Zips Win! Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Well, at least I think we can all agree that tonight's attendance was pathetic. I know I'm merely preaching to the choir on this message board, but attendance of a whopping 2,716 at a school of roughly 30,000 students, for a premiere mid major match up like this? You've got to be kidding me. The student body's support of this team is a freaking joke. Give UA 'fans' one reason not to show...game on STO, expect a small crowd. Give them a second reason...game scheduled an evening before a holiday..expect a pathetic crowd. Yes, the student body support is a joke. However, the alumni support is even worse. How many of the 2,716 will be back after losing yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips Win! Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Sheesh... My favorite Non-Sequitors: "Build it and they will come" Infocision and Football "Show up at games and they will win (or at least play harder/better)" Ignorant Zips Fans with no clue The truth: "Win consistantly against name opponents and then they will come and you can build it." Examples: Butler, Gonzaga, TCU, Boise State, "Lose to CSU or Arkansas Pine Tree and beat Milliken, then don't be surprised when nobody cares." Gets my vote for quotes of the year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I saw this one coming as soon as the AK-Rowdies starting chanting that the fans sucked. A few points: 1) If you're going to call out the lower level fans, you first have to look at yourself as a group. The crowd was quiet throughout the game, including the Rowdies. The number of chants were limited. Sure, they stood the whole game...but for the most part you were just talking some lame smack to the CSU players and the referees. Watch a game of a team with great student support - the chants are continual throughout the game, not just sprinkled through here and there. Once you do that, feel free to call everyone else out. 2) When you're chanting "terrorist" at players who appear to have Muslim-descent, I'm not going to join you in anything. That was disgusting and embarrassing to UA. I wish I could say this was the first time the Rowdies embarrassed UA. You could also get more creative than the tired-and-cliched "referee is blind" jokes. 3) The lower level fans are certainly too quiet, but at least they are coming to the games. Where were all the AK-Rowdies? When are you guys going to show up for a game other than Can't or the football home opener? (And by show up, I mean more than 30-40 of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mes102 Posted November 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 A lot of the Rowdies want to yell and cheer and everything, but the problem is that the "outsider" rowdies don't want to do that and just watch the game so they sit in the wooden bleachers above....they get away with it at soccer, because there is so many...thats the problem...we saw that last sunday, because the noisemakers made almost all the noise. Now we can use them, and we realize that most of them don't care... I'm not even wearing the soccer head this sunday like I usually would....It's off for this sunday to yell at the goalie, and cheer as much as I can... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 There was a minute and a half left in the game, we have ball...the rowdies try chanting "stand up"... no one did it...we miss the shot, and then CSU scores... Some of you think that the soccer and basketball teams aren`t playing with a killer instinct...i wonder why...they have NO motivation because fans like we had in the reserved sections DID NOT stand up for the most important/crucial part of the game...this was on STO and the fans did not do their part....if this keeps happening, Can't will beat us twice again this year and so will ohio...and soccer will lose this weekend to Indiana... Sure, Dambrot will say in the postgame that the atmosphere is great...but he HAS to say that...or you fans will boycott and not come... If the atmosphere never changes, by doing the simple things to keep this team motivated, then all this program will be is what it is now... I loved that cheer. I was very disappointed when no one heeded the Rowdies call. But don't give up. Keep on keeping on. The team needs you to! (I was in upper GA & I stood up ) There is a culture issue here. I took a friend to the game last night, and walking from the parking deck to the JAR he noted, "Pretty somber crowd for a basketball game." He noticed that the crowd of people we were walking with weren't even talking much amongst themselves, let alone shouting "ZI - PS!" or something... anything. I don't know what to think about that - and frankly, I was a bit enlightened when my friend made the outsider's observation - being an "insider," I had taken the quiet walk for granted. Maybe something strange is up with UA athletics? And did anyone notice the "Sweetheart of the Night," that Zippy picked out? God bless her many times over, but she must have been 75 years old - sitting in lower reserved. Those sorts of people aren't going to rival the Cameron Crazies anytime soon. For the first time I'm thinking we just need to renovate the JAR - lower the capacity a bit by getting rid of the bleachers & move the upper sections forward by removing the track. If the JAR is that quiet during a game, could you imagine how the limited noise we presently have would absolutely dissipate in a real arena? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted November 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 We're not saying that you have to do the same things the Rowdies are doing...but at least stand up and clap or do something...it's awefully sad when CSU fans were louder than our fans the whole game.... I'm sorry...but what happened to standing up until we make a basket? that's all I'm saying for now until this argument continues...alumni bashing on students, and vice versa... I wouldn't of cared if we would of won or not, I still would of posted this...and why did it take until McClannahan's buzzer beater to send the YSU game to OT for you fans to stand up? Just asking, because I got a text from a couple coaches on the coaching staff I'm on, and one went to Mercyhurst and the other went to WVU...and they asked why was it so quiet against YSU...they were there...and they said that if they had the choice, they would of been standing for the last 2 minutes of that game...they said it was too intense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I went to college a long time ago many miles from Akron. I went to every home basketball game and many away games. We packed the place with students and screamed our guts out all game long. We students never thought to criticize the older, non-students who were much more passive. We didn't need them to join in because we students rocked the joint all by ourselves. UA's problem is not the more reserved older folks who pay good money to be entertained by good basketball. UA's problem is a lack of student support and enthusiasm. UA has more than four times the number of students as the college I attended, but we turned out more students at our home games than UA. Maybe the more reserved older fans at Zips games stand out because there is such a high percentage of them compared to students. Whose fault is that? We never had that problem at my school. The focus should be on filling all the student seats with rabid, screaming students. If you do, I can assure you from personal experience that you will not have to worry about any lack of noise. If you don't, complaining about the passivity of older fans will accomplish absolutely nothing. And on the other hand, this is a good point too. If the soccer Rowdies (or perhaps they're merely students) would come to the JAR the place would be packed and jumping. It's absolutely pathetic if it requires a #1 national ranking to get students out to an athletic event. I understand not wanting to set foot in the Info right now, but the basketball game last night was one of the nation's premier mid-major match ups of the entire season! Why weren't more people there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted November 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I'm just wondering why our best game so far(excluding Millikin), was ON THE ROAD at Dayton...and our 2 games so far that we haven't played well was HOME vs Youngstown State and Cleveland State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I'm a diehard Zips fan, but I just don't know what to do. We always play like A-KRAP, especially when its a decent or good team. I was in the Rowdies cheering stand up, too, but that was a moment of which maybe some more noise would have helped. I'm not going to blame the fans for sitting because every time they go to stand, either a timeout is called, or the opposing team shuts them up. A-krap can never sustain a momentum swing in favor of themselves. It's quite pathetic. I truly hope the talk about those two guys, who are ineligible this year, are the real deal and are ACTUAL athletes. Akron won't make it anywhere unless they somehow find athletes that can play like Norris Cole and Chris Wright. Norris Cole DUNKED ON ZEKE! Zeke didn't really foul him, but that dunk deserved a foul. This is truly embarrassing and I am not going to put anything on the fans until the product on the court doesn't smell like the product in a toilet. Good post. In a few preseason threads I mentioned that I was already more excited about NEXT year than I am about this year - I didn't think we were going to be very good this year. However, our game against Dayton made me think we might have a surprising year THIS YEAR. I'm back to looking forward to next year. I just have my fingers crossed that the two non-qualifiers qualify!!! And you mentioned Norris Cole. That guys great! Did CSU recruit him out of high school? Were we all over that guy's jock trying to get him to come to Akron?! Their guards got into the lane almost anytime they wanted to last night. That's athleticism. We couldn't stop their penetration - AND they could hit from the outside. Once again, as has been a recurring theme since Romeo graduated, we got out-athleted. Oh, and CSU used their athletes to play great defense. We didn't get many easy looks all night long. We'd pass & pass & pass & pass & launch a contested 3. Sometimes we'd hit. They'd run on the inbounds play & make a layup. Not a good formula to get the crowd into the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I can understand the frustration from the students posting here about the passivity problem. I would have been frustrated if I was exposed to that when I was a student. Frustration tends to breed anger, and anger is destructive if not channeled into positive and productive action. I sincerely meant it in a constructive way when I said earlier: The focus should be on filling all the student seats with rabid, screaming students. If you do, I can assure you from personal experience that you will not have to worry about any lack of noise. If you don't, complaining about the passivity of older fans will accomplish absolutely nothing. The student body really needs to take the lead on initiating a constructive solution to the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yazan07 Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 2) When you're chanting "terrorist" at players who appear to have Muslim-descent, I'm not going to join you in anything. This actually happened? Ouch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 My wife and I have often noted that those around us in the decent seats seem much more interested in being seen in the Tommy Lounge rather than be an active supporter of the team. Just an observation. Speaking of the subject. UA charges way, way too much for the lower reserved seats. Say a family of four zip fans wants to go to a couple of games and get the good seats so they can feel like they are part of the game. Well, after a round of pop corn and pepsi they will have about $150 into two hours of entertainment for the night. That does not translate well in todays economy. We are talking major league bucks, for a lack of a better term, mid major basketball. Most other peple in various types of business have cut prices lately but not good ol' UA. We just seem to roll along, status quo and seemingly do not care if people turn out or not. Another thing that helps is giving, yes giving GA tickets to various youngsters and their parents from the local elemantary schools. We used to notice a lot of kids up there a few years ago and it did wonders for the atmosphere. One more thing, I think that the Rowdies who do come, do a fine job. The student base has to be much larger though. Carry on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Norris Cole was actually ready to sign with Walsh University and one of Water's assistants knew of Norris and suggested to him to sign Cole. The rest is history. Cole is truly a diamond in the rough. http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-spor...mer-771591.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Norris Cole was actually ready to sign with Walsh University and one of Water's assistants knew of Norris and suggested to him to sign Cole. The rest is history. Cole is truly a diamond in the rough. http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-spor...mer-771591.html Wow! Congrats on that one - he's an outstanding ball player! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 2) When you're chanting "terrorist" at players who appear to have Muslim-descent, I'm not going to join you in anything. This actually happened? Ouch... Yep...I was disgusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 And on the other hand, this is a good point too. If the soccer Rowdies (or perhaps they're merely students) would come to the JAR the place would be packed and jumping. It's absolutely pathetic if it requires a #1 national ranking to get students out to an athletic event. I understand not wanting to set foot in the Info right now, but the basketball game last night was one of the nation's premier mid-major match ups of the entire season! Why weren't more people there? The same group of students are the ones who make the noise at soccer games. The difference is that at soccer all the other students are packed in around them, and so join in every once in a while. You don't get that effect in the JAR with seating arrangements the way they are. Unify the student section and you'll see a much stronger student presence, and it might even encourage more students to show up. This is a major issue for the atmosphere of basketball games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 And on the other hand, this is a good point too. If the soccer Rowdies (or perhaps they're merely students) would come to the JAR the place would be packed and jumping. It's absolutely pathetic if it requires a #1 national ranking to get students out to an athletic event. I understand not wanting to set foot in the Info right now, but the basketball game last night was one of the nation's premier mid-major match ups of the entire season! Why weren't more people there? The same group of students are the ones who make the noise at soccer games. The difference is that at soccer all the other students are packed in around them, and so join in every once in a while. You don't get that effect in the JAR with seating arrangements the way they are. Unify the student section and you'll see a much stronger student presence, and it might even encourage more students to show up. This is a major issue for the atmosphere of basketball games. exactly, those little seating sections behind the hoops do nothing. Kick the old people out of the blue seats and give it to the students! But I understand they want to give the good seats to the people who actually pay to watch the games. Another option would be to make all the students sit behind the hoops, in the lower blue seats and bleachers. Just like at Infocision where they have the "Arby's Student Section" ...or you know they kick the band out. Move them up to the bleachers where they are supposed to be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yazan07 Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 ...or you know they kick the band out. Move them up to the bleachers where they are supposed to be! The band cheers just as much as the rest of the students. Just because we are wearing polos intead of AK-ROWDIES shirts doesn't mean we don't belong on the floor. If the band is cheering, then why should we be displaced? We have about 30-40 members, adding 30-40 ROWDIES isn't going to change the atmosphere. I agree there is a problem with the way the JAR is set up, but stop acting like it's the band's fault or that we could change the situation. All this aside, you can't put a drum set in the bleachers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandzip Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 ...or you know they kick the band out. Move them up to the bleachers where they are supposed to be! Yeah, because then a hundred more students would show up and there would be no empty seats.... Let's use some common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 ...or you know they kick the band out. Move them up to the bleachers where they are supposed to be! Yeah, because then a hundred more students would show up and there would be no empty seats.... Let's use some common sense. Hey, btw, the UA drumline performance @ halftime was GREAT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 ...or you know they kick the band out. Move them up to the bleachers where they are supposed to be! Yeah, because then a hundred more students would show up and there would be no empty seats.... Let's use some common sense. They wouldn't show up to sit below. That's why the student section needs moved, as well. Either have the band expand and take up one entire section behind the basket and put reserved seating behind the other, or move the band upstairs and have reserved behind both baskets. Students should take up (and be required to sit only in) the three sections closest to the opposing bench. If you took all the students that are spread out through the GA seating and combined them with the Rowdies, you would have a fairly large student section. Plus the non-Rowdy students might make more noise if they aren't surrounded by grumpy old people who frown on being excited. Students should NOT be allowed to sit sparsely throughout GA seating. They should be concentrated together like at the Info where they can only sit in a designated area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 1) If you're going to call out the lower level fans, you first have to look at yourself as a group. The crowd was quiet throughout the game, including the Rowdies. The number of chants were limited. Sure, they stood the whole game...but for the most part you were just talking some lame smack to the CSU players and the referees. Watch a game of a team with great student support - the chants are continual throughout the game, not just sprinkled through here and there. Once you do that, feel free to call everyone else out. You are out of your mind if you think that the Rowdies weren't going the entire time. I was down there right on the north side, we were cheering and supporting the Zips as well as harassing the CSU players and officials THE ENTIRE TIME. What is the point of the student section other than getting in opponents heads? That's the general fan populations job, and you guys failed...miserably. It's stupid to argue when we are all fans of the same thing but the truth is, many of you have no idea what college basketball is or is about. 2) When you're chanting "terrorist" at players who appear to have Muslim-descent, I'm not going to join you in anything. That was disgusting and embarrassing to UA. I wish I could say this was the first time the Rowdies embarrassed UA. You could also get more creative than the tired-and-cliched "referee is blind" jokes. Not true in any way. The truth of the matter is, we did research on players before the game and he is not muslim at all (seen his facebook). The terrorist comment comes from his beard as well as the fact that he went as Osama Bin Laden for Halloween. It's on his facebook. 3) The lower level fans are certainly too quiet, but at least they are coming to the games. Where were all the AK-Rowdies? When are you guys going to show up for a game other than Can't or the football home opener? (And by show up, I mean more than 30-40 of you. I think many people answered this one with the excuse that the scheduling is horrible. Most people went home for the holidays. What moron scheduled a game the night before thanksgiving? I was pretty impressed with the student turnout compared to some games in recent years on thanksgiving break. Overall though, you are right. Student support sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 ...or you know they kick the band out. Move them up to the bleachers where they are supposed to be! The band cheers just as much as the rest of the students. Just because we are wearing polos intead of AK-ROWDIES shirts doesn't mean we don't belong on the floor. If the band is cheering, then why should we be displaced? We have about 30-40 members, adding 30-40 ROWDIES isn't going to change the atmosphere. I agree there is a problem with the way the JAR is set up, but stop acting like it's the band's fault or that we could change the situation. All this aside, you can't put a drum set in the bleachers. I wont argue that the band doesn't cheer. But for every band member, there are two seats taken up. Let's move them up top and put them in their section and let more people down there. It will help ...i guarantee it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 I'm just wondering why our best game so far(excluding Millikin), was ON THE ROAD at Dayton...and our 2 games so far that we haven't played well was HOME vs Youngstown State and Cleveland State I think it may be that the gap between the Horizon League and the MAC is expanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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