Doug Snyder Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I agree with the initial idea…sports are over emphasized. Just my opinion... While I agree this notion is worthy of serious discussion, if I already had concluded that sports are over emphasized, I'm not sure I'd be spending this much time on a fan message board voicing said opinion. Just sayin' Fair point. I was one of the few who attended the games when we were D2. I even dragged friends and family. I will attend the Mount Union game this weekend. I assume it will be sold out or close to it. My point is...sports can be followed avidly by its students and fans without being big time or "over emphasized". Truthfully...football is the real problem. Money corrupts. I hear what you're saying, and it's one of the reasons why I enjoy "MAC level" football. I just prefer for my team to be a little more competitive at it! +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Hey, did I tell you guys about my new gig as a correspondent for an Internet outfit called Football Scoop? I HOPE you folks are going to be disappointed. FIFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 We should start sending Proenza 'Thank You' emails to show him this is the right decision. So if it is only a rumor, he'll feel more compelled to take action. This is called "greasing the skids". I am all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 If we are making a list of potential new head coaches I would like to add the name of... LUKE FICKLE. A man who has weathered a rough storm only to be thrown to the curb by monied power brokers. So far I see Paul Winters and Jim Fleming as well as Luke. All good choices. All football men driven by the desire to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip_ME87 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I saw it in print where Dewey beat Truman. Until it happens…it is just a rumor. It is interesting that we are debating whether sports should be de-emphasized and now we are anxiously spending other peoples money to the tune of 2M and want to can an AD who has had success in every measure except in football. iCoach has been a failure but I do not think we should spend 2M to get rid of him this year. I agree with the initial idea…sports are over emphasized. Just my opinion... You're giving TW too much credit. Caleb Porter, Keith Dambrot, Jodi Kest, ... , almost every other coach besides RI was at UA before TW. I give TW credit for not mucking up success in other sports by over-emphasizing football like was done when Bob Huggins was the Zips Mens Basketball coach, but that's really about all I can give him. BTW, as far as the money, I've heard rumors of someone possibly donating to buy out RI. I have no idea if those rumors are true or if footballscoop.com is correct. However, if both are true, the university may not be on the hook for the amount with which we're all concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I saw it in print where Dewey beat Truman. Until it happens…it is just a rumor. It is interesting that we are debating whether sports should be de-emphasized and now we are anxiously spending other peoples money to the tune of 2M and want to can an AD who has had success in every measure except in football. iCoach has been a failure but I do not think we should spend 2M to get rid of him this year. I agree with the initial idea…sports are over emphasized. Just my opinion... You're giving TW too much credit. Caleb Porter, Keith Dambrot, Jodi Kest, ... , almost every other coach besides RI was at UA before TW. I give TW credit for not mucking up success in other sports by over-emphasizing football like was done when Bob Huggins was the Zips Mens Basketball coach, but that's really about all I can give him. BTW, as far as the money, I've heard rumors of someone possibly donating to buy out RI. I have no idea if those rumors are true or if footballscoop.com is correct. However, if both are true, the university may not be on the hook for the amount with which we're all concerned. People have money they are willing to donate. I believe if this guy (or anyone) did not donate for this purose...we would get the money for something else. So unless it truly is incremental money...UofA will suffer a financial loss and students or other programs will pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 BTW, as far as the money, I've heard rumors of someone possibly donating to buy out RI. I have no idea if those rumors are true or if footballscoop.com is correct. However, if both are true, the university may not be on the hook for the amount with which we're all concerned. If true, wouldn't they want Tom Wistrcill gone as well since they're paying for his HUGE mistake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I saw it in print where Dewey beat Truman. Until it happens…it is just a rumor. It is interesting that we are debating whether sports should be de-emphasized and now we are anxiously spending other peoples money to the tune of 2M and want to can an AD who has had success in every measure except in football. iCoach has been a failure but I do not think we should spend 2M to get rid of him this year. I agree with the initial idea…sports are over emphasized. Just my opinion... You're giving TW too much credit. Caleb Porter, Keith Dambrot, Jodi Kest, ... , almost every other coach besides RI was at UA before TW. I give TW credit for not mucking up success in other sports by over-emphasizing football like was done when Bob Huggins was the Zips Mens Basketball coach, but that's really about all I can give him. BTW, as far as the money, I've heard rumors of someone possibly donating to buy out RI. I have no idea if those rumors are true or if footballscoop.com is correct. However, if both are true, the university may not be on the hook for the amount with which we're all concerned. People have money they are willing to donate. I believe if this guy (or anyone) did not donate for this purose...we would get the money for something else. So unless it truly is incremental money...UofA will suffer a financial loss and students or other programs will pay for it. With Gary Taylor's name all over everything, wouldn't be surprised if he's the possible donor. He spent a lot to have his company's name on the stadium, wouldn't think he likes seeing it empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 If we hire Fickell I'm done with Zips football foever. And all of you will be too, because the program will be run so far into the ground it will pop out of the Indian Ocean as a ball of molten slag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip_ME87 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 BTW, as far as the money, I've heard rumors of someone possibly donating to buy out RI. I have no idea if those rumors are true or if footballscoop.com is correct. However, if both are true, the university may not be on the hook for the amount with which we're all concerned. If true, wouldn't they want Tom Wistrcill gone as well since they're paying for his HUGE mistake? Who knows? Rumors on top of rumors...just as likely that nothing is true. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad1990 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 If this turns out to be true, I may just renew my football season tickets.* If iCoach stays, I won't be renewing. *Depends on the new coach. If I disagree with the hire like I did with iCoach, I will give the new coach at least a year before renewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 If we hire Fickell I'm done with Zips football foever. And all of you will be too, because the program will be run so far into the ground it will pop out of the Indian Ocean as a ball of molten slag. You base your opinion on what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 If we hire Fickell I'm done with Zips football foever. And all of you will be too, because the program will be run so far into the ground it will pop out of the Indian Ocean as a ball of molten slag. You base your opinion on what? Fickell is tainted goods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I have heard that Football Scoop may have additional information posted on Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip_ME87 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I have heard that Football Scoop may have additional information posted on Wednesday. Cool. I love rumors that more rumors are coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I think you folks are going to be disappointed. Do you have access to inside info, or are you just guessing like everyone else? As is now evident from examining Ianello's contract, UA would not likely incur a heavy penalty by releasing him early because it's likely that Ianello would land a well-paid assistant position in a major program that would offset most or all of what UA would owe him over the remaining 3 years of his contract. Based on the Zips' record over the last 2 years, including the most recent team performances, UA would have to have really deep and abiding faith that Ianello is on the verge of a major turnaround next season to keep him in place. I'd be just fine with Ianello as UA's head coach if it were true that a major turnaround is just around the corner. But, like others on this forum, I've seen no evidence to give me deep and abiding faith in that scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I have heard that Football Scoop may have additional information posted on Wednesday. I have heard that whatever Zipmeister has heard simply isn't true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I have heard that Football Scoop may have additional information posted on Wednesday. I have heard that whatever Zipmeister has heard simply isn't true. ME87 has a much better attitude than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I think you folks are going to be disappointed. Do you have access to inside info, or are you just guessing like everyone else? As is now evident from examining Ianello's contract, UA would not likely incur a heavy penalty by releasing him early because it's likely that Ianello would land a well-paid assistant position in a major program that would offset most or all of what UA would owe him over the remaining 3 years of his contract. Based on the Zips' record over the last 2 years, including the most recent team performances, UA would have to have really deep and abiding faith that Ianello is on the verge of a major turnaround next season to keep him in place. I'd be just fine with Ianello as UA's head coach if it were true that a major turnaround is just around the corner. But, like others on this forum, I've seen no evidence to give me deep and abiding faith in that scenario. How much do you think well paid assistants (say recruiting experts) make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA Fan Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 nm, bad joke.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 How much do you think well paid assistants (say recruiting experts) make? There's a pretty big range depending on the school, the exact position, the experience and perceived value of the person, etc. For example, in the Big 12/Big 10, the range is from $92,555 to $900,000. Big 12, Big Ten assistant football coaching salaries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 It is interesting that we are debating whether sports should be de-emphasized and now we are anxiously spending other peoples money to the tune of 2M and want to can an AD who has had success in every measure except in football. . What has he done that's so successful?! Mugged for the camera with championship teams that he had nothing to do with? The Remora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 LUKE FICKLE. A man who has weathered a rough storm only to be thrown to the curb by monied power brokers. So far I see Paul Winters and Jim Fleming as well as Luke. All good choices. All football men driven by the desire to win. LF will remain on staff at OSU when the next coach is hired. Jim Fleming will not be the coach. Paul Winters could be the coach. Lots of guys could be the coach and win, but TW can't be the guy to decide who does that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I think you folks are going to be disappointed. Do you have access to inside info, or are you just guessing like everyone else? As is now evident from examining Ianello's contract, UA would not likely incur a heavy penalty by releasing him early because it's likely that Ianello would land a well-paid assistant position in a major program that would offset most or all of what UA would owe him over the remaining 3 years of his contract. Based on the Zips' record over the last 2 years, including the most recent team performances, UA would have to have really deep and abiding faith that Ianello is on the verge of a major turnaround next season to keep him in place. I'd be just fine with Ianello as UA's head coach if it were true that a major turnaround is just around the corner. But, like others on this forum, I've seen no evidence to give me deep and abiding faith in that scenario. I am pretty sure that he would not be required to accept a position below HC. We would like be on the hook for a few years. Plus all the assistants will likely be let go. And if we listen to the mob...TW must go too. We would be talking probably in the 1-2M range. Reminds me of a famous saying.. "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." I wonder where people think this money will come from?? What should we do if the next hire (surely will not be a big name no brainer) is not successful?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 If we are making a list of potential new head coaches I would like to add the name of... LUKE FICKLE. A man who has weathered a rough storm only to be thrown to the curb by monied power brokers. So far I see Paul Winters and Jim Fleming as well as Luke. All good choices. All football men driven by the desire to win. Good chance he stays on as an assistant on Meyers staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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