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It's been a week now since the Zips became NCAA champions. Has it sunk in for you? Do you better understand the implications?

Very few schools outside the BCS have won a championship in any sport since the NCAA established Division I in 1973. This opens the door for us. Not many schools win just one championship, which means that winning one makes it more likely that you can win more in the future.

Like some of the players said, this is important for more than just the men's Soccer program. It needs to inspire the other Zips teams to perform, and show them that it is possible to win as a Zip. The most immediate benefit would be for the Women's Soccer program, I would imagine, since they get the shared benefit of the stadium and the reputation of Akron as a "soccer school" to boost recruiting.

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Winning the tourney sunk in pretty quick for me. It seems common that when a team comes real close but comes up short, the next time there just seems to be some extra wind in the sails. Then when you survive a challenge in the mid-rounds, the rest falls in place. The first one is definitely the hardest. The implications are taking a little more time to digest, but they will be far-reaching. Whatever else happens, we have a team :NCAAC: trophy that potential recruits in all sports need to be walked past. CP is re-signed. We got some Barley House love & respect. A lot of people are going to have to deal with looking at my AKRON ZIPS Nat'l Champs T-shirt :P Yes, this is big.

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Winning the tourney sunk in pretty quick for me. It seems common that when a team comes real close but comes up short, the next time there just seems to be some extra wind in the sails. Then when you survive a challenge in the mid-rounds, the rest falls in place. The first one is definitely the hardest. The implications are taking a little more time to digest, but they will be far-reaching. Whatever else happens, we have a team :NCAAC: trophy that potential recruits in all sports need to be walked past. CP is re-signed. We got some Barley House love & respect. A lot of people are going to have to deal with looking at my AKRON ZIPS Nat'l Champs T-shirt :P Yes, this is big.

I only recently "joined" the program (nephew will be on the squad next year) but have to say I'm incredibly impressed with the outpouring of support. It's clear that the area embraces the team and vice versa. I can't wait to catch my first game at LJF then head over to the Barley House (we went there when we were visiting schools with him..the sweet potato fries are a work of art) and celebrate. Here's to 2010 and an even better 2011!!!!

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It's been a week now since the Zips became NCAA champions. Has it sunk in for you? Do you better understand the implications?

Very few schools outside the BCS have won a championship in any sport since the NCAA established Division I in 1973. This opens the door for us. Not many schools win just one championship, which means that winning one makes it more likely that you can win more in the future.

Like some of the players said, this is important for more than just the men's Soccer program. It needs to inspire the other Zips teams to perform, and show them that it is possible to win as a Zip. The most immediate benefit would be for the Women's Soccer program, I would imagine, since they get the shared benefit of the stadium and the reputation of Akron as a "soccer school" to boost recruiting.

Yes, it has sunk in.

No, I do not better understand the implications.

To demonstrate what a pioneer Akron is consider that we were competing in Division 1 soccer in the 1960s, years before you claim the division was created! All other Akron U (yes I said it) sports were in Division 2 at that time.

I would be interested in knowing your definition of "very few."

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It's been a week now since the Zips became NCAA champions. Has it sunk in for you? Do you better understand the implications?

Very few schools outside the BCS have won a championship in any sport since the NCAA established Division I in 1973. This opens the door for us. Not many schools win just one championship, which means that winning one makes it more likely that you can win more in the future.

Like some of the players said, this is important for more than just the men's Soccer program. It needs to inspire the other Zips teams to perform, and show them that it is possible to win as a Zip. The most immediate benefit would be for the Women's Soccer program, I would imagine, since they get the shared benefit of the stadium and the reputation of Akron as a "soccer school" to boost recruiting.

Yes, it has sunk in.

No, I do not better understand the implications.

To demonstrate what a pioneer Akron is consider that we were competing in Division 1 soccer in the 1960s, years before you claim the division was created! All other Akron U (yes I said it) sports were in Division 2 at that time.

I would be interested in knowing your definition of "very few."

In the 1960s, there was the University Division and the College Division. Akron soccer competed in the University Division, other sports were in the College Division. The NCAA doesn not allow split-divisional institutions any more. D-I was created in 1973, along with D-II and D-III. D-I was created mostly from the University Division, and so kept the records.

For an old guy, you sure don't know much about history. :wave:

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In the 1960s, there was the University Division and the College Division. Akron soccer competed in the University Division, other sports were in the College Division. The NCAA doesn not allow split-divisional institutions any more. D-I was created in 1973, along with D-II and D-III. D-I was created mostly from the University Division, and so kept the records.

For an old guy, you sure don't know much about history. :wave:

Zach, I'm not sure you know exactly what you're talking about. I believe that Hartwick competes in Division I [Men's] soccer, but is D-III for everything else. Perhaps I don't understand what you mean by "The NCAA doesn't not allow split-divisional institutions any more." Perhaps you should check your facts, especially ones close to home [MAC], before making"old guy" comments to anyone. :rolleyes:

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Yes, it has, and I believe Caleb is going to do for Zips soccer what J. Wooden did for UCLA basketball, and what the guy at U conn is doing for their women's basketball! :screwks::champs::NCAAC:

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In the 1960s, there was the University Division and the College Division. Akron soccer competed in the University Division, other sports were in the College Division. The NCAA doesn not allow split-divisional institutions any more. D-I was created in 1973, along with D-II and D-III. D-I was created mostly from the University Division, and so kept the records.

For an old guy, you sure don't know much about history. :wave:

Zach, I'm not sure you know exactly what you're talking about. I believe that Hartwick competes in Division I [Men's] soccer, but is D-III for everything else. Perhaps I don't understand what you mean by "The NCAA doesn't not allow split-divisional institutions any more." Perhaps you should check your facts, especially ones close to home [MAC], before making"old guy" comments to anyone. :rolleyes:

Certain schools are grandfathered in from before the divisions were set up. Hartwick is one of them.

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It's been a week now since the Zips became NCAA champions. Has it sunk in for you? Do you better understand the implications?

Very few schools outside the BCS have won a championship in any sport since the NCAA established Division I in 1973. This opens the door for us. Not many schools win just one championship, which means that winning one makes it more likely that you can win more in the future.

Like some of the players said, this is important for more than just the men's Soccer program. It needs to inspire the other Zips teams to perform, and show them that it is possible to win as a Zip. The most immediate benefit would be for the Women's Soccer program, I would imagine, since they get the shared benefit of the stadium and the reputation of Akron as a "soccer school" to boost recruiting.

Yes, it has sunk in.

No, I do not better understand the implications.

To demonstrate what a pioneer Akron is consider that we were competing in Division 1 soccer in the 1960s, years before you claim the division was created! All other Akron U (yes I said it) sports were in Division 2 at that time.

I would be interested in knowing your definition of "very few."

In the 1960s, there was the University Division and the College Division. Akron soccer competed in the University Division, other sports were in the College Division. The NCAA doesn not allow split-divisional institutions any more. D-I was created in 1973, along with D-II and D-III. D-I was created mostly from the University Division, and so kept the records.

For an old guy, you sure don't know much about history. :wave:

You couldn't be more wrong, but I am willing to place a small wager on the matter. How much can you afford to lose?

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Hmmmm, I don't know how much the Mens soccer program will help the women. Currently, the lady zips are ranked 183 in the nation. I would imagine the only thing which will help them is them. As far as the other sports, Mens basketball absolutely should have won the MAC last year, and they won it the year before. And recruiting for football must be a nightmare around here, OSU, Michigan, Penn State all within spitting distance. If the new stadium couldn't lift up our football team, will our soccer team really do it?

It is still so cool that we won this, not putting down the great accomplishment, just saying. Perhaps the soccer team may bring the basketball team up to the next level?

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Hmmmm, I don't know how much the Mens soccer program will help the women. Currently, the lady zips are ranked 183 in the nation. I would imagine the only thing which will help them is them. As far as the other sports, Mens basketball absolutely should have won the MAC last year, and they won it the year before. And recruiting for football must be a nightmare around here, OSU, Michigan, Penn State all within spitting distance. If the new stadium couldn't lift up our football team, will our soccer team really do it?

It is still so cool that we won this, not putting down the great accomplishment, just saying. Perhaps the soccer team may bring the basketball team up to the next level?

Two important results of the soccer team's success:

1. all members of the Akron gun squad have vowed to squint harder when aiming. This should result in fewer spectator injuries.

2. both Akron golf teams are encouraging the Rowdies to attend matches with vuvuzelas. This should result in higher scores for opponents and more spectator injuries.

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Off the top of my head, dayton is DII or DIII football, but DI bball. Duquesne is DI bball but non-scholarship football.

Dayton is D-I for football, but they do not offer scholarships. They play in the Pioneer League.

Duquesne plays in the NEC for football, which is moving towards allowing around 40 scholarships.

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Off the top of my head, dayton is DII or DIII football, but DI bball. Duquesne is DI bball but non-scholarship football.

Better have the top of your head examined. To start the process, google ""dayton rule" football"

don't feel bad, this "rule" is part of Zach's confusion.

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