Quickzips Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I've never seen so much speculation and discussion regarding something so worthless and irrelevant. You clearly don't watch many cable TV news programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I've never seen so much speculation and discussion regarding something so worthless and irrelevant. You clearly don't watch many cable TV news programs. Damn, I was going to mention something about Colin Cowpaddy, but when you mention cable TV... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I've never seen so much speculation and discussion regarding something so worthless and irrelevant. Do you remember the old parking at the Rubber Bowl discussions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I've never seen so much speculation and discussion regarding something so worthless and irrelevant. Discussing the Zips preseason ranking is worthless and irrelevant? It happens every year on ZN.O about every sport. Similar discussions are going on right now in the football and soccer forums. You got a case of the grumps about this one for any reason in particular? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 You got a case of the grumps about this one for any reason in particular? I think everyone had a case of the Mondays yesterday. The market was down 513 and it doesn't look any better today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I've never seen so much speculation and discussion regarding something so worthless and irrelevant. Other than speculation about future ratings, rankings, and potential performace, what else are we going to discuss on here in August? We've already seen how much fun the political threads are. However, this can't be said enough and there is no debate to be made: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 However, this can't be said enough and there is no debate to be made: I hold this truth to be self-evident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 You got a case of the grumps about this one for any reason in particular? I think everyone had a case of the Mondays yesterday. The market was down 513 and it doesn't look any better today. Sending my sympathy to all members of the investor class, from those of us in the working class. And one other thing that should be made clear. Akron Zips: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 #90. Seems about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 #90. Seems about right. Seems wrong to me. Number two in the MAC? Behind the Golden Felons? And where is Western Mich with five returning starters? Behind let's Ball State? Surely (and don't call me Shirley) WMU is not number one. Or, are they? The Felons out of the top 144? Not likely. So, this writer picks the Felons over the loaded Zips. He is completely wrong. Gilliam is in no way going to play at the small forward. Chauncey is a big two guard in a big line up. Harney has the small forward spot. At least the writer/evaluator has Diggs as the do it right sixth man. But, not for the right reasons. Quincey could well start. In fact, he may. In fact, Q will start some games. But, at the wing guard where his height and skills make him more valuable. Jumping up to number ninety might seem a far stretch to some, but, it falls short in my eyes. NIT? That is not the goal of these kids. Sweet sixteen or better is the goal. You all heard Tree. Truth is, both Akron and the Felons could end up in the NCAA tourney. And, I would not count out a rarer than rare third MAC bid. The conference is about to have a great season. Yeah, yeah, like I know anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 #90. Seems about right. Seems wrong to me. Number two in the MAC? Behind the Golden Felons? And where is Western Mich with five returning starters? Behind let's Ball State? Surely (and don't call me Shirley) WMU is not number one. Or, are they? The Felons out of the top 144? Not likely. So, this writer picks the Felons over the loaded Zips. He is completely wrong. Gilliam is in no way going to play at the small forward. Chauncey is a big two guard in a big line up. Harney has the small forward spot. At least the writer/evaluator has Diggs as the do it right sixth man. But, not for the right reasons. Quincey could well start. In fact, he may. In fact, Q will start some games. But, at the wing guard where his height and skills make him more valuable. Jumping up to number ninety might seem a far stretch to some, but, it falls short in my eyes. NIT? That is not the goal of these kids. Sweet sixteen or better is the goal. You all heard Tree. Truth is, both Akron and the Felons could end up in the NCAA tourney. And, I would not count out a rarer than rare third MAC bid. The conference is about to have a great season. Yeah, yeah, like I know anything. Living in Bali Indonesia doesn't allow for the use of recreational drugs as it is a Muslim nation and has rather strict drug laws. But now that I am in the USofA for a while...I would like to try some of what you are using. Do you mind sharing?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Improving from last season's final season RPI of #101 to this projected #90 is not a giant leap. It represents basically a 10% improvement, which is certainly a realistic prediction -- at least as long as you're not a major optimist or pessimist. Can't finished the season with an RPI of #67, which was substantially higher than the Zips. So the Golden Felons could slide 10% down in the preseason projections and still be ahead of the Zips. In other words, RPI may be a good measurement of total season accomplishments, but not necessarily so accurate on which teams tend to peak at the end of the season. I was at least somewhat impressed with the writer's knowledge of the Zips' situation this season. He didn't get it all right, at least from our perspective. But he at least showed some knowledge of who to expect to perform this season. I'm sure that few national journalists would go so far out on a limb as to predict great things from a relative unknown (on the national scene) freshman like Nick Harney. So, all in all, I have no problem at all with a somewhat optimistic 10% improvement over last season's final RPI for the Zips, nor do I have a problem with Can't being ranked higher. The key point is that the preseason expectations for the Zips vs. Can't are going to be higher at the beginning of this season than the final RPI from last season. That, folks, is called progress. Now we just have to make sure that we knock off the Felons when it counts most this season -- in the MAC tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Districtballer Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Improving from last season's final season RPI of #101 to this projected #90 is not a giant leap. It represents basically a 10% improvement, which is certainly a realistic prediction -- at least as long as you're not a major optimist or pessimist. Can't finished the season with an RPI of #67, which was substantially higher than the Zips. So the Golden Felons could slide 10% down in the preseason projections and still be ahead of the Zips. In other words, RPI may be a good measurement of total season accomplishments, but not necessarily so accurate on which teams tend to peak at the end of the season. I was at least somewhat impressed with the writer's knowledge of the Zips' situation this season. He didn't get it all right, at least from our perspective. But he at least showed some knowledge of who to expect to perform this season. I'm sure that few national journalists would go so far out on a limb as to predict great things from a relative unknown (on the national scene) freshman like Nick Harney. So, all in all, I have no problem at all with a somewhat optimistic 10% improvement over last season's final RPI for the Zips, nor do I have a problem with Can't being ranked higher. The key point is that the preseason expectations for the Zips vs. Can't are going to be higher at the beginning of this season than the final RPI from last season. That, folks, is called progress. Now we just have to make sure that we knock off the Felons when it counts most this season -- in the MAC tournament. I agree with this. You graduate a bunch of seniors and have a lot of unknowns coming in. Obviously those of you close to the program have a better idea than those outside of it, but to expect national publications to expect you to make a huge leap given what you've lost from the team that you had last year is unrealistic. Preseason rankings are for losers anyway. It's the one at the end of the season that matters. You guys have a shot at making some noise and if you do, everyone is going to know who you are, ranked or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Improving from last season's final season RPI of #101 to this projected #90 is not a giant leap. It represents basically a 10% improvement, which is certainly a realistic prediction -- at least as long as you're not a major optimist or pessimist. Can't finished the season with an RPI of #67, which was substantially higher than the Zips. So the Golden Felons could slide 10% down in the preseason projections and still be ahead of the Zips. In other words, RPI may be a good measurement of total season accomplishments, but not necessarily so accurate on which teams tend to peak at the end of the season. I was at least somewhat impressed with the writer's knowledge of the Zips' situation this season. He didn't get it all right, at least from our perspective. But he at least showed some knowledge of who to expect to perform this season. I'm sure that few national journalists would go so far out on a limb as to predict great things from a relative unknown (on the national scene) freshman like Nick Harney. So, all in all, I have no problem at all with a somewhat optimistic 10% improvement over last season's final RPI for the Zips, nor do I have a problem with Can't being ranked higher. The key point is that the preseason expectations for the Zips vs. Can't are going to be higher at the beginning of this season than the final RPI from last season. That, folks, is called progress. Now we just have to make sure that we knock off the Felons when it counts most this season -- in the MAC tournament. I agree with this. You graduate a bunch of seniors and have a lot of unknowns coming in. Obviously those of you close to the program have a better idea than those outside of it, but to expect national publications to expect you to make a huge leap given what you've lost from the team that you had last year is unrealistic. Preseason rankings are for losers anyway. It's the one at the end of the season that matters. You guys have a shot at making some noise and if you do, everyone is going to know who you are, ranked or not. +1. In the eyes of the various distant national publications, I'm surprised they expect us to even be a .500 team after graduating 3 (basically) 4-year starters plus our backup center. The posters here on ZNO are much more informed than a national publication could realistically be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Districtballer Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/2143Can't State comes in at #64 on this list. There's some bulletin board material for your guys for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxpayer Posted September 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Can't State comes in at #64 on this list. No one said it was going to be easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Just for a little perspective:Can't is rated #64 here and finished last season #67 in RPI, so these folks project Can't to improve by 3 positions.Zips are rated #90 here and finished last season #101 in RPI, so the projection is for Zips to improve by 11 positions.The Zips are going to have to do more than win the MAC tournament to get rated higher than Can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxpayer Posted September 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 I know the home schedule isn't too impressive, however the schedule looks tough to me. Here's what this years team will be facing so far:#140 Ball State (2)#131 Valparaiso - OCC tournament#120 Dayton#110 Miami Redskins (2)#73 Marshall#64 Cant State#62 Duquesne - OCC tournament#60 Detroit? Unknow opponent at Valparaiso OCCVCU, Mississippi State & Cleveland State should be appearing soon on this list. That would put almost half of this years opponents in the top 144. It's a challenging schedule, we need to stay healthy and mature quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Districtballer Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I know the home schedule isn't too impressive, however the schedule looks tough to me. Here's what this years team will be facing so far:#140 Ball State (2)#131 Valparaiso - OCC tournament#120 Dayton#110 Miami Redskins (2)#73 Marshall#64 Cant State#62 Duquesne - OCC tournament#60 Detroit? Unknow opponent at Valparaiso OCCVCU, Mississippi State & Cleveland State should be appearing soon on this list. That would put almost half of this years opponents in the top 144. It's a challenging schedule, we need to stay healthy and mature quickly.VCU comes in at #52 and #3 in the CAA: http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/2204 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxpayer Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Here's what this years team will be facing so far: #140 Ball State (2) #131 Valparaiso - OCC tournament #120 Dayton #110 Miami Redskins (2) #73 Marshall #64 Cant State #62 Duquesne - OCC tournament #60 Detroit #52 VCU #51 Mississippi State per todays College Sport Madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdZip Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Fran Fraschilla says Ohio Bobcats are poised to make a deep run in the tourney this year. Have they popped up on this Top 144? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Fran Fraschilla says Ohio Bobcats are poised to make a deep run in the tourney this year. Have they popped up on this Top 144? Link shows nothing but the headline. Can you cut and post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Link shows nothing but the headline. Can you cut and post? Its a video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Late in the video Fran Chinchilla talked about his interview with coach Wally Whacky of FootFungus U. Coach Whacky assured Chinchilla that the Itches would be present in the Final Four. This guy has all the creds of a doormat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Fran Fraschilla says Ohio Bobcats are poised to make a deep run in the tourney this year. Have they popped up on this Top 144? OU isn't going anywhere until they find some resemblance of a frontcourt. Ivo Baltic is their only serviceable "big man". Beyond that they are D.J. Cooper and not much else. Don't get me wrong, Cooper is a heck of a PG, but he can't do it all himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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