back for beers and belly laughs during that game, we still would've wiped the floor with them freestyling it and doing whatever the hell we felt like. The talent level was that different. Those guys today stepped onto the field against a highly inferior team, and bent over and took it right up the ass from them. Gardner-Webb had more heart and a bigger sack swingin between their legs. If I was on this defense, I'd be checking my manhood in the mirror tonight. Quote
ZachTheZip Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 The players are in shock. The reactions I'm getting from them are of confusion ("how could this possibly happen?") and depression. I haven't seen a single reaction of a player becoming more determined and vowing to work his ass off to never get embarrassed like this again. They don't know how to win. Some blame absolutely has to get put on the players. The defense looked like they took the day off. The WRs are completely inept. A bright spot was the running game which produced two 100-yard rushers in Allen and Burney. But if you didn't watch the game, you don't know just how poorly coached the team was. The adjustments were non-existent. Even as GW's offense picked apart our zone we never once switched to man coverage. The playcalling was as unimaginative as a Madden computer opponent set to "easy". We kept doing the same things over and over and never switched when it was proven that something didn't work. The players were physically unprepared. There were very little substitutions when the players were tired, as if the coach was afraid to use our depth to wear down a team that only brought around 50 players. The coaches deserve as much blame as the players, if not more. Quote
GP1 Posted September 12, 2010 Author Report Posted September 12, 2010 What do you mean by PN7 leaving a load in his pants at the big dialer? Please enlighten me all knowing GP1 33% completion percentage in game one. Quote
ksu sucks Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 If I were on the defense tonight, I'd be checkin my manhood in the mirror tonight. That's always my first resort after a tough loss. Just don't use public restrooms. Quote
GP1 Posted September 12, 2010 Author Report Posted September 12, 2010 They don't know how to win. Bingo. Or more importantly...they don't know how to win because they don't win. If you start to win, you realize how hard it is to win. At that point, you get used to the hard work it takes and the feeling of success. The players should feel like crap. They made fools of themselves today. Quote
InTheZone Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 I hope they're prepared to hear a lot of students talking about what a joke they are on campus this week. And they deserve every word of it. I'm not convinced by what I've seen in these first two games that this team even cares if they win or not. There's always a few guys on every team that are just in it to cash their scholarship checks. I think that's the majority on this team. Quote
RACER Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 i did not post much until i saw todays game.i was wondering if cuse might be the best team in the big east. i thought that was the reason for the score last week.that we were better than any 1-aa team. i found out we are one of the worst teams in d-1.we could not even beat a team that was not been ranked in the top 25 of 1-aa.i have to agree with gp about the players.this is a different coach, but the same guys that had three losing season before RI arrived.at some point you can't blame the coaches for everything,or the A.D. for bad hires. at some point which is now. most of the blame is on the guys on the field. a coach should not to spend hours on how to make an extra point,or short field goals.he should not have to tell a D.B. to turn around after 5 seconds to look at the qb. who knows you might get an interception.it's all on the players at this point.they have two tuff road games now. if they have any kind of pride they will go out and play a respectable game.play smart, and hard for four qtrs. i am not even concerned about winning at this point. it's all about pride ,and self respect from here on out. we will see in the next two games what this team is made of.are they quitters ,or fighters? Quote
UAZipster0305 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 At the college level, the main responsibility of the coach is to lead the team to winning. He does this through holding the players accountable and providing a consistently communicated plan. Afterall, the coach is the only one getting paid. Player leadership and the desire to win only go so far in spite of poor coaching. So, I don't blame the players, I feel sorry for them, but only to an extent. Bring Brian Kelly in here and I bet we'd consistently improve throughout the year and win the MAC next year with THESE players! Quote
72 Roo Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 The players are in shock. The reactions I'm getting from them are of confusion ("how could this possibly happen?") and depression. I haven't seen a single reaction of a player becoming more determined and vowing to work his ass off to never get embarrassed like this again. They don't know how to win. Some blame absolutely has to get put on the players. The defense looked like they took the day off. The WRs are completely inept. A bright spot was the running game which produced two 100-yard rushers in Allen and Burney. But if you didn't watch the game, you don't know just how poorly coached the team was. The adjustments were non-existent. Even as GW's offense picked apart our zone we never once switched to man coverage. The playcalling was as unimaginative as a Madden computer opponent set to "easy". We kept doing the same things over and over and never switched when it was proven that something didn't work. The players were physically unprepared. There were very little substitutions when the players were tired, as if the coach was afraid to use our depth to wear down a team that only brought around 50 players. The coaches deserve as much blame as the players, if not more. Zach, I think you hit the nail on the head. I agree with you and you said it well. The players play with no leadership or passsion. Only Wagner does. They need leadership and a vision. It must come from the coaching staff. This was a terribly prepared team and that's on the staff. GW made brilliant adjustments in the second quarter, so why can't we? I have stated I will give coach I time, but please show you can coach. Quote
scottditzen Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 One only needed to look at the body language of both teams today. If you were one of the dozens of fans in attendance, you would've noticed it. Since halftime, the GW players were animated, fired up and in the moment. Our Zips stood quietly on the sidelines, shrugging their shoulders for the rest of the game. This was a black day in the history of the program. Quote
K92 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 One only needed to look at the body language of both teams today. If you were one of the dozens of fans in attendance, you would've noticed it. Since halftime, the GW players were animated, fired up and in the moment. Our Zips stood quietly on the sidelines, shrugging their shoulders for the rest of the game. This was a black day in the history of the program. Yep. And after the missed field goal their coach turned to the bench and said "YOU GOTTA BE READY TO SPILL YOUR BLOOD NOW!" The Bulldogs stood up and fired up. Looked across the field at the Zips and was like WOW, what a contrast! We had body language that said we were already beaten. So sad to see. Quote
ZippyforPresident Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 The players are in shock. The reactions I'm getting from them are of confusion ("how could this possibly happen?") and depression. I haven't seen a single reaction of a player becoming more determined and vowing to work his ass off to never get embarrassed like this again. They don't know how to win. Some blame absolutely has to get put on the players. The defense looked like they took the day off. The WRs are completely inept. A bright spot was the running game which produced two 100-yard rushers in Allen and Burney. But if you didn't watch the game, you don't know just how poorly coached the team was. The adjustments were non-existent. Even as GW's offense picked apart our zone we never once switched to man coverage. The playcalling was as unimaginative as a Madden computer opponent set to "easy". We kept doing the same things over and over and never switched when it was proven that something didn't work. The players were physically unprepared. There were very little substitutions when the players were tired, as if the coach was afraid to use our depth to wear down a team that only brought around 50 players. The coaches deserve as much blame as the players, if not more. Zach, I think you hit the nail on the head. I agree with you and you said it well. The players play with no leadership or passsion. Only Wagner does. They need leadership and a vision. It must come from the coaching staff. This was a terribly prepared team and that's on the staff. GW made brilliant adjustments in the second quarter, so why can't we? I have stated I will give coach I time, but please show you can coach. Well, at least there is no place to go but up from here (I hope)? Maybe Tommy Boy can make a youtube video to inspire and call all to arms after this disaster... Good luck with that one. Quote
GP1 Posted September 12, 2010 Author Report Posted September 12, 2010 He does this through holding the players accountable and providing a consistently communicated plan. This sounds like the type of jibberish I had to listen to when I was working in corporate America around those Six Sigma lunatics. It sounds good, but is in fact lifeless. Does the coach need a plan? Yes. They had one. In fact, their plan gave them a 31-17 lead. If it gave them a 31-17 lead, it could have given them a 45-17 victory if they PLAYERS execute the plan. I don't feel one damn bit sorry for the players. They are adults with full scholarshps so they need to be held accountable. The players blew another game...and I don't mean just this year. We can have a rotating head coach position from now to kingdom come and change our names to The University of Akron Browns, but unless they players decide they have had enough winning it isn't going to change. The players need to be called out. Quote
Lee Adams Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 After enjoying a game where the final score was 54-48 (in regulation), I had to find out from my wife that we lost to one of our fellow I-AA teams. Seriously, I didn't see this coming. There is no way to polish this pile of crap. I'm sorry some of you had to waste your time and money. Really, I'm sorry. I believe a lot of our blame is being placed on the wrong people (see last paragraph for blame....a little bit too much Labatt Blue at this point). I agree Coach I wasn't the best choice. I agree TW's best professional skill is keeping a seat warm in an office setting. TW is more expendable at this point. Pull the ejection cord on the guy already. Nothing good has happened since he sat in the big chair. It's been one year. Enough is enough. I'm not one to fire coaches as a knee-jerk reaction so I don't want to do that. I'd rather get an AD in here who can support a young coach who may need some guidance and assistance. Dr. Proenza created this disaster, he needs to fix it and fix it fast. I'm trying to grasp for something positive here as I look past IN and KY to the rest of this year and next. The start of this season reminds me of JD's first season. We got destroyed by PSU and our "stud" QB left a load in his pants in State College just like PN did last week at the Big Dialer. JD's first season we lost to MTSU who was I-AA the year before but not that year. I think the record was 1-4 after that point. Everyone wanted JD fired. A little back up running back named Brett Biggs took over the team after the MTSU game and the season turned around. He was the reason for the turn around. We won the mac the next season after JD was able to put people in the right places and we got a winning QB in place. Where and who is our next Brett Biggs? We need somebody to step in who is sick and tired of the losing. It's easy to lose. It's hard to win. We need to start winning. We had a kicker miss a field goal that any D-1 kicker should make. We had an extra point blocked. Unless the kicker kicked the ball up the ass of the center, this shouldn't happen. What I'm trying to say is, the PLAYERS need to fucking start playing already. Stop blaming the coach and put the blame squarely where it belongs...on the shoulders of the players. 31 points given up to a I-AA team is terrible. It was 31-17 at one point. The final score should have been 45-17. On the other side of the ball, we should be scoring 40 point minimum agains I-AA teams. The players need to get their losing heads out of their asses and perform. They all have full scholarships and they need to earn them. Where are you when we need you Brett Biggs? Is there a Brett Biggs on this team on either side of the ball? Seriously? Now let's go get a damn snack.... i totally agree on the point about Biggsy...w/o him the '05 team never does what it does...there ARE players on this team who SHOULD be able to step up and lead...plenty of sr's here...maybe Ianello is not encouraging that,maybe the guys who have been here aren't comfortable stepping up...hard for me to believe there are not 1or 2 guys who are capable...AA seems to be a 'rah,rah' type active on the sideline..hope someone steps up because the majority of the team is not behind this staff yet.. Quote
RACER Posted September 12, 2010 Report Posted September 12, 2010 trimmy didn't N.D. lose yesterday? Quote
GP1 Posted September 12, 2010 Author Report Posted September 12, 2010 After enjoying a game where the final score was 54-48 (in regulation), I had to find out from my wife that we lost to one of our fellow I-AA teams. Seriously, I didn't see this coming. There is no way to polish this pile of crap. I'm sorry some of you had to waste your time and money. Really, I'm sorry. I believe a lot of our blame is being placed on the wrong people (see last paragraph for blame....a little bit too much Labatt Blue at this point). I agree Coach I wasn't the best choice. I agree TW's best professional skill is keeping a seat warm in an office setting. TW is more expendable at this point. Pull the ejection cord on the guy already. Nothing good has happened since he sat in the big chair. It's been one year. Enough is enough. I'm not one to fire coaches as a knee-jerk reaction so I don't want to do that. I'd rather get an AD in here who can support a young coach who may need some guidance and assistance. Dr. Proenza created this disaster, he needs to fix it and fix it fast. I'm trying to grasp for something positive here as I look past IN and KY to the rest of this year and next. The start of this season reminds me of JD's first season. We got destroyed by PSU and our "stud" QB left a load in his pants in State College just like PN did last week at the Big Dialer. JD's first season we lost to MTSU who was I-AA the year before but not that year. I think the record was 1-4 after that point. Everyone wanted JD fired. A little back up running back named Brett Biggs took over the team after the MTSU game and the season turned around. He was the reason for the turn around. We won the mac the next season after JD was able to put people in the right places and we got a winning QB in place. Where and who is our next Brett Biggs? We need somebody to step in who is sick and tired of the losing. It's easy to lose. It's hard to win. We need to start winning. We had a kicker miss a field goal that any D-1 kicker should make. We had an extra point blocked. Unless the kicker kicked the ball up the ass of the center, this shouldn't happen. What I'm trying to say is, the PLAYERS need to fucking start playing already. Stop blaming the coach and put the blame squarely where it belongs...on the shoulders of the players. 31 points given up to a I-AA team is terrible. It was 31-17 at one point. The final score should have been 45-17. On the other side of the ball, we should be scoring 40 point minimum agains I-AA teams. The players need to get their losing heads out of their asses and perform. They all have full scholarships and they need to earn them. Where are you when we need you Brett Biggs? Is there a Brett Biggs on this team on either side of the ball? Seriously? Now let's go get a damn snack.... i totally agree on the point about Biggsy...w/o him the '05 team never does what it does...there ARE players on this team who SHOULD be able to step up and lead...plenty of sr's here...maybe Ianello is not encouraging that,maybe the guys who have been here aren't comfortable stepping up...hard for me to believe there are not 1or 2 guys who are capable...AA seems to be a 'rah,rah' type active on the sideline..hope someone steps up because the majority of the team is not behind this staff yet.. Agreed. There are plenty of players who played on a team that won at least three games last year. We have how many returning starters? I don't see them winning another game this season, which is why I'm so confused by Captain Kangaroo's post about the lack of talent. There is talent and there is experience. They should be better. Quote
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