skip-zip Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 WHY is STOOPS name even mentioned.. HE GOT FIRED by Arizona..so something must not have been going to good. Why do we want a Coach who has been canned by another University. but WAIT... All the Posts at the beginning of the season were talking about THE LONE RANGER coming in and saving Akron Football. Also how BAD PN7 was. Well it looks like CM8 has fallen flat on his face. At least Nicely was able to beat Buffalo last year. This year he had a TD when he was throw in at the end. Nicely was a great QB in High School..and with the right coaching could really be an asset to the team. RI and RP need to be GONE. Scratch that,, the WHOLE STAFF needs to be gone. Sorry about the death of RIs mother, I lost my dad a few years back. But I have been watching the death of Akron Football every week since RI has been head coach. You GET the right coach,,,things will change. My wifes school down in Texas, SAM HOUSTON STATE. They fired their coach 2 years ago and hired a new one. Where is Sam Houston State now? 11-0 Ranked number 1 in 1AA and heading into the playoffs. Dont give me the BS Coach I,,how you need 5 years to develop a plan. YOU need 5 years to sock the money away that your stealing from Akron, because your sure not worth what your getting paid !!! Are you the poster formerly known as Akron Football by chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 WHY is STOOPS name even mentioned.. HE GOT FIRED by Arizona..so something must not have been going to good. Why do we want a Coach who has been canned by another University. but WAIT... All the Posts at the beginning of the season were talking about THE LONE RANGER coming in and saving Akron Football. Also how BAD PN7 was. Well it looks like CM8 has fallen flat on his face. At least Nicely was able to beat Buffalo last year. This year he had a TD when he was throw in at the end. Nicely was a great QB in High School..and with the right coaching could really be an asset to the team. RI and RP need to be GONE. Scratch that,, the WHOLE STAFF needs to be gone. Sorry about the death of RIs mother, I lost my dad a few years back. But I have been watching the death of Akron Football every week since RI has been head coach. You GET the right coach,,,things will change. My wifes school down in Texas, SAM HOUSTON STATE. They fired their coach 2 years ago and hired a new one. Where is Sam Houston State now? 11-0 Ranked number 1 in 1AA and heading into the playoffs. Dont give me the BS Coach I,,how you need 5 years to develop a plan. YOU need 5 years to sock the money away that your stealing from Akron, because your sure not worth what your getting paid !!! Are you the poster formerly known as Akron Football by chance? *like* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 Are some people still forgetting that Tressel is going to get a coaching ban? And people are speculating that the ban is going to last a significant amount of time? Taking the HC job at Akron is punishment enough. NCAA would give JT a waiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 WHY is STOOPS name even mentioned.. HE GOT FIRED by Arizona..so something must not have been going to good. Why do we want a Coach who has been canned by another University. but WAIT... All the Posts at the beginning of the season were talking about THE LONE RANGER coming in and saving Akron Football. Also how BAD PN7 was. Well it looks like CM8 has fallen flat on his face. At least Nicely was able to beat Buffalo last year. This year he had a TD when he was throw in at the end. Nicely was a great QB in High School..and with the right coaching could really be an asset to the team. RI and RP need to be GONE. Scratch that,, the WHOLE STAFF needs to be gone. Sorry about the death of RIs mother, I lost my dad a few years back. But I have been watching the death of Akron Football every week since RI has been head coach. You GET the right coach,,,things will change. My wifes school down in Texas, SAM HOUSTON STATE. They fired their coach 2 years ago and hired a new one. Where is Sam Houston State now? 11-0 Ranked number 1 in 1AA and heading into the playoffs. Dont give me the BS Coach I,,how you need 5 years to develop a plan. YOU need 5 years to sock the money away that your stealing from Akron, because your sure not worth what your getting paid !!! Comparing the death of one's mother to the death of a football program?? If I would write the words here for what I think, I am sure I wold be banned from this site. And someone who would consider such a thing is not worth getting banned over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 What is it with all this crazy talk of Tressel? ++++ Infinity That's funny! Reminds me of another quote from years past - "Why's everybody talkin bout Joe Frazier" In all seriousness though, any of the guys in this poll, and especially Jim Tressel, would be a HUGE upgrade over what we have now. A brain damaged chimpanzee would be an upgrade over what we have now. Heck, I'd take a Jim Tressel bobblehead doll over what we have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 How many MAC teams have coaches as talented and as prestigious as Jim Tressel? It doesn't matter what you have done, it only matters what you will do. Tressel has no history of success beyond lying and cheating. Where is the evidence that lacking lying and cheating he will win at Akron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipseuph Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 How many MAC teams have coaches as talented and as prestigious as Jim Tressel? It doesn't matter what you have done, it only matters what you will do. Tressel has no history of success beyond lying and cheating. Where is the evidence that lacking lying and cheating he will win at Akron? Again, he did NOTHING that had an impact on th game. Kids sold their personnal stuff and got other free things from people outside of the program (as is pretty much tradition at every other program in the country) NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING JT did had any effect on the game it's self. He didn't pay any kid to come to OSU, he didn't shoot kids up with roids, he didn't steal the other teams playbook, he didn't film the other teams practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 Jim Tressel's biggest sin is his loyalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 How many MAC teams have coaches as talented and as prestigious as Jim Tressel? It doesn't matter what you have done, it only matters what you will do. Tressel has no history of success beyond lying and cheating. Where is the evidence that lacking lying and cheating he will win at Akron? Many people judge coaches based on how they perform in games against similar competition. Most OSWho fans claim that they are "one of the top programs in the country". Yet, their beloved Tressel is 1-5 in his last 6 games against Top-5 teams. He's also been blown out in two recent appearances in national title games. And, as most people will point out, he's one bad pass interference call away from being 0-3 in those title games during his tenure. So, if some of you out there want to applaud this guy for compiling good win totals every year by stacking up victories against a few MAC teams and the lower half of the Big 11 (note last year's 64th ranked SOS), that's your own delusional choice. History is a great indicator of future performance. And there's not many lower ranked teams you can put on your schedule when you are a team at the bottom of the MAC. And now he knowingly played a group of ineligible star players for an entire season? Please. The short term impact of the publicity of his hiring, and his connections, would fade quickly. Then what? Gerry had all of that too. It only takes you so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 So, if some of you out there want to applaud this guy for compiling good win totals every year by stacking up victories against a few MAC teams and the lower half of the Big 11 (note last year's 64th ranked SOS), that's your own delusional choice. I say something similar to my fellow Steelers fans when they tell me what a great coach Cowher was. The guy was no Chuck Noll. Cowher had four easy wins a year against the Browns and Bengals as those franchises were flat on their backs most of his time as coach. When Noll coached, the Bengals, Browns and Oilers were at least good teams most of the time and a road trip to one of those teams was difficult to win. Preceding Tressel, the Big Ten was a much better conferece than it is now and during his tenure. I think it would be harder to lose a game with the schedule Tressel played than to win a game. There is a big difference between illusion and reality. I have always maintained Tressel is an illusionist. If he comes here, his bag of tricks will be empty. Some people are easy to fool. The Great GP1 isn't so easy to fool. Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zip Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 @skip zip you are out of your damn mind to compare Faust to Tressel. Faust failed miserably at Notre Dame and Tressel Is a legend in this state. I hate OSU and even I can see that, as well as the recognition/ Publicity he would bring the program is virtually immeasurable - please don't let your blind hatred for the school or the man cloud your judgement. I wanted the man to get hired at Akron after Faust's departure....he had just completed his third National Championship at YSU if I recall. I don't believe for a minute he is coming here to coach because I can't imagine we would be that fortunate. If Dr. P wanted to make a bold statement he would fire Wistricill and Ianello on Monday and hire Tressel to replace them both as AD and Head Coach. I am still hoping all the rumors are true and he will be gone Monday. I would still like to see Bowden come here to Coach, but I think I would be happy with Pellini - I am surprised he only makes 375k to be d- coordinator at Nebraska. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 @skip zip you are out of your damn mind to compare Faust to Tressel. Faust failed miserably at Notre Dame and Tressel Is a legend in this state. I hate OSU and even I can see that, as well as the recognition/ Publicity he would bring the program is virtually immeasurable - please don't let your blind hatred for the school or the man cloud your judgement. I wanted the man to get hired at Akron after Faust's departure....he had just completed his third National Championship at YSU if I recall. I don't believe for a minute he is coming here to coach because I can't imagine we would be that fortunate. If Dr. P wanted to make a bold statement he would fire Wistricill and Ianello on Monday and hire Tressel to replace them both as AD and Head Coach. I am still hoping all the rumors are true and he will be gone Monday. I would still like to see Bowden come here to Coach, but I think I would be happy with Pellini - I am surprised he only makes 375k to be d- coordinator at Nebraska. The most insightful and intelligent statement made this entire thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 How many MAC teams have coaches as talented and as prestigious as Jim Tressel? It doesn't matter what you have done, it only matters what you will do. Tressel has no history of success beyond lying and cheating. Where is the evidence that lacking lying and cheating he will win at Akron? Again, he did NOTHING that had an impact on th game. Kids sold their personnal stuff and got other free things from people outside of the program (as is pretty much tradition at every other program in the country) NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING JT did had any effect on the game it's self. He didn't pay any kid to come to OSU, he didn't shoot kids up with roids, he didn't steal the other teams playbook, he didn't film the other teams practice. Let it go dude. Haters are going to hate. He has the most BCS wins of any coach yet they talk about his record in big games. Enough said right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 How many MAC teams have coaches as talented and as prestigious as Jim Tressel? It doesn't matter what you have done, it only matters what you will do. Tressel has no history of success beyond lying and cheating. Where is the evidence that lacking lying and cheating he will win at Akron? Again, he did NOTHING that had an impact on th game. Kids sold their personnal stuff and got other free things from people outside of the program (as is pretty much tradition at every other program in the country) NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING JT did had any effect on the game it's self. He didn't pay any kid to come to OSU, he didn't shoot kids up with roids, he didn't steal the other teams playbook, he didn't film the other teams practice. Let it go dude. Haters are going to hate. He has the most BCS wins of any coach yet they talk about his record in big games. Enough said right there. I wish our problem was we couldn't beat the USC, Texas, or the SEC in big games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 How many MAC teams have coaches as talented and as prestigious as Jim Tressel? It doesn't matter what you have done, it only matters what you will do. Tressel has no history of success beyond lying and cheating. Where is the evidence that lacking lying and cheating he will win at Akron? Again, he did NOTHING that had an impact on th game. Kids sold their personnal stuff and got other free things from people outside of the program (as is pretty much tradition at every other program in the country) NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING JT did had any effect on the game it's self. He didn't pay any kid to come to OSU, he didn't shoot kids up with roids, he didn't steal the other teams playbook, he didn't film the other teams practice. Let it go dude. Haters are going to hate. He has the most BCS wins of any coach yet they talk about his record in big games. Enough said right there. I wish our problem was we couldn't beat the USC, Texas, or the SEC in big games. He played Texas twice. Beat them once and lost the other on a dropped TD pass near the end of the game. USC was a disaster. Florida was a disaster. He played in the NC game against LSU the year after his Heisman trophy winning QB and 2 NFL WR and NFL RB graduated...Yeah, terrible coach..LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 How many MAC teams have coaches as talented and as prestigious as Jim Tressel? It doesn't matter what you have done, it only matters what you will do. Tressel has no history of success beyond lying and cheating. Where is the evidence that lacking lying and cheating he will win at Akron? Again, he did NOTHING that had an impact on th game. Kids sold their personnal stuff and got other free things from people outside of the program (as is pretty much tradition at every other program in the country) NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING JT did had any effect on the game it's self. He didn't pay any kid to come to OSU, he didn't shoot kids up with roids, he didn't steal the other teams playbook, he didn't film the other teams practice. Let it go dude. Haters are going to hate. He has the most BCS wins of any coach yet they talk about his record in big games. Enough said right there. I wish our problem was we couldn't beat the USC, Texas, or the SEC in big games. He played Texas twice. Beat them once and lost the other on a dropped TD pass near the end of the game. USC was a disaster. Florida was a disaster. He played in the NC game against LSU the year after his Heisman trophy winning QB and 2 NFL WR and NFL RB graduated...Yeah, terrible coach..LOL Buckzip...you have become one of the best examples I know of a OSWho fan who looks at your team through red and silver colored glasses. The ONLY win in those 6 games for OSWho was against a Texas team that just lost their own Heisman candidate to the NFL, and was starting a brand new QB, in his second start. Funny how you used that point to make excuses, but CONVENIENTLY forget the same fact when it contributed to your ONLY win in that 6 game stretch. So, could we just use your logic and say that this series of games should be regarded as a 0-6 record? I know. I'm just a "hater" for pointing this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 Wait...did I accidentally go to bucknuts? Tressel was an excellent coach at a level below the MAC and an excellent coach at a level above the MAC. If he ended up here it would be the best thing to ever happen to the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 Wait...did I accidentally go to bucknuts? Tressel was an excellent coach at a level below the MAC and an excellent coach at a level above the MAC. If he ended up here it would be the best thing to ever happen to the program. Simple but spot on. The Tressel haters would get over it quickly...trust me. Winning eliminates the hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip37 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 A ZNO POSTER HAS BEEN TELLING ME FOR SOME TIME THAT TRESSEL IS THE MAN, AND HE HAS BEEN RIGHT IN MOST OF WHAT HE HAS TOLD ME IN THE PAST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 I would be all for hiring Tressel. 1) If he could simply get us to the level of his great YSU teams of the past we'd be a perennial contender in the MAC. 2) I think he could raise Akron to an eventual Top 25 (25-20) program. 3) Imagine, if he were AD, the fundage the Vest could bring in. 4) He'd give us instant credibility throughout the state of Ohio, let alone the greater-Akron area, which we've had trouble recruiting in the past. 5) He'd give us instant credibility with the potential UA fan base; help fill the Info. 6) Current donors/sponsors would love it. 7) He'd probably consider Akron his grand finale; riding off into the sunset job, so we'd probably have him for a while. 8) Most importantly, it'd trump anything K e n t has done. Count me pro-Tressel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 Some random thoughts on Tressel: 1) The potential ban on coaching certainly can't be ignored. 2) Most people acknowledge that he, at the vary least, bent the rules throughout his career, going back to the YSU days (Ray Isaac, etc). Could he have had the success at YSU with every last move being monitored by everyone and their brothers, as would definitely be the case were UA to be able to talk him into giving it a go here? 3) This had never occurred to me before, but do you realise that when Winters was playing RB (1976-1979), Tressel (1975-1977) was GA coach of WRs, QBs, and RBs for part of that time. I'm curious as to whether they have any kind of relationship or not. 4) Making the huge assumption that it could be even possible, I'm still torn on whether I'd want UA to go this route or not. There was a time when I would have been totally against it. I guess I'd want to see the plan (staff, contracts, etc) before I'd decide for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipperRoo44 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 Jim Tressel will have a lengthy NCAA show cause on his record and will not coach again under the NCAA banner. Bank on it. Bruce Pearl received a 3-year ban http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball...w-cause-penalty and JT will get something very similar, if not more harsh. In the end he lied to the NCAA and that is a cardinal sin. IF the iCoach is dismissed, and I am still not believing that Proenza will pay off 3 years of a deal, there is only one coach who Akron will be able to afford, and that is Paul Winters. This is the only FBS job that Winters will ever have a chance to get at his age and experience level. He is an alum, so Akron can appeal to his sense of duty to his alma mater and make the contract very incentive based. When you think of the almost $1.5 million in buyout that will have to come for the current head coach (3 years), assistants (6 months) and the hiring of a new head coach, staff, transition costs, etc... this is a mighty big chunk to bite off for a sport that has never generated much public interest or financial following. No one stepped up to buy out Brookhart in 2009 or Owens in 2003 - that all fell on the University to pay the costs. That means in 2010 Akron was paying two head coaches and if this goes through Akron will be paying two head coaches in 2012, 2013, 2014. The "make every good effort" clause is not worth the paper it was written on as Ianello will be mud in the business for at least a year after getting the hook at Akron after only two seasons. As much as he needs to go Akron does not have the cash to pay him off without placing a major financial strain on the department for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 The JT talk may have some legs to it. You know he misses the sidelines and college game, and no big programs are going to touch him right now. He's an NEO guy and has been at Akron previously. He always showed an affection for the program while at OSU. JT could be immediately successful at Akron for a variety of reasons that many have already pointed out, not the least of which is the national attention he would bring to the program as well as his wide net of recruiting contacts at all the major programs throughout the region and in Florida. If there's interest there, pay the man what it takes to get him here. I'm all for Paul Winters but if JT wants the job it's gotta be his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 I am opposed to wasting 2M or more to replace any coach. College football is just not that important in the scheme of things. But if we could get Tressel to replace Ianello...I think it would be a good investment in the program and would eventually pay dividends. Any other coach would be almost as big of crap shoot as Ianello. The MAC just does not attract top tier coaches...it is where potential coaches prove themselves. Tressel and Solich would be exceptions. I think it would also start and upward trend for the MAC as these guys probably would retire at their respective schools. Go Zips!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 How many MAC teams have coaches as talented and as prestigious as Jim Tressel? It doesn't matter what you have done, it only matters what you will do. Tressel has no history of success beyond lying and cheating. Where is the evidence that lacking lying and cheating he will win at Akron? Again, he did NOTHING that had an impact on th game. Kids sold their personnal stuff and got other free things from people outside of the program (as is pretty much tradition at every other program in the country) NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING JT did had any effect on the game it's self. He didn't pay any kid to come to OSU, he didn't shoot kids up with roids, he didn't steal the other teams playbook, he didn't film the other teams practice. Let it go dude. Haters are going to hate. He has the most BCS wins of any coach yet they talk about his record in big games. Enough said right there. I wish our problem was we couldn't beat the USC, Texas, or the SEC in big games. He played Texas twice. Beat them once and lost the other on a dropped TD pass near the end of the game. USC was a disaster. Florida was a disaster. He played in the NC game against LSU the year after his Heisman trophy winning QB and 2 NFL WR and NFL RB graduated...Yeah, terrible coach..LOL Buckzip...you have become one of the best examples I know of a OSWho fan who looks at your team through red and silver colored glasses. The ONLY win in those 6 games for OSWho was against a Texas team that just lost their own Heisman candidate to the NFL, and was starting a brand new QB, in his second start. Funny how you used that point to make excuses, but CONVENIENTLY forget the same fact when it contributed to your ONLY win in that 6 game stretch. So, could we just use your logic and say that this series of games should be regarded as a 0-6 record? I know. I'm just a "hater" for pointing this out. See Skippy, You are the perfect example of a jealous hater that refuses to admit as much. So, in 10 years you point out 6 games. LOL at you. You are making yourself look like a fool. LIke I said, most BCS wins of any school since it started. Terrible coach. LOL at you again. My red and silver glasses..LOL. Poinitng out facts is wearing the glasses. Some on the OSU board think I'm not even an OSU fan because I am such an anti-homer. I am constantly getting attacked for being objective rather than wearing the glasses. I pointed out facts. You can't handle the facts. Fact, Tressel took his team that just lost a Heisman winner and multiple other players to the NFL, to the NCG. You can make your lame excuses all you want, but that is a fact. You are so full of jealousy and hate that you can't accept the man is an excellent coach. Just because you keep making sarcastic comments about being jealous and hateful doesn't mean it isn't true. If a 500lb man says he isn't fat, that doesn't mean he isn't. It just means he is in denial. You can deny this, and I am sure your other 2 pals will agree with you, but only a jealous, hating fool would even bother to look up that stuff to know it. You hate OSU and don't follow them so there would be no way you would know that unless you had to look it up to try to make yourself look smart. Failed attempt by the way. I am sure your always used "3 OSU friends" all make excuses too. I laugh at your made up lies. I doubt you have any friends, let alone any OSU fans. They would get tired of your worthless jealous act too. You and only a few others constantly bash OSU and Tressel. If you only did it once in a while I wouldn't even notice. But you with your "oswho" and "red and silver" is just showing your envy and hate. Yeah, I know give some sarcastic response that makes it not true...Bla, Bla, Bla.... This was a thread about the next Akron coach and as usual, you had to start with the OSU attacks. ROFLMAO. You are so transparent that it's so obvious. I actual feel sorry for you. You are a sad individual. You need to find good things in your life without trying to tear down everything else to make yourself feel better. I'm done discussing this stuff with you, because I know how it goes and nothing I ever say or anything that ever happens will change your inferior feeling, jealous, hateful attitude. Have at it now. You should probably start the Urban Meyer hate now....... Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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