akronad Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Funny, I was LAMBASTED on Rasor's blog over the past year when I suggested that ticket prices were too high for the UA football product. LAMBASTED. "We're D-1...Stay at home, then!...How can UA support its athletic dept.?...What's $15 or $20 a game??"----Those were all the excuses I heard, justifying UA charging $10 to $15 MORE than crosstown rival Can't State. Well, who's lambasting NOW? Took ya all long enough to finally see the light. I was also LAMBASTED for suggesting that Terry Bowden would ever come here. Well, he's at a I-AA school, and every man has his price. He also coached here before. Bottom line, folks: Think before you instantly go negative on other bloggers' thoughts. Our tickets ARE overpriced, and Ianello was NOT the right hire. Either was TW. Call me what you want, but I'll be at the game Saturday. I support the school. But I certainly do not support the hiring decisions. And after hearing about Ianello's alleged arrogance and intolerability around the department, I am more convinced than ever...this guy has GOT TO GO. NOW. You might be right. But...how many first year coaches have you seen canned? And, it's not going to happen here. U of A has too much money invested in Icoach at this time. Plus, they want to give him a chance to prove himself. One season does not make a career. Ask Al Golden at Temple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Funny, I was LAMBASTED on Rasor's blog over the past year when I suggested that ticket prices were too high for the UA football product. LAMBASTED. "We're D-1...Stay at home, then!...How can UA support its athletic dept.?...What's $15 or $20 a game??"----Those were all the excuses I heard, justifying UA charging $10 to $15 MORE than crosstown rival Can't State. Well, who's lambasting NOW? Took ya all long enough to finally see the light. I was also LAMBASTED for suggesting that Terry Bowden would ever come here. Well, he's at a I-AA school, and every man has his price. He also coached here before. Bottom line, folks: Think before you instantly go negative on other bloggers' thoughts. Our tickets ARE overpriced, and Ianello was NOT the right hire. Either was TW. Call me what you want, but I'll be at the game Saturday. I support the school. But I certainly do not support the hiring decisions. And after hearing about Ianello's alleged arrogance and intolerability around the department, I am more convinced than ever...this guy has GOT TO GO. NOW. Mmmmmmmmm........lamb baste........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornbread Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 You might be right. But...how many first year coaches have you seen canned? And, it's not going to happen here. U of A has too much money invested in Icoach at this time. Plus, they want to give him a chance to prove himself. One season does not make a career. Ask Al Golden at Temple. iCoach hasn't gotten a full chance. They didn't hire him for one year. Give him 3-5yrs and make a judgement then. We can all see we suck now. I agree with AkronAD. I hope none of you invest in stocks. This guy was fired in his first season at a new job as well. It is soccer related but everyone seems to love that silly game here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipRoo Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 You might be right. But...how many first year coaches have you seen canned? And, it's not going to happen here. U of A has too much money invested in Icoach at this time. Plus, they want to give him a chance to prove himself. One season does not make a career. Ask Al Golden at Temple. Problem is...Ianello NEVER had the support of Zips fans, and it's only gotten worse. Just as Belichick alienated the Browns fanbase and could never have prospered in Cleveland, the situation here in Akron is b-a-d. At least we recognize it early and won't be forced to compound the error by keeping this guy around. Exercise the buyout clause and start with a clean slate. Cut your losses. The future of UA's football program, and ergo--the athletic department as a whole--DEPENDS upon getting the right fit here. Three to five years of this guy and his mess, we're looking at friends and family only at games. Come on, Luis, make a D-1 level decision. Admit this was a mistake from the get-go, and bring in some actual pros to help find the man to lead this program. Again, I'm sure other schools and coaches have eventually had a measure of success, but are we really ready to risk our future on this obviously-flawed choice? There's no reason for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 iCoach hasn't gotten a full chance. They didn't hire him for one year. Give him 3-5yrs and make a judgement then. We can all see we suck now. Three years, max. If he doesn't begin to get things turned around next year, though, it will become clear that it will never happen. Four wins next year is reasonable for expectations. It's not like we play a BCS conference schedule. Then again, four wins was reasonable this year and I strongly doubt we'll see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxZIP Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 You might be right. But...how many first year coaches have you seen canned? And, it's not going to happen here. U of A has too much money invested in Icoach at this time. Plus, they want to give him a chance to prove himself. One season does not make a career. Ask Al Golden at Temple. iCoach hasn't gotten a full chance. They didn't hire him for one year. Give him 3-5yrs and make a judgement then. We can all see we suck now. I agree with AkronAD. I hope none of you invest in stocks. This guy was fired in his first season at a new job as well. It is soccer related but everyone seems to love that silly game here. I don't think he should be fired this year or probably next (unless he loses to another FCS team). The third year is judgment time after each and every game. Excuse are excuses though and winning with somebody else’s players is a must in your first head coaching job. Maybe he should have made incremental changes to the schemes or maybe his balls to the walls tactic will pay off next year. Bottom line is we just don't know but it looks worse now than ever before. Not being competitive in the MAC has everything to do with his ability to get the team mentally and physically ready to play. Let me know when you see progress. I'll still be here because I am not a fair weather fan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zip Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 By buying tickets next year you are saying that you support the decision TW made to hire an unfit coach that doesn't know his way around a football field. He has been horrible....horrible right on down to the little things. My time and my money are worth more to me and I'm sorry to hear your time and your money aren't worth more to you. I can spend an afternoon with my family not thinking about screaming or I can go to a Zips game and watch that crap they are putting on the field. Call me what you want I don't care...I've been attending Zips games as a student and an alumnus for 20+ years. Execuse me if I've finally had enough and know the only way they will understand my displeasure is by not buying tickets. They are showing they don't care about me as a fan with the decisions they've made. Why can't I show my displeasure with them by not buying tickets? Not to mention there are free tickets available to me weekly because everyone esle isn't going. Finally, I say this now, but I certainly reserve the right to mail in my check next year should the months without football lower my level of anger at the complete and under incompetence I have witnessed this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxZIP Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 By buying tickets next year you are saying that you support the decision TW made to hire an unfit coach that doesn't know his way around a football field. He has been horrible....horrible right on down to the little things. My time and my money are worth more to me and I'm sorry to hear your time and your money aren't worth more to you. I can spend an afternoon with my family not thinking about screaming or I can go to a Zips game and watch that crap they are putting on the field. Call me what you want I don't care...I've been attending Zips games as a student and an alumnus for 20+ years. Execuse me if I've finally had enough and know the only way they will understand my displeasure is by not buying tickets. They are showing they don't care about me as a fan with the decisions they've made. Why can't I show my displeasure with them by not buying tickets? Not to mention there are free tickets available to me weekly because everyone esle isn't going. Finally, I say this now, but I certainly reserve the right to mail in my check next year should the months without football lower my level of anger at the complete and under incompetence I have witnessed this year. Right on the money. Buy tickets only if the quality of play is adequate. I think we should all get a refund for the loss to GW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 By buying tickets next year you are saying that you support...Browns fans do it year in and year out, why can't Zips fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxZIP Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 By buying tickets next year you are saying that you support...Browns fans do it year in and year out, why can't Zips fans? I hope the sell 20,000 season ticket packages next year to help the program. I just will not be one of the suckers unless I am overwhelmed with football fervor next summer. I can’t account for my state of mind after 6 months without football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 By buying tickets next year you are saying that you support...Browns fans do it year in and year out, why can't Zips fans? And how's that worked out for Browns fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you am i Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 You might be right. But...how many first year coaches have you seen canned? And, it's not going to happen here. U of A has too much money invested in Icoach at this time. Plus, they want to give him a chance to prove himself. One season does not make a career. Ask Al Golden at Temple. iCoach hasn't gotten a full chance. They didn't hire him for one year. Give him 3-5yrs and make a judgement then. We can all see we suck now. I agree with AkronAD. I hope none of you invest in stocks. This guy was fired in his first season at a new job as well. It is soccer related but everyone seems to love that silly game here. I do invest in stocks. I have a "buy low/sell high" contrarian philosphy of investing, but if I was to rate UA football as if it was a stock, I would call it a bad investment choice at this time due to poor managment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 By buying tickets next year you are saying that you support...Browns fans do it year in and year out, why can't Zips fans? And how's that worked out for Browns fans? Support your team win or lose. That is a true fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxZIP Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 By buying tickets next year you are saying that you support...Browns fans do it year in and year out, why can't Zips fans? And how's that worked out for Browns fans? Support your team win or lose. That is a true fan. I will support them. Just not with money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 By buying tickets next year you are saying that you support the decision TW made to hire an unfit coach that doesn't know his way around a football field. He has been horrible....horrible right on down to the little things. My time and my money are worth more to me and I'm sorry to hear your time and your money aren't worth more to you. I can spend an afternoon with my family not thinking about screaming or I can go to a Zips game and watch that crap they are putting on the field. Call me what you want I don't care...I've been attending Zips games as a student and an alumnus for 20+ years. Execuse me if I've finally had enough and know the only way they will understand my displeasure is by not buying tickets. They are showing they don't care about me as a fan with the decisions they've made. Why can't I show my displeasure with them by not buying tickets? Not to mention there are free tickets available to me weekly because everyone esle isn't going. Finally, I say this now, but I certainly reserve the right to mail in my check next year should the months without football lower my level of anger at the complete and under incompetence I have witnessed this year. I disagree. By buying and renewing my seats, I'm saying that I support the Akron Zips, the student athletes, and the community they represent. As a Zips fan, not alumn, I'm interested in doing my part to help ensure that student athletes that choose to compete under the colors and logo of our Zips have a good college experience. That's what this is about. Withdrawing support of the student athletes because of an administrative decision with which one disagrees undermines everything I believe it means to be a fan. It's not a product. It's not professional sports .. and the student athletes don't owe me anything other than an honest effort to compete to the best of their ability and represent UA and the Zips in a manner befitting our community. I don't feel ripped off if the team struggles and I don't feel entitled to see specific changes if I choose to keep my seats. I'm a Zips fan. My dad's a Zips fan, my son's a Zips fan. I want to see the Zips succeed. For themselves and UA. NOT for me. The enjoyment I get out of Zips athletic success is a secondary bonus. See you at the games. B) B) Go Zips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 We can't fire iCoach after one season. Any coach, even a coach that some may consider the single worst coach ever hired in D-1 football, deserves, IMHO, at least 3 years. This is simply because UofA would look very bad if we fired iCoach after only one season. A move like that would probably scare off many qualified candidates in our subsequent HC search - other coaches knowing that they've got to turn things around immediately, or face being fired after a single season & before they had a chance to bring in their own recruits & make the program theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipRoo Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Any coach, even a coach that some may consider the single worst coach ever hired in D-1 football... Isn't that just about the most amazing statement you can conceive? UA, with their "nationwide" search, hires a guy that many fans consider the "single worst" possibility EVER? It boggles the mind, actually. However, then we gaze up north and see that many, many Browns fans believe Lerner did the exact same thing, hiring Mangini. And is anyone stepping up to defend Manny Acta's hiring....when Sandy Alomar was clearly the better choice (Toronto sure things so)? Too, the Cavs hired a guy who didn't even understand OFFENSE, when he had the top player in the game. This is clearly a NEO epidemic. Some very short-sighted and poor decisions by men being paid millions of dollars to know better. Which brings us back to Akron's dilemma, "the single worst coach ever hired in D-1 football." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 By buying and renewing my seats, I'm saying that I support the Akron Zips, the student athletes, and the community they represent. As a Zips fan, not alumn, I'm interested in doing my part to help ensure that student athletes that choose to compete under the colors and logo of our Zips have a good college experience. That's what this is about. Withdrawing support of the student athletes because of an administrative decision with which one disagrees undermines everything I believe it means to be a fan. It's not a product. It's not professional sports .. and the student athletes don't owe me anything other than an honest effort to compete to the best of their ability and represent UA and the Zips in a manner befitting our community. I don't feel ripped off if the team struggles and I don't feel entitled to see specific changes if I choose to keep my seats. I'm a Zips fan. My dad's a Zips fan, my son's a Zips fan. I want to see the Zips succeed. For themselves and UA. NOT for me. The enjoyment I get out of Zips athletic success is a secondary bonus. See you at the games. B) B) Go Zips! I think you are a mortal lock to have the first-ever sweep of both Basketball AND Football Fan of the Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 However, then we gaze up north and see that many, many Browns fans believe Lerner did the exact same thing, hiring Mangini. And is anyone stepping up to defend Manny Acta's hiring....when Sandy Alomar was clearly the better choice (Toronto sure things so)? Too, the Cavs hired a guy who didn't even understand OFFENSE, when he had the top player in the game. This is clearly a NEO epidemic. Some very short-sighted and poor decisions by men being paid millions of dollars to know better. You forgot the Lake Erie Monster's coach, that guy wouldn't know a dump pass from a dump truck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronad Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 By buying tickets next year you are saying that you support...Browns fans do it year in and year out, why can't Zips fans? And how's that worked out for Browns fans? Support your team win or lose. That is a true fan. I couldn't have said it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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