Dave in Green Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Yeah, my brother-in-law Hilltopper knows me too well. He knows I was kidding about the billboard, and he went along with the joke. Everyone knows the old saying about words being cheap, and I figured the big talkers here were too cheap to get together and spring for a billboard. But, seriously, Zip Watcher made some seriously good points. We're all frustrated as heck that the Zips can't turn the corner and start beating at least the weakest of the FBS teams they're facing. People can say some pretty wild things when they're frustrated, which reminds me of my late father frequently reminding me as a kid to keep my mouth shut when I got frustrated and try to think things out before engaging my mouth. I'll throw out a thought I haven't seen mentioned. It's pure speculation. But I've seen it happen before in both sports and business, so it's at least a possible scenario here. When UA went looking for a new head football coach, it was with the recent history of the Zips having just had a serious personnel problem that resulted in the mid-season ending of the career of a starting QB. Depending on the depth of the perceived personnel problems, it's possible that UA made the decision to place the highest priority on bringing in a squeaky clean coach. Many of the other potential head football coaches who have been mentioned here over the past couple of years have been involved with dirty programs. UA has obviously put a high priority on hiring and keeping high-character coaches who recruit high-character players in its other sports. Keith Dambrot and Caleb Porter are two good examples of this, and I expect the other UA coaches who I don't know as much about also fit that mold. With all the complaints about Rob Ianello, the one thing no one has tried to accuse him of is being a shady operator. To the contrary, many have criticized him for being nerdy sounding and nerdy looking. So if UA has tasked Ianello with building a squeaky clean program with high-character kids, that's something that takes more time than cutting corners with high-risk, marginal characters who happen to be great athletes. That's one of the reasons why I believe that, despite the poor won-lost record to date, UA will be patient with Ianello putting together a sound program the right way. Ultimately the program is going to have to produce more wins than it has to date. But I think UA knew when they hired Ianello that they were not hiring a quick turnaround guy. That's one of the reasons why I'm willing to be a little more patient than some other fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Look at Laing Kennedy at Can't. He is respected by his peers and he could never turn around the football program. He tried many things including bringing back a famous coach…nothing worked. Turning around a football program is not easy. I have these same exact thoughts Doug. Turning around a football program is really tough. Regardless of what me and you want to believe, we don't have that great of a football tradition at Akron. We have had multiple loosing seasons in a row and our fan support is abbysmal to say the least. Yet we expect Ianello to magically turn things around and start winning out. I never been a coach and i never recruited (or been recruited) before. I do however wonder what would Ianello tell a kid, with other FBS offers, to bring him to Akron? you'll get PT as a freshman? we have a nice stadium? that is all great and nice...but this will only get you to maybe outrecruit the can't states and the eastern michigans of the world. Quality kids will take a "not brand new" but packed stadium at Toledo, Temple, Ohio over an empty brand new one in Akron. They will also accept red shirting a year and maybe not playing their freshman year for the sake of winning and going to bowl games in their remaining years. Why do people feel that if Ianello is replaced by another guy, talented kids will start committing to Akron left and right? Or do you think that if AJ Price had a different coach, he will start catching the ball? or Marchese will be making his kicks? I am not Mrs. Ianello, i do not know the guy and I was not particularly impressed with the hire and I won't be upset if TW fires him tomorrow morning. It is howver foolish and naive to assume that eating his contract will make things better and we will start winning 10 games/year. The grass is not always greener outside your fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 You guys need to look at the positive side of all this. Akron will get a high draft pick next year. Possible #1 overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Speaking of famous quotes, I recall one about where good guys finish. Not that it applies here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Oh, the typing and typing and typing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Oh, the typing and typing and typing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm saving up all my one-liners until I get old and bitter and arthritis sets into my fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Assuming that every sport uses their full scholarship allotment (except football where we know we are under), the athletic department is responsible for the following: Are they full scholarships, or are they partial? I'm looking at the dollar amount, not the total unit number. Football scholarships costs just over $900k. But none of that included room and board, meal plans, or book purchases. Without calculating room and board, meals and books, the real costs aren't being calculated. Please go back and rework the numbers. I'd like this project completed by close of business today. Sorry I'm a day late, boss. Here are the latest numbers. Total student aid costs $4,401,715 and football student aid costs $1,670,766. So 38% of student aid goes to football. In terms of total operating expenses, 27.8% goes toward football. Quite a bit of the athletic department's revenues and expenses don't get reported, it seems, but financial aid is laid out for everyone to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm saving up all my one-liners until I get old and bitter and arthritis sets into my fingers. They say a picture is worth a 1,000 words. You you don't even have to type!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm saving up all my one-liners until I get old and bitter and arthritis sets into my fingers. Hey... aren't you old and bitter now??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 the Big Dialer Nice!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's an old baseball saying -- "The guy was born on 3rd base, but acts like he hit a triple." Actually Cap'n, some of the best baseball quotes come from politics! Can you believe, she wasn't talking about his son? Wow. Ann Richards. One of the original Lee sisters. This seems to tell another story about the quote. I lived in Texas when she was elected. I think she beat a guy by the name of Clayton Williams,'Claytie'.. Good 'Ole boy from west Texas. He had a few screwy ideas about how women should behave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 skip zip OSU will probably will fire thier coach.that's the difference between us.we will probably keep our coach. because we accept losing.TW will use an excuse like we cannot afford to pay his contract.how many d-1football schools would keep a coach that's 2-15.none.except for akron.he would should be gone after the season.we built a 55 million stadium,and just put four milion in the soccer stadium.unless the team has a huge turnaround he should be gone at the end of season. how much money are they losing when no one goes to the games anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 skip zip OSU will probably will fire thier coach.that's the difference between us.we will probably keep our coach. because we accept losing.TW will use an excuse like we cannot afford to pay his contract.how many d-1football schools would keep a coach that's 2-15.none.except for akron.he would should be gone after the season.we built a 55 million stadium,and just put four milion in the soccer stadium.unless the team has a huge turnaround he should be gone at the end of season. how much money are they losing when no one goes to the games anymore. They lose nothing now if no one goes to the games. As long as they can average 14.5K in paid attendance now the problem will be in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 skip zip OSU will probably will fire thier coach.that's the difference between us.we will probably keep our coach. because we accept losing.TW will use an excuse like we cannot afford to pay his contract.how many d-1football schools would keep a coach that's 2-15.none.except for akron.he would should be gone after the season.we built a 55 million stadium,and just put four milion in the soccer stadium.unless the team has a huge turnaround he should be gone at the end of season. how much money are they losing when no one goes to the games anymore. They lose nothing now if no one goes to the games. As long as they can average 14.5K in paid attendance now the problem will be in the future. Are they allegedly averaging 14.5K now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 skip zip OSU will probably will fire thier coach.that's the difference between us.we will probably keep our coach. because we accept losing.TW will use an excuse like we cannot afford to pay his contract.how many d-1football schools would keep a coach that's 2-15.none.except for akron.he would should be gone after the season.we built a 55 million stadium,and just put four milion in the soccer stadium.unless the team has a huge turnaround he should be gone at the end of season. how much money are they losing when no one goes to the games anymore. They lose nothing now if no one goes to the games. As long as they can average 14.5K in paid attendance now the problem will be in the future. Are they allegedly averaging 14.5K now? You betcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 thats good news?.average 14k with a about 5k of people in the stands. a new stadium that seats over 30k is less than half full.you don't think DR.P and rest of the athletic dept don't see the crowds.i would hate to see next year how many people buy season tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 the Big Dialer Nice!!!! ZW I thought you made a rule about feeding the trolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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