Miami Game

[skip-zip]

I think that is worthy of a ban. There is a reason that family members shouldn't visit these boards. She bashes the other QB's non stop, but can't take it when her baby is getting the same treatment. Nicely had 2 years and did nothing. Time for new blood.

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-72Nicely has beaten K.e.n.t. Moore has beaten...no D-1A team. He was 3-18 tonight. He's played 1 decent 1/2 of football the entire season. He needs to see the bench.

If in fact, as you state, Moore has only played one decent half the entire season, but has far surpassed PNs ratings numbers, then doesn't that explain everything we need to painfully remember about how much good football we saw from PN?And we even got another reminder of that in the 2nd half tonight.

[Lance1969]

Talking about giving up, how about your starting RB stepping out of bounds 1yd short of the first down!The ship is sinking and Coach I is clueless on what to do because he has no coaching experience to draw from. Remember he was either a TE or WR Coach, never the Head Coach , which means a MAJOR problem was handled by the Head Coach or OC. Titanic is sinking and the Coach is going to call Charlie Weiss for advise.

[GP1]

Time for new blood.

You said it, and it goes well beyond the QB position, to the entire team. I don't know how many times I texted my brother last night, "They can't do anything."This team is almost completely void of the athletic ability required to compete in the MAC, let alone D-1A. There is simply nothing there. I don't know much about Coach I personally, but this can't continue to go on. Change is going to be needed at the end of the season. If not, this is only going to get worse. There is nothing to this program other than a nice stadium.

[Captain Kangaroo]

If in fact, as you state, Moore has only played one decent half the entire season, but has far surpassed PNs ratings numbers, then doesn't that explain everything we need to painfully remember about how much good football we saw from PN?

I've seen PN7 win games against D-1A teams. I've seem Moore lose every one he's started.I want a chance to win against K.e.n.t. PN7 is our best chance.The hyperbolic clowns on this site will spin that statement to infer I think Nicely is the second coming of Luke Getsy. But, that's why said people are hyperbolic clowns.Start PN7 against K.e.n.t. And if he wins, Buffalo too (he's beaten both teams in the past). Give me a shot at seeing a win in 2011. Not a 4th quarter field goal to close the gap to -32.

[g-mann17]

There were rumblings before this game about things that will take place at seasons end. That kind of embarassment is not helping anything.

[Big Zip]

Cap'n let's be honest -- PN7 has beaten both teams, but the real problem is not the quarterback it is the coaching. Once we are rid of the coaching we can objectively look at this team. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there will be any fans left to see that if Wistricilll insists on keeping iCoach. I'm not against PN7 starting the next game, but you have always been a fan of his to the point where I recall all of us complaining about him last year and you defending him. Maybe both can't play.....maybe we need to see a third quarterback. I am actually at a point where a press conference to see an iCoach firing would be more appealing than a Zips win. This season is lost completely and a win does nothing for us. Another season of iCoach and we may never recover. Oh how I long for the days of Owens and Brookhardt....hell Faust too.

[zipsfan33]

I want to know where they dug up those announcers? I understand they are not gonna send the #1 unit to Oxford, but come on they were actually giving excuses for our poor, poor pitiful team!

[Buckzip]

If in fact, as you state, Moore has only played one decent half the entire season, but has far surpassed PNs ratings numbers, then doesn't that explain everything we need to painfully remember about how much good football we saw from PN?

I've seen PN7 win games against D-1A teams. I've seem Moore lose every one he's started.I want a chance to win against K.e.n.t. PN7 is our best chance.The hyperbolic clowns on this site will spin that statement to infer I think Nicely is the second coming of Luke Getsy. But, that's why said people are hyperbolic clowns.Start PN7 against K.e.n.t. And if he wins, Buffalo too (he's beaten both teams in the past). Give me a shot at seeing a win in 2011. Not a 4th quarter field goal to close the gap to -32.

Not sure who you are addressing this to, but saying both our QB's are bad is fact. Not hyperbole. PN7 won 1 game last year. The QB is not the biggest problem with this team. Coaching is the biggest problem.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Cap'n let's be honest -- PN7 has beaten both teams, but the real problem is not the quarterback it is the coaching. Once we are rid of the coaching we can objectively look at this team. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there will be any fans left to see that if Wistricilll insists on keeping iCoach. I'm not against PN7 starting the next game, but you have always been a fan of his to the point where I recall all of us complaining about him last year and you defending him. Maybe both can't play.....maybe we need to see a third quarterback. I am actually at a point where a press conference to see an iCoach firing would be more appealing than a Zips win. This season is lost completely and a win does nothing for us. Another season of iCoach and we may never recover. Oh how I long for the days of Owens and Brookhardt....hell Faust too.

We are "Mid-1990's K.e.n.t. Bad." Bottom-feeder extraordinaire.Even when Owens took-over Faust's remnants, you could see progress as time rolled on. I see nothing with Ianello. Just horrific, abysmal football.I'm seriously thinking about skipping renewal of my tickets next season. I may travel a bit next fall and check out some games at K.entucky, Pitt, WVA, Maryland and elsewhere. I want to see good football. And a real college game day environment. If Wistercil doesn't want to provide it, he leaves me no choice.Taking your kid to see the Zips get waxed week-after-week sucks. Your kid wears the face paint...jersey, etc. And by mid-2nd quarter of every game, his team is down 3+ scores. Year after year. With no end in sight. You can only take so much...

[phil]

The coaching decisons never cease to amaze me. When the anemic offense finally gets to the Miami 35, down 14 or points, why punt the ball? The ball ended up in the end zone for a net of 15 yards. At best the punt only nets 30 yards.When they did go for it on 4th down on their own 29 yard line, why call the same play that failed on 3rd down and failed to gain a yardl. Not only did they run the same play, they put a man in motion who hesitated at the hole where Akron was running the ball each time they ran the play. Each time the play netted 0 yards.I was hoping Akron would score a touchdown to see if the offense went for 2 being down 30 points. I guess will have to wait for next week.This team is so bad I do not think there is any quick fixes. For those that want to fire the coach, just remember the same guy who picked coach I will be picking the next coach.

[GP1]

I may travel a bit next fall and check out some games at K.entucky, Pitt, WVA, Maryland and elsewhere. I want to see good football. And a real college game day environment.

I don't blame you. My college football experience has been much better since moving from Akron. If Akron was good, it would be different, but that is rarely the case. There are times when I go to a Wake game and I don't care about the fact there are other games being played that day. I don't even think about them. The point is, Winston-Salem is about the same drive from Akron as Lexington. Let me know when you are coming.

[akronad]

Cap'n let's be honest -- PN7 has beaten both teams, but the real problem is not the quarterback it is the coaching. Once we are rid of the coaching we can objectively look at this team. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there will be any fans left to see that if Wistricilll insists on keeping iCoach. I'm not against PN7 starting the next game, but you have always been a fan of his to the point where I recall all of us complaining about him last year and you defending him. Maybe both can't play.....maybe we need to see a third quarterback. I am actually at a point where a press conference to see an iCoach firing would be more appealing than a Zips win. This season is lost completely and a win does nothing for us. Another season of iCoach and we may never recover. Oh how I long for the days of Owens and Brookhardt....hell Faust too.

We are "Mid-1990's K.e.n.t. Bad." Bottom-feeder extraordinaire.Even when Owens took-over Faust's remnants, you could see progress as time rolled on. I see nothing with Ianello. Just horrific, abysmal football.I'm seriously thinking about skipping renewal of my tickets next season. I may travel a bit next fall and check out some games at K.entucky, Pitt, WVA, Maryland and elsewhere. I want to see good football. And a real college game day environment. If Wistercil doesn't want to provide it, he leaves me no choice.Taking your kid to see the Zips get waxed week-after-week sucks. Your kid wears the face paint...jersey, etc. And by mid-2nd quarter of every game, his team is down 3+ scores. Year after year. With no end in sight. You can only take so much...

That's the reason I didn't renew my tickets this season. I saw the writing on the wall. This sucks!!!I have to believe that Dr. P has also seen the same thing. He can't keeping back to money boosters asking for more money when we put a really crappy product on the field. And it starts with the AD & the coach.

[Big Zip]

Cap'n the only thing that will get me to renew my tickets next year is a coaching change. I will spend my time catching some high school football on Friday nights and perhaps a college game or two within driving distance. Last night when Miami was up 21-0 my daughter said "Dad I'm rooting for Miami." She is six years-old and already sick of losing.

[Lee Adams]

If in fact, as you state, Moore has only played one decent half the entire season, but has far surpassed PNs ratings numbers, then doesn't that explain everything we need to painfully remember about how much good football we saw from PN?

I've seen PN7 win games against D-1A teams. I've seem Moore lose every one he's started.I want a chance to win against K.e.n.t. PN7 is our best chance.The hyperbolic clowns on this site will spin that statement to infer I think Nicely is the second coming of Luke Getsy. But, that's why said people are hyperbolic clowns.Start PN7 against K.e.n.t. And if he wins, Buffalo too (he's beaten both teams in the past). Give me a shot at seeing a win in 2011. Not a 4th quarter field goal to close the gap to -32.

It may be too late for a change at QB to make much of a difference now,unfortunately. I was one of the folks who said early that Nicely at least deserved a chance to start at the beginning of the season. A year in the new system and all that. If there wasn't any improvement then Moore gets in. Once again,Nicley played pretty well as a freshman when he got thrown in unexpectedly. They beat Can't with him at QB. Problem now is that it took Ianello almost 2 seasons to realize that neither Nicley nor Moore were suited for the offensive system he wanted to run. So in the middle of season 2 he decides to make changes that probably should have been made during the summer. The players are the ones taking the hit for all of this.Then there is the issue of the bucket of slop that is the defense. Nothing new there.After watching last night the fear is that the some of the players may decide the season has been over for a while and its really time to cash it in. When you go from what we saw in the second half of the CMU game to what we saw last night, we really have to wonder where the leadership is on this team.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Cap'n the only thing that will get me to renew my tickets next year is a coaching change. I will spend my time catching some high school football on Friday nights and perhaps a college game or two within driving distance. Last night when Miami was up 21-0 my daughter said "Dad I'm rooting for Miami." She is six years-old and already sick of losing.

Can you ever envision the Zips eating more than 1 year of a HC contract? If they could make a great hire...a real head-turner...they would easily make up the $350k/yr in Ianello's salary. But no one typically looks deeper than "We're going to pay a guy $350k/yr NOT to coach the Zips? Forget it."The empty stadium and horrific team performance is dragging down the entire University. And I have no faith that Wistercil knows how to fix it. None whatsoever.

[Dave in Green]

I am here to defend the coaching and play of the Zips football team last night......Just joking.One good joke deserves another.

[scottditzen]

I watched this game through some serious beer goggles last night, which was an absolute necessity. +our uniforms looked really good, much much better than the home ones.+defense made several stops at/behind the line of scrimmage...that never happened under oppressive 3-3-5+most in crowded Lakewood Winking Lizard didn't even bother to watch us get embarassed.-attendance was what, 23 people?-who teaches the QB to stand like a tall, rigid, immobile statue with the ball at his ear after the snap? Overcoaching???-this offensive "scheme" has no hope of being effective at any level. It's predictably basic and just terrible.-play calling is mystifying...same play on 3rd AND 4th for NO GAIN? -entire offense glaring at coaches on the sideline for every play should have left town with Brookhardt...it kills all momentum. -how do we make something as simple as completing a pass look more difficult than splitting the atom? -we finally do complete a pass and the play LOSES 11 YARDS. HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?-JC casually running out of bounds a yard short of a 1st down. No fight. -receiver jumps in air, lets ball fly off his chest right to Miami defense. Remember the glory days when getting first down wasn't cause for a standing ovation?

[K92]

Cap'n the only thing that will get me to renew my tickets next year is a coaching change. I will spend my time catching some high school football on Friday nights and perhaps a college game or two within driving distance. Last night when Miami was up 21-0 my daughter said "Dad I'm rooting for Miami." She is six years-old and already sick of losing.

Can you ever envision the Zips eating more than 1 year of a HC contract? If they could make a great hire...a real head-turner...they would easily make up the $350k/yr in Ianello's salary. But no one typically looks deeper than "We're going to pay a guy $350k/yr NOT to coach the Zips? Forget it."The empty stadium and horrific team performance is dragging down the entire University. And I have no faith that Wistercil knows how to fix it. None whatsoever.

Does anybody think this guy has a snowball's chance in Hell of turning this program around? Better yet, specifically, does TW have any confidence left in this guy? If the answer is no...if lead pipe cinch confidence in the process is not there you gotta eat his contract and make a change now. You have the cost of the contract on the one hand and the costs of keeping him on the other, like the lost revenue from the empty seats, the alienation of the fanbase and perhaps the biggest cost of all...If you allow this guy to continue down this road of incompetence, implementing his process and his inept offense, you totally hamstring the next coach, who most certainly will not run the pro set, with a roster loaded with fullbacks and tight ends whose positions will be obsolete.We can't afford to keep betting on a losing hand.Now, attracting that head turner coach that you talk about would be extremely difficult not only because the same AD who hired this guy would be making the decision again, but also because what up-and-comer would want the job?This is a mess of epic proportions.

[tbozeglav]

IF... we eat his contact to get rid of him...IF... we're able to hire a solid coach who can actually do what's needed to win... andIF... iCoach's "stellar recruits" still somehow pan out...it would take another 2 years for anyone to right this ship, minimum. The chances of us bringing in anyone better than what we have now are slim to none simply because we're the worst of the worst. You want tressel? PIPE DREAM. He'd never come to a program like ours when he's got a solid gig working as a consultant for the Colts. Our best shots are trying to pick up a HC from D-2 or lower who's a proven winner.

[you am i]

Cap'n the only thing that will get me to renew my tickets next year is a coaching change. I will spend my time catching some high school football on Friday nights and perhaps a college game or two within driving distance. Last night when Miami was up 21-0 my daughter said "Dad I'm rooting for Miami." She is six years-old and already sick of losing.

Can you ever envision the Zips eating more than 1 year of a HC contract? If they could make a great hire...a real head-turner...they would easily make up the $350k/yr in Ianello's salary. But no one typically looks deeper than "We're going to pay a guy $350k/yr NOT to coach the Zips? Forget it."The empty stadium and horrific team performance is dragging down the entire University. And I have no faith that Wistercil knows how to fix it. None whatsoever.

Does anybody think this guy has a snowball's chance in Hell of turning this program around? Better yet, specifically, does TW have any confidence left in this guy? If the answer is no...if lead pipe cinch confidence in the process is not there you gotta eat his contract and make a change now. You have the cost of the contract on the one hand and the costs of keeping him on the other, like the lost revenue from the empty seats, the alienation of the fanbase and perhaps the biggest cost of all...If you allow this guy to continue down this road of incompetence, implementing his process and his inept offense, you totally hamstring the next coach, who most certainly will not run the pro set, with a roster loaded with fullbacks and tight ends whose positions will be obsolete.We can't afford to keep betting on a losing hand.Now, attracting that head turner coach that you talk about would be extremely difficult not only because the same AD who hired this guy would be making the decision again, but also because what up-and-comer would want the job?This is a mess of epic proportions.

I don't care if the next coach is a "head turner" or someone I never heard of, as long as he turns this program around.And I agree completely that any potential head coach with options is not going to be attracted to this job. Hiring a coach is pretty much a crapshoot under the best of circumstances. At any rate, we have at least one more year of RI, and if we win a few games next year, he'll probably be back the year after that. Because TW has a huge professional interest in RI's success, he will give him every possible opportunity before pulling the plug and admitting that he screwed up.

[Big Zip]

I would kindly ask those that are on this board and frequent it regularly who own season tickets to not renew next year. It will be the only way the University gets the message.

[Captain Kangaroo]

I would kindly ask those that are on this board and frequent it regularly who own season tickets to not renew next year. It will be the only way the University gets the message.

Do you think it would matter if the crowd is 1,789 fans, or 895 fans?If looking at InfoCision on Saturday afternoon, as it stands today, doesn't hit home as an impetus for change, nothing ever will.

[johnnyzip84]

I would kindly ask those that are on this board and frequent it regularly who own season tickets to not renew next year. It will be the only way the University gets the message.

Do you think it would matter if the crowd is 1,789 fans, or 895 fans?If looking at InfoCision on Saturday afternoon, as it stands today, doesn't hit home as an impetus for change, nothing ever will.

I agree the pathetic crowds SHOULD be sending a strong signal, but what if the PAID attendance were to drop by something on the order of 50 to 75%? A season ticket boycott would go a long way towards making the latter a reality and that would be even harder for the administration to ignore. I'm not saying I'm definitely there (wanting to decline season tix) yet, but I'm certainly willing to listen. Of course, a coordinated boycott would have much greater effect.

[Captain Kangaroo]

I'm not saying I'm definitely there (wanting to decline season tix) yet, but I'm certainly willing to listen.

Who would have thought fans like us would even entertain the thought of walking away?How could anyone sit through another season of Ole Miss' high, low or batted-down balls, Ianello's mathmatically-challenged deficit-cutting strategies, tumbleweeds in the tailgate lot, swiss cheese defensive line play...

[GP1]

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The gentleman from Green makes some good points here.