Zips vs. OSU 9-3-2011

[johnnyzip84]

I said i will never give iCoach a chance. But the reality is that I adamantly believe that he will never give me a chance to believe in his abilities. I can't see him ever leading the team to more than a single win per season at best. How can I give him a chance when he won't win?

I don't have a reply. I just wanted to make sure you couldn't go back and edit this absurd statement.

[GP1]

I said i will never give iCoach a chance. But the reality is that I adamantly believe that he will never give me a chance to believe in his abilities. I can't see him ever leading the team to more than a single win per season at best. How can I give him a chance when he won't win?

Last year I said it would be impossible to go 0-12 because of how bad the mac is. I was right. Granted, we came in right under the gun, but we still won a game.I don't believe we will lose to a I-AA team two years in a row as it would be like losing 12 games. With teams like EMU and Buffalo, we SHOULD have two more wins. Throw in Can't State as they are what they are. CMU isn't what they used to be. Maybe we catch that Florida team asleep on a trip to Akron. Anything can happen. At a the very least, we should win four. A little confidence and momentum and we win more. At the end of the day, everything is up to the coaches and players. All of this is possible, they just need to get the job done. The mac is terrible and we should take advantage of that fact. I'm not ready to write off another season mid July.

[UAZipster0305]

You seem awfully confident about that POTENTIAL win over VMI, GP1. Remember last season when we lost to a mediocre Garner-Webb program at home? I'll take wins when they happen, but I don't see any games with this team guaranteed until they prove otherwise. After last season, how could you?

If we can't beat VMI, we'll lose 11 again.

I am so thankful that we have EMU scheduled again. If we got WMU, CMU, and NIU, I would be worried about 0-12. Even I think we can win one game though. I think we go 3-9 giving the NEO sports fans enough encouragement and the "give iCoach a chance to build" crowd enough satisfaction to perpetuate mediocrity. Note: 3-9 is no better than JD's worst season.Against OSU, I have us losing 35-14 with a 17-7ish halftime score and most UA fans thinking, if only X fumble or Y pass/penalty had gone our way, we'd be in this or could/would win.

What record this would make you change your mind about ICoach?? I think you are one of his biggest detractors and I am interested in what you think would be acceptable. Zach has already said he will NEVER give him a chance. I am not trying to defend him...the jury is still out for me. I have yet to decide and withhold any critisism until after this year. But I am curious what it would take (record wise) to turn around some of the biggest detractors.

Given how weak the MAC and our schedule are, I need to see 5-7 this year, 7-5 the next, and 10-4 the year after with a MACC. I want to be proven wrong by iCoach, but I am not expecting a lot.I think I have said it before, but only a male lion comes into a new pride and kills the cubs. There was no excuse to have so many defectors because of iCoach's my way or the highway approach. That is terrible leadership! Losing to a mediocre I-AA program at home and only winning one game the entire season were both huge steps backwards too. We are/were the laughing stock of I-A football. A duplicate performance this season and I am calling for his head.He is branded as a recruiter, and I wasn't overly impressed with his recruiting class or the realistic future prospects. If that is the guy's strength, what do I have to be optimistic about?Do I think it was time for JD to go? Yes, but at least JD took the program to a place it hadn't been before. With our facilities, anything less than that from iCoach is unacceptable.And GP1, as much as I hate to say it, I don't see us beating Can't this year. Again, I would love to be proven wrong, but I'm sticking to my 3-9 prediction: VMI, EMU, and Buffalo.

[K92]

Ianello was brought in as a recruiter. The one thing he had on his resume. He is constantly being criticized for the job he's done so far in this area, but I gotta tell ya, recruiting does not occur in a vacuum folks. He has been top half in the MAC recruiting kids into a program that had, WITHOUT QUESTION, badly deteriorated under JD, then was BLOWN UP by RI. Top half recruiting has got to be looked at as a small victory. How deluded are you as a fan if you think that "master recruiter" Rob Ianello is going to step in at Akron and immediately start recruiting the class of the MAC straight out of the gate? Welcome to the real world. What does RI have to sell other than facilities and the chance to start right away?And please, don't start listing, AGAIN, all of his mistakes, shortcomings, and character flaws. We are all painfully aware of them. I am no Rob Ianello apologist, but ripping him for recruiting at this point is premature to say the least.

[Aaron]

I agree that OSU's offense might struggle slightly, but I don't see us putting up points on what is typically a solid defense (and isn't changed much). I think it will be 35-3, with OSU pulling in the reins mid-3rd qtr.I really hope I'm wrong.

[K92]

My previous post is not meant to simply respond to Trimmy's statement about recruiting. I like Trimmy10 and I like reading his posts. I am frustrated. I am frustrated with the football team that 25 years into the transition from I-AA is still experiencing growing pains. South Florida started from SCRATCH in 1997. That is a painful comparison. I am as pissed off as anybody about our situation. I am tired of the constant process of rebuilding. I realize that Rob Ianello's performance so far is lackluster. Makes a poor performance worse when you have no rapport with the fan base, either. Rob hasn't done much to endear himself to the fan through his personality which digs his hole a little deeper as well.But one thing I do hope he realizes is that it is imperative that the Zips must beat Can't. A mediocre or even bad Zips team that beats Can't is night and day different from one that doesn't. There is absolutely no excuse to lose to them. There is no excuse for last year's loss. To me, the 0-1 record against a shitty Can't team is more upsetting than the 1-11 overall. Losing to them at home this year is not going to cut it. Rob better realize how much a victory in that game will gain him and how much a loss will damn him. Beating them should be a given.

[Zipgrad01]

My previous post is not meant to simply respond to Trimmy's statement about recruiting. I like Trimmy10 and I like reading his posts. I am frustrated. I am frustrated with the football team that 25 years into the transition from I-AA is still experiencing growing pains. South Florida started from SCRATCH in 1997. That is a painful comparison. I am as pissed off as anybody about our situation. I am tired of the constant process of rebuilding. I realize that Rob Ianello's performance so far is lackluster. Makes a poor performance worse when you have no rapport with the fan base, either. Rob hasn't done much to endear himself to the fan through his personality which digs his hole a little deeper as well.But one thing I do hope he realizes is that it is imperative that the Zips must beat Can't. A mediocre or even bad Zips team that beats Can't is night and day different from one that doesn't. There is absolutely no excuse to lose to them. There is no excuse for last year's loss. To me, the 0-1 record against a shitty Can't team is more upsetting than the 1-11 overall. Losing to them at home this year is not going to cut it. Rob better realize how much a victory in that game will gain him and how much a loss will damn him. Beating them should be a given.

Who says that he hasnt done a hell of a job as a recruiter? Look at some of the youth that has been added to this team and the promise that they have shown already...1. Jawon Chisholm - looks like he has all-mac talent2. Anthony Holmes - Going to be a very solid db...all mac potential3. Tyler Williams - Is going to be the most explosive player the zips have had in over a decade.4. Antoine Russell - Showed flashes as a true freshman and I think he will be much improved this year.5. Nick Rossi - a top 10 ILB recruit in the nation.6. Keith Sconiers - Another highly touted receiver that looks like the real deal.7. Zack D'Orazio - Another solid athlete that looked damn good in the spring for being a freshman.8. Nico Caponi - Solid D line player as a freshman and played well this spring.9. John Griggs - His video looks like he is a long, lean and explosive pass rusher unlike we have seen at UA in a while.10. Andrew Bohan - Solid and well rated OL that played well in both of the post season all star games against very high talent.11. Clayton Moore - SEC talent that is very intriguing and adds much needed depth to the position.12. Kyle Pohl - Another highly touted young QB that looked the part in the All Star game.While we aren't sure how all of these guys will end up, I have a lot of hope compared to many of the other classes. I see this young talent infusion helping us win a few games this year. Once recruits see the program going in the right direction the sky is the limits. I am excited.

[Zipsrifle]

I give RI to the end of the season to prove to me if he is the guy or not. I think 4 wins is the minimum for me. Now, if we barely win 4 and get blown out in the remaining games, that doesn't cut it. We made progress last season, but it was a bit slower than what I was hoping. I'm willing to accept some rebuilding pains IF we can build a solid program that wins over the long term. As for the OSU game, I think we get blown out, lets's say 52-17. Luke Fickell has his dream job and has one season to lock it down. I don't think he'll let it get close if he can help it. I'm still on the fence as to if I'm going to the game in Columbus....

[ZachTheZip]

My previous post is not meant to simply respond to Trimmy's statement about recruiting. I like Trimmy10 and I like reading his posts. I am frustrated. I am frustrated with the football team that 25 years into the transition from I-AA is still experiencing growing pains. South Florida started from SCRATCH in 1997. That is a painful comparison. I am as pissed off as anybody about our situation. I am tired of the constant process of rebuilding. I realize that Rob Ianello's performance so far is lackluster. Makes a poor performance worse when you have no rapport with the fan base, either. Rob hasn't done much to endear himself to the fan through his personality which digs his hole a little deeper as well.But one thing I do hope he realizes is that it is imperative that the Zips must beat Can't. A mediocre or even bad Zips team that beats Can't is night and day different from one that doesn't. There is absolutely no excuse to lose to them. There is no excuse for last year's loss. To me, the 0-1 record against a shitty Can't team is more upsetting than the 1-11 overall. Losing to them at home this year is not going to cut it. Rob better realize how much a victory in that game will gain him and how much a loss will damn him. Beating them should be a given.

Who says that he hasnt done a hell of a job as a recruiter? Look at some of the youth that has been added to this team and the promise that they have shown already...1. Jawon Chisholm - looks like he has all-mac talent2. Anthony Holmes - Going to be a very solid db...all mac potential3. Tyler Williams - Is going to be the most explosive player the zips have had in over a decade.4. Antoine Russell - Showed flashes as a true freshman and I think he will be much improved this year.5. Nick Rossi - a top 10 ILB recruit in the nation.6. Keith Sconiers - Another highly touted receiver that looks like the real deal.7. Zack D'Orazio - Another solid athlete that looked damn good in the spring for being a freshman.8. Nico Caponi - Solid D line player as a freshman and played well this spring.9. John Griggs - His video looks like he is a long, lean and explosive pass rusher unlike we have seen at UA in a while.10. Andrew Bohan - Solid and well rated OL that played well in both of the post season all star games against very high talent.11. Clayton Moore - SEC talent that is very intriguing and adds much needed depth to the position.12. Kyle Pohl - Another highly touted young QB that looked the part in the All Star game.While we aren't sure how all of these guys will end up, I have a lot of hope compared to many of the other classes. I see this young talent infusion helping us win a few games this year. Once recruits see the program going in the right direction the sky is the limits. I am excited.

8 of those guys haven't played a single down in a college game. According to your list, only four players that Ianello has recruited to the Zips have contributed in a meaningful way despite the team being supposedly so devoid of talent when he took over that you would think that every single incoming freshman would have earned a starting spot.

[Zipgrad01]

My previous post is not meant to simply respond to Trimmy's statement about recruiting. I like Trimmy10 and I like reading his posts. I am frustrated. I am frustrated with the football team that 25 years into the transition from I-AA is still experiencing growing pains. South Florida started from SCRATCH in 1997. That is a painful comparison. I am as pissed off as anybody about our situation. I am tired of the constant process of rebuilding. I realize that Rob Ianello's performance so far is lackluster. Makes a poor performance worse when you have no rapport with the fan base, either. Rob hasn't done much to endear himself to the fan through his personality which digs his hole a little deeper as well.But one thing I do hope he realizes is that it is imperative that the Zips must beat Can't. A mediocre or even bad Zips team that beats Can't is night and day different from one that doesn't. There is absolutely no excuse to lose to them. There is no excuse for last year's loss. To me, the 0-1 record against a shitty Can't team is more upsetting than the 1-11 overall. Losing to them at home this year is not going to cut it. Rob better realize how much a victory in that game will gain him and how much a loss will damn him. Beating them should be a given.

Who says that he hasnt done a hell of a job as a recruiter? Look at some of the youth that has been added to this team and the promise that they have shown already...1. Jawon Chisholm - looks like he has all-mac talent2. Anthony Holmes - Going to be a very solid db...all mac potential3. Tyler Williams - Is going to be the most explosive player the zips have had in over a decade.4. Antoine Russell - Showed flashes as a true freshman and I think he will be much improved this year.5. Nick Rossi - a top 10 ILB recruit in the nation.6. Keith Sconiers - Another highly touted receiver that looks like the real deal.7. Zack D'Orazio - Another solid athlete that looked damn good in the spring for being a freshman.8. Nico Caponi - Solid D line player as a freshman and played well this spring.9. John Griggs - His video looks like he is a long, lean and explosive pass rusher unlike we have seen at UA in a while.10. Andrew Bohan - Solid and well rated OL that played well in both of the post season all star games against very high talent.11. Clayton Moore - SEC talent that is very intriguing and adds much needed depth to the position.12. Kyle Pohl - Another highly touted young QB that looked the part in the All Star game.While we aren't sure how all of these guys will end up, I have a lot of hope compared to many of the other classes. I see this young talent infusion helping us win a few games this year. Once recruits see the program going in the right direction the sky is the limits. I am excited.

8 of those guys haven't played a single down in a college game. According to your list, only four players that Ianello has recruited to the Zips have contributed in a meaningful way despite the team being supposedly so devoid of talent when he took over that you would think that every single incoming freshman would have earned a starting spot.

Thanks captain negative. Do you really want me to write a 30 player list? I could have added freshman from last year like ShelDon Miller, Austin Bailey, Jamar Williams or Richard Hall, but I chose to keep the list short and sweet to the ones that I think have the highest ceiling.

[K92]

Which is more important to an Ianello hater? Rob's failure, so they can be right? -or- The Zips winning?

[Buckzip]

My previous post is not meant to simply respond to Trimmy's statement about recruiting. I like Trimmy10 and I like reading his posts. I am frustrated. I am frustrated with the football team that 25 years into the transition from I-AA is still experiencing growing pains. South Florida started from SCRATCH in 1997. That is a painful comparison. I am as pissed off as anybody about our situation. I am tired of the constant process of rebuilding. I realize that Rob Ianello's performance so far is lackluster. Makes a poor performance worse when you have no rapport with the fan base, either. Rob hasn't done much to endear himself to the fan through his personality which digs his hole a little deeper as well.But one thing I do hope he realizes is that it is imperative that the Zips must beat Can't. A mediocre or even bad Zips team that beats Can't is night and day different from one that doesn't. There is absolutely no excuse to lose to them. There is no excuse for last year's loss. To me, the 0-1 record against a shitty Can't team is more upsetting than the 1-11 overall. Losing to them at home this year is not going to cut it. Rob better realize how much a victory in that game will gain him and how much a loss will damn him. Beating them should be a given.

Who says that he hasnt done a hell of a job as a recruiter? Look at some of the youth that has been added to this team and the promise that they have shown already...1. Jawon Chisholm - looks like he has all-mac talent2. Anthony Holmes - Going to be a very solid db...all mac potential3. Tyler Williams - Is going to be the most explosive player the zips have had in over a decade.4. Antoine Russell - Showed flashes as a true freshman and I think he will be much improved this year.5. Nick Rossi - a top 10 ILB recruit in the nation.6. Keith Sconiers - Another highly touted receiver that looks like the real deal.7. Zack D'Orazio - Another solid athlete that looked damn good in the spring for being a freshman.8. Nico Caponi - Solid D line player as a freshman and played well this spring.9. John Griggs - His video looks like he is a long, lean and explosive pass rusher unlike we have seen at UA in a while.10. Andrew Bohan - Solid and well rated OL that played well in both of the post season all star games against very high talent.11. Clayton Moore - SEC talent that is very intriguing and adds much needed depth to the position.12. Kyle Pohl - Another highly touted young QB that looked the part in the All Star game.While we aren't sure how all of these guys will end up, I have a lot of hope compared to many of the other classes. I see this young talent infusion helping us win a few games this year. Once recruits see the program going in the right direction the sky is the limits. I am excited.

8 of those guys haven't played a single down in a college game. According to your list, only four players that Ianello has recruited to the Zips have contributed in a meaningful way despite the team being supposedly so devoid of talent when he took over that you would think that every single incoming freshman would have earned a starting spot.

Thanks captain negative. Do you really want me to write a 30 player list? I could have added freshman from last year like ShelDon Miller, Austin Bailey, Jamar Williams or Richard Hall, but I chose to keep the list short and sweet to the ones that I think have the highest ceiling.

Is Hall still on the team?

[Zipgrad01]

My previous post is not meant to simply respond to Trimmy's statement about recruiting. I like Trimmy10 and I like reading his posts. I am frustrated. I am frustrated with the football team that 25 years into the transition from I-AA is still experiencing growing pains. South Florida started from SCRATCH in 1997. That is a painful comparison. I am as pissed off as anybody about our situation. I am tired of the constant process of rebuilding. I realize that Rob Ianello's performance so far is lackluster. Makes a poor performance worse when you have no rapport with the fan base, either. Rob hasn't done much to endear himself to the fan through his personality which digs his hole a little deeper as well.But one thing I do hope he realizes is that it is imperative that the Zips must beat Can't. A mediocre or even bad Zips team that beats Can't is night and day different from one that doesn't. There is absolutely no excuse to lose to them. There is no excuse for last year's loss. To me, the 0-1 record against a shitty Can't team is more upsetting than the 1-11 overall. Losing to them at home this year is not going to cut it. Rob better realize how much a victory in that game will gain him and how much a loss will damn him. Beating them should be a given.

Who says that he hasnt done a hell of a job as a recruiter? Look at some of the youth that has been added to this team and the promise that they have shown already...1. Jawon Chisholm - looks like he has all-mac talent2. Anthony Holmes - Going to be a very solid db...all mac potential3. Tyler Williams - Is going to be the most explosive player the zips have had in over a decade.4. Antoine Russell - Showed flashes as a true freshman and I think he will be much improved this year.5. Nick Rossi - a top 10 ILB recruit in the nation.6. Keith Sconiers - Another highly touted receiver that looks like the real deal.7. Zack D'Orazio - Another solid athlete that looked damn good in the spring for being a freshman.8. Nico Caponi - Solid D line player as a freshman and played well this spring.9. John Griggs - His video looks like he is a long, lean and explosive pass rusher unlike we have seen at UA in a while.10. Andrew Bohan - Solid and well rated OL that played well in both of the post season all star games against very high talent.11. Clayton Moore - SEC talent that is very intriguing and adds much needed depth to the position.12. Kyle Pohl - Another highly touted young QB that looked the part in the All Star game.While we aren't sure how all of these guys will end up, I have a lot of hope compared to many of the other classes. I see this young talent infusion helping us win a few games this year. Once recruits see the program going in the right direction the sky is the limits. I am excited.

8 of those guys haven't played a single down in a college game. According to your list, only four players that Ianello has recruited to the Zips have contributed in a meaningful way despite the team being supposedly so devoid of talent when he took over that you would think that every single incoming freshman would have earned a starting spot.

Thanks captain negative. Do you really want me to write a 30 player list? I could have added freshman from last year like ShelDon Miller, Austin Bailey, Jamar Williams or Richard Hall, but I chose to keep the list short and sweet to the ones that I think have the highest ceiling.

Is Hall still on the team?

No idea. I asked about this on another thread.

[Dr Z]

Which is more important to the Ianello hater?

Rob's failure, so he/she thinks he/she can be right.PS Nice list Zipgrad01.

[ZachTheZip]

Which is more important to the Ianello hater?

Rob's failure, so he/she thinks he/she can be right.PS Nice list Zipgrad01.

The Zips winning is the most important thing. Of course, that won't actually happen until Ianello fails his way out of a job and we get a competent replacement.

[Doug Snyder]

Which is more important to the Ianello hater?

Rob's failure, so he/she thinks he/she can be right.PS Nice list Zipgrad01.

The Zips winning is the most important thing. Of course, that won't actually happen until Ianello fails his way out of a job and we get a competent replacement.

Zach....1. You have stated (repeatedly and emphatically) that ICoach is incompetent and cannot win2. You have stated that the coaches are weak...no qualified coach would work under ICoach.3. You have stated (repeatedly and emphatically) that ICoach is failing in recruiting and we have inferior players.Now...here is what I am wondering....and hoping to see. If the Zips start winning...who will you give credit to?? It is not the coaches...not the players. Who will be left?? I am rooting hard for the Zips as I always do. But I want to see how you try to spin your way out of the corner you have painted yourself in.I had a good laugh when you made your prognostication for this year. If I am not wrong...it was 2-3 games and you thought they would be worse than last year. When someone pointed out that they only won one game you stated that they should be compared to 3-9 as they should have won 2 games if they had an adequate kicker. I think you said that almost anyone on the street could have kicked better and won those games. The thing is....you gave him no credit last year for possible games won. But now you want to give him credit for those games to make the comparison more difficult.I like you...I really do. You are young, passionate and willing to do some work. As an employer...those are REALLY good qualities. But because you build the facts to support what you believe… that would cause me to never hire you. I always ask prospective employees I interview to give me an example where their research/analysis provided an answer that was opposed to the prevailing thought (or desired outcome) or if they did research that changed their point of view on a project/issue. I am afraid you would not fare well. My point is this....learn to be not be so rigid in your viewpoints and make less controversial statements...or you better always be right. You are young...my hope is that you mature quickly. It seems you have great potential. But many here ignore you because you lost credibility. It is like Manny Ramirez “Manny being Manny”. Here…you look at who wrote the post and say “oh..just Zach”. Just remember...perception is reality. You will dispute this now...but you won't later.Sorry for preaching. I don’t know you and we have never met. But you seem like a good kid. (so was Manny by the way)

[Big Zip]

iCoach has done nothing to engage the fan base (the very few of us) and I feel like those of you who coming down on the people who don't like iCoach are forgetting last year. Do you remember how bad this team was last year. I've watched a lot of Zips football 20+ years of it and I haven't seen anything that bad during that time. I'm hopeful the guy will turn this thing around, but I'm not sure last year gave me much confidence this guy is the guy. I look at other programs we should be way ahead of and it pisses me off.By the way count me as one who believe Can't will beat us again this year. Heck they beat us last year and it wasn't enough to save their coach's job. I know it doesn't mean anything, but it does give fans a sense of things to come when a coach lands recruits during the early signing period. Can't has three an o-lineman (Elyria), kicker (Aurora) and wide receiver/db (Madison). A lot of other MAC schools have early commits and I saw this morning on www.ohio.com that at least someone is coming for an unofficial visit a 5'11 205 lb linebacker -- hope he is quick and can play DB.

[GP1]

iCoach has done nothing to engage the fan base (the very few of us) and I feel like those of you who coming down on the people who don't like iCoach are forgetting last year.

I blame that more on the Athletic Department than the coach. Personally, I'm not interested in getting to know any coach. I just want to watch the games and see some winning.One of the assumptions being made on this board is the coach is going to do everything this year exactly the same as last year. I don't think he will...If he does, he should be fired. If he does some things differently and players execute better, there is no reason why this team can't win at least four games. It's the MAC for crying out loud.It's July. I'd like to hold on to some hope for a couple more months.

[ndzeigler]

My previous post is not meant to simply respond to Trimmy's statement about recruiting. I like Trimmy10 and I like reading his posts. I am frustrated. I am frustrated with the football team that 25 years into the transition from I-AA is still experiencing growing pains. South Florida started from SCRATCH in 1997. That is a painful comparison. I am as pissed off as anybody about our situation. I am tired of the constant process of rebuilding. I realize that Rob Ianello's performance so far is lackluster. Makes a poor performance worse when you have no rapport with the fan base, either. Rob hasn't done much to endear himself to the fan through his personality which digs his hole a little deeper as well.But one thing I do hope he realizes is that it is imperative that the Zips must beat Can't. A mediocre or even bad Zips team that beats Can't is night and day different from one that doesn't. There is absolutely no excuse to lose to them. There is no excuse for last year's loss. To me, the 0-1 record against a shitty Can't team is more upsetting than the 1-11 overall. Losing to them at home this year is not going to cut it. Rob better realize how much a victory in that game will gain him and how much a loss will damn him. Beating them should be a given.

Who says that he hasnt done a hell of a job as a recruiter? Look at some of the youth that has been added to this team and the promise that they have shown already...1. Jawon Chisholm - looks like he has all-mac talent2. Anthony Holmes - Going to be a very solid db...all mac potential3. Tyler Williams - Is going to be the most explosive player the zips have had in over a decade.4. Antoine Russell - Showed flashes as a true freshman and I think he will be much improved this year.5. Nick Rossi - a top 10 ILB recruit in the nation.6. Keith Sconiers - Another highly touted receiver that looks like the real deal.7. Zack D'Orazio - Another solid athlete that looked damn good in the spring for being a freshman.8. Nico Caponi - Solid D line player as a freshman and played well this spring.9. John Griggs - His video looks like he is a long, lean and explosive pass rusher unlike we have seen at UA in a while.10. Andrew Bohan - Solid and well rated OL that played well in both of the post season all star games against very high talent.11. Clayton Moore - SEC talent that is very intriguing and adds much needed depth to the position.12. Kyle Pohl - Another highly touted young QB that looked the part in the All Star game.While we aren't sure how all of these guys will end up, I have a lot of hope compared to many of the other classes. I see this young talent infusion helping us win a few games this year. Once recruits see the program going in the right direction the sky is the limits. I am excited.

8 of those guys haven't played a single down in a college game. According to your list, only four players that Ianello has recruited to the Zips have contributed in a meaningful way despite the team being supposedly so devoid of talent when he took over that you would think that every single incoming freshman would have earned a starting spot.

Thanks captain negative. Do you really want me to write a 30 player list? I could have added freshman from last year like ShelDon Miller, Austin Bailey, Jamar Williams or Richard Hall, but I chose to keep the list short and sweet to the ones that I think have the highest ceiling.

Is Hall still on the team?

No idea. I asked about this on another thread.

I saw Richard on campus the summer and spoke with him briefly. Seems like he is on the team.

[Buckzip]

Whenever you have a new coaching staff the first season usually suffers. Coaches are learning players, players are learning coaches and new systems are implemented. I think we will have a good read on Coach I this season. If the team isn't vastly improved then a change maybe needed. I don't only mean vastly improved as far as w-l record. I mean being competitive. Even if we lose a lot of games but are competitive that is an improvement. This school has too much invested in the new facilities and stadium to not be taking advantage of the benefits they offer.

[Captain Kangaroo]

1. Jawon Chisholm - looks like he has all-mac talent2. Anthony Holmes - Going to be a very solid db...all mac potential3. Tyler Williams - Is going to be the most explosive player the zips have had in over a decade.4. Antoine Russell - Showed flashes as a true freshman and I think he will be much improved this year.5. Nick Rossi - a top 10 ILB recruit in the nation.6. Keith Sconiers - Another highly touted receiver that looks like the real deal.7. Zack D'Orazio - Another solid athlete that looked damn good in the spring for being a freshman.8. Nico Caponi - Solid D line player as a freshman and played well this spring.9. John Griggs - His video looks like he is a long, lean and explosive pass rusher unlike we have seen at UA in a while.10. Andrew Bohan - Solid and well rated OL that played well in both of the post season all star games against very high talent.11. Clayton Moore - SEC talent that is very intriguing and adds much needed depth to the position.12. Kyle Pohl - Another highly touted young QB that looked the part in the All Star game.

I like your thoughts, and I'm not trying to be a dick here, but I think many of these points have a counter-point:1. Jawon Chisholm - looks like he has all-mac talentMaybe Ianello's best recruit thus far. While I've never seen him play, everything points to him being the real deal.2. Anthony Holmes - Going to be a very solid db...all mac potentialMaybe. Too soon to say. 3. Tyler Williams - Is going to be the most explosive player the zips have had in over a decade.I've watched his all star games, and he looks great amongst some very highly-touted BCS recruits. He could win us some games with his kick return ability alone.4. Antoine Russell - Showed flashes as a true freshman and I think he will be much improved this year.He'll need to improve. I didn't see many flashes last season. 5. Nick Rossi - a top 10 ILB recruit in the nation.Excited about him. I dream of having TWO Brian Wagner's at LB this season.6. Keith Sconiers - Another highly touted receiver that looks like the real deal.He'll need to improve. I didn't see many flashes last season.7. Zack D'Orazio - Another solid athlete that looked damn good in the spring for being a freshman.Brookhart recruit. 8. Nico Caponi - Solid D line player as a freshman and played well this spring.Brookhart recruit.9. John Griggs - His video looks like he is a long, lean and explosive pass rusher unlike we have seen at UA in a while.A lot of Brookhart recruits had great videos...and then disappeared. I gotta wait a while before I put Griggs on any top-recruit lists.10. Andrew Bohan - Solid and well rated OL that played well in both of the post season all star games against very high talent.I agree he has a lot of potential. And we really need OL's.11. Clayton Moore - SEC talent that is very intriguing and adds much needed depth to the position.Agreed. Nicely needs pushed...and Ianello needs a quality fall-back option if Nicely falters. Rogers never fit that bill.12. Kyle Pohl - Another highly touted young QB that looked the part in the All Star game.Time will tell. It's tough to grade a coach's recruits when said coach has a re'sume' of only 2 classes. And 1 season played. Hopefully our OL is decent, some WR's emerge (BIG question mark), Williams scores us 4 or 5 special teams TD's and Chisolm is the real deal. That's 5 wins, and I'm a believer.

[K92]

A Richard Hall sighting is definitely good news. Thanks for the update, ndzippy.

[Lee Adams]

As it turns out for the Zips,this may be the worst time to catch OSU. They will have all the pent up energy of the off season and will want to come out to prove something against an inferior opponent. OSU will find it real level 3-4 games into the season.

[Dr Z]

As it turns out for the Zips,this may be the worst time to catch OSU. They will have all the pent up energy of the off season and will want to come out to prove something against an inferior opponent. OSU will find it real level 3-4 games into the season.

I've heard/read a lot of Zip fans say/write this, and I have even thought it myself. BUT a quick turnover, 3 and out, some kind of score on them should take all that "pent up energy" away from them. Momentum is crazy in football. He!!, it might even work in our favor if something positive happens for us early, they might start questioning themselves if they can win without the vest and the suspended kids. Granted, there is probably about a single digit percentage of this happening, but it could.

[GP1]

As it turns out for the Zips,this may be the worst time to catch OSU. They will have all the pent up energy of the off season and will want to come out to prove something against an inferior opponent. OSU will find it real level 3-4 games into the season.

I've heard/read a lot of Zip fans say/write this, and I have even thought it myself. BUT a quick turnover, 3 and out, some kind of score on them should take all that "pent up energy" away from them. Momentum is crazy in football. He!!, it might even work in our favor if something positive happens for us early, they might start questioning themselves if they can win without the vest and the suspended kids. Granted, there is probably about a single digit percentage of this happening, but it could.

I like where you are going with this DrZ. Maybe on the other side of the ball from tous there will be a team that got their teeth kicked in the year before and is sick of hearing about it and thinking about it. Maybe the Zips will come out MORE fired up than tosu.