akronzips71 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 It says the DJ did not report being injured = no assault. MUST have an injury for an assault. I don't believe you are correct. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault Maybe a lawyer on this site can give the meaning in Ohio law. I spent 30 years in Court, but in New York. I acknowledge that Ohio laws have different definitions. In NY, you must have an injury to have an assault. Otherwise it is "harassment", which is not a serious charge. If the cops claim they were assaulted, that is a different matter. But in general, assuming he has no record, this will all go away with a plea to a violation or and ACD (Adjourned in Contemplation of Dismissal). And remember, at this point he has not been convicted of anything. A continued suspension would be excessive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcc Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Everyone calm down. Disorderly Conduct is basically about the same as a traffic ticket. It is a violation, no one ever goes to jail for it, at worst you get a fine. But usually just a conditional discharge. He was not charged with assault or resisting, it will be resolved in one court appearance. That being said, what a bonehead move. But boys will be boys, and he is just a kid. BIG KID, but still a kid. A BIG KID who stands a good chance of blowing his college scholarship. Stupid, stupid move for any person of any age. If the report is accurate I would not be disappointed if he were suspended for the season, or permanently booted from the team. .... If the report is accurate. BIG "IF" keyword. He will have his day in court and all of the FACTS will be presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyforPresident Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I spent 30 years in Court, but in New York. I acknowledge that Ohio laws have different definitions. In NY, you must have an injury to have an assault. Otherwise it is "harassment", which is not a serious charge. If the cops claim they were assaulted, that is a different matter. But in general, assuming he has no record, this will all go away with a plea to a violation or and ACD (Adjourned in Contemplation of Dismissal). And remember, at this point he has not been convicted of anything. A continued suspension would be excessive. Ohio Revised Code ORC 2903.13 (A) "No person shall knowingly cause or attempt to cause physical harm to another or to another’s unborn." My best guess is that "attempt" is the operative word here. I agree with you. Assuming he doesn't have a record, there were no weapons involved, and the disc jockey was not injured, it seems like he would likely be offered a plea for something much less than an M1. People get into scrapes at bars all the time, especially college kids in their early 20s. It doesn't mean he wasn't wrong for what he allegedly did, but it seems like a first degree misdemeanor would be too severe, at least according to the facts in the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcc Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Everyone calm down. Disorderly Conduct is basically about the same as a traffic ticket. It is a violation, no one ever goes to jail for it, at worst you get a fine. But usually just a conditional discharge. He was not charged with assault or resisting, it will be resolved in one court appearance. That being said, what a bonehead move. But boys will be boys, and he is just a kid. BIG KID, but still a kid. Ditto....Everyone calm down! I know everyone is shocked and disappointed as to how this will affect the Zips basketball organization but first and foremost a young man's future is at stake. He is entitled to his day in court and hopefully the TRUTH and FACTS will be presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I've been thinking about this today. And I'm still torn. On one hand, I want this to be over with quickly (if it's only minor charges), and have a player back on the floor who can help us win basketball games. On the other hand, I don't want to jeopardize our integrity and turn into another Ken+ State. Maybe we do have to start taking some chances in order to elevate the program. And maybe we can allow one slip-up by a player without losing our credibility. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 .... If the report is accurate. BIG "IF" keyword. He will have his day in court and all of the FACTS will be presented. Every college coach preaches 1,000 times in his career -- "Nothing good happens after 12am." We'll see what transpires... BTW - Hartville has DJ's? It seems the news report's accuracy may indeed be questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Treadwell: "It's really crazy how the Media puts a spin on things to make you look like a bad guy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Treadwell: "It's really crazy how the Media puts a spin on things to make you look like a bad guy." My response: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Treadwell: "It's really crazy how the Media puts a spin on things to make you look like a bad guy." Maybe he is an innocent victim and the truth shall set him free. I hope he at least learned 2 lessons: 1. the media spins things to make you look bad. 2. STAY OUT OF THE MEDIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcc Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Treadwell: "It's really crazy how the Media puts a spin on things to make you look like a bad guy." Maybe he is an innocent victim and the truth shall set him free. I hope he at least learned 2 lessons: 1. the media spins things to make you look bad. 2. STAY OUT OF THE MEDIA Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Add me to the list of those who believe that all the facts aren't in, and that a person is presumed innocent unless found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. As I understand it, there are hard and fast university rules and athletic department rules that apply to various incidents involving students and athletes. Beyond that, I believe that the coach would have the ability to personally evaluate the individual and the circumstances and do whatever he thought was in the best interests of both the individual and the team. Based on UA's and KD's history with player incidents, I would expect any actions taken to be firm but fair and reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Treadwell: "It's really crazy how the Media puts a spin on things to make you look like a bad guy." Hey, DUMMY, underage drinking and breaking team curfew do make you a bad guy. The media had nothing to do with it. You managed this screw up entirely on your own. What kind of company do you keep? Bums? Thugs? Druggies? You are STUPID. You betrayed the trust of a lot of people who had faith in you. Now clean up your act and get back to being a Zip basketball player. The rest of you, stop kissing this idiot's butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Two interesting things about this story: 1) Dambrot called it a "mistake", and he's still on the team. If the story was 100% true as reported, I doubt KD's reaction would have been that way. 2) So Treadwell (at 6'7") and another person were punching the DJ in the face and body...but the DJ wasn't injured at all? Does this add up to anyone? Treadwell is guilty of putting himself in a bad situation. The rest, I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Treadwell: "It's really crazy how the Media puts a spin on things to make you look like a bad guy." Hey, DUMMY, underage drinking and breaking team curfew do make you a bad guy. The media had nothing to do with it. You managed this screw up entirely on your own. What kind of company do you keep? Bums? Thugs? Druggies? You are STUPID. You betrayed the trust of a lot of people who had faith in you. Now clean up your act and get back to being a Zip basketball player. The rest of you, stop kissing this idiot's butt. Wow, really? Because we're waiting for more details to be discovered before ripping the kid alive we're "kissing his butt"? Your post tells me you know nothing about Demetrius Treadwell. It's disappointing to see a kid screw up. It's also disappointed to see a grown man and Zips fan call one of our players a "dummy" when they clearly don't know the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcc Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Treadwell: "It's really crazy how the Media puts a spin on things to make you look like a bad guy." Hey, DUMMY, underage drinking and breaking team curfew do make you a bad guy. The media had nothing to do with it. You managed this screw up entirely on your own. What kind of company do you keep? Bums? Thugs? Druggies? You are STUPID. You betrayed the trust of a lot of people who had faith in you. Now clean up your act and get back to being a Zip basketball player. The rest of you, stop kissing this idiot's butt. Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 BTW - Hartville has DJ's? It seems the news report's accuracy may indeed be questionable. I think the story may be accurate, Cap'n. Those dancers look just like heads of Hartville cauliflower to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcc Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Treadwell: "It's really crazy how the Media puts a spin on things to make you look like a bad guy." Hey, DUMMY, underage drinking and breaking team curfew do make you a bad guy. The media had nothing to do with it. You managed this screw up entirely on your own. What kind of company do you keep? Bums? Thugs? Druggies? You are STUPID. You betrayed the trust of a lot of people who had faith in you. Now clean up your act and get back to being a Zip basketball player. The rest of you, stop kissing this idiot's butt. All the perfect people please raise your hand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Treadwell: "It's really crazy how the Media puts a spin on things to make you look like a bad guy." Hey, DUMMY, underage drinking and breaking team curfew do make you a bad guy. The media had nothing to do with it. You managed this screw up entirely on your own. What kind of company do you keep? Bums? Thugs? Druggies? You are STUPID. You betrayed the trust of a lot of people who had faith in you. Now clean up your act and get back to being a Zip basketball player. The rest of you, stop kissing this idiot's butt. Are you serious? Sure, I am serious. I have grown children. I know what kids do. Mine weren't perfect either. And, I do know Tree well enough to speak frankly to him. I want him to grow up and be a fine person in the community. As for kissing his butt; read the posts. All I am asking of Tree is to "man up". A member of the basketball team has zero business being in a club at two in the morning. He was suppose to be in bed in his room. He violated the coaching staff's trust. Get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Awesome, wonderful news. Has this been the worst couple days to be a Zips fan ever? For anyone not keeping track, the soccer team was eliminated from the NCAA tournament. After much hype, Tressel will not be coming to Akron. The basketball team got destroyed the other day, and now this. We still don't know what happened to Rico and how long he will be out, hopefully he will be back soon, but I don't expect the same from Tree after this Can't-esque behavior. Welcome to NE Ohio. Are you new here? We haven't had anything good happen for us since 1964, it's not changing anytime soon. Dumbest statement of the year?? 2005 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 There's plenty more. do you as Zips fans enjoy this "IN YOUR FACE" attitude that OSU fans are taking with the whole Urban Meyer hiring. Do you enjoy hearing about how bad we are? When someone continues to joke and trash our school what is your argument? "well we have a decent soccer team" Do you think anyone buys that argument? Do you think the rest of the country even cares? Aside from a 30 second highlight of that game on SportsCenter, how much National Attention did it get us? I don't mean Fox Soccer channel crap. I mean actual media outside the soccer world? Do you think anyone cares that we made it to the tournament twice? and in both years we barely made it and lost in the first round? Zippy won mascot of the year, but do you realize he hasn't even been in the running since? Not to mention it's a made up award, that is decided by internet votes? So please explain to me how I should be happy about our football team having 2 wins in the past two years, having a mediocre basketball team that plays in a dump of an arena, and being good at soccer? I'm sorry but my Zips are nothing to be proud of. I will wear my Zips gear everyday and get laughed at, but I will always stick behind them. I just don't have any faith that our school will be able to turn things around, and if you do I'm sorry you will just end up being disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Awesome, wonderful news. Has this been the worst couple days to be a Zips fan ever? For anyone not keeping track, the soccer team was eliminated from the NCAA tournament. After much hype, Tressel will not be coming to Akron. The basketball team got destroyed the other day, and now this. We still don't know what happened to Rico and how long he will be out, hopefully he will be back soon, but I don't expect the same from Tree after this Can't-esque behavior. Welcome to NE Ohio. Are you new here? We haven't had anything good happen for us since 1964, it's not changing anytime soon. Dumbest statement of the year?? 2005 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 There's plenty more. do you as Zips fans enjoy this "IN YOUR FACE" attitude that OSU fans are taking with the whole Urban Meyer hiring. Do you enjoy hearing about how bad we are? When someone continues to joke and trash our school what is your argument? "well we have a decent soccer team" Do you think anyone buys that argument? Do you think the rest of the country even cares? Aside from a 30 second highlight of that game on SportsCenter, how much National Attention did it get us? I don't mean Fox Soccer channel crap. I mean actual media outside the soccer world? Do you think anyone cares that we made it to the tournament twice? and in both years we barely made it and lost in the first round? Zippy won mascot of the year, but do you realize he hasn't even been in the running since? Not to mention it's a made up award, that is decided by internet votes? So please explain to me how I should be happy about our football team having 2 wins in the past two years, having a mediocre basketball team that plays in a dump of an arena, and being good at soccer? I'm sorry but my Zips are nothing to be proud of. I will wear my Zips gear everyday and get laughed at, but I will always stick behind them. I just don't have any faith that our school will be able to turn things around, and if you do I'm sorry you will just end up being disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Treadwell: "It's really crazy how the Media puts a spin on things to make you look like a bad guy." Hey, DUMMY, underage drinking and breaking team curfew do make you a bad guy. The media had nothing to do with it. You managed this screw up entirely on your own. What kind of company do you keep? Bums? Thugs? Druggies? You are STUPID. You betrayed the trust of a lot of people who had faith in you. Now clean up your act and get back to being a Zip basketball player. The rest of you, stop kissing this idiot's butt. Are you serious? Sure, I am serious. I have grown children. I know what kids do. Mine weren't perfect either. And, I do know Tree well enough to speak frankly to him. I want him to grow up and be a fine person in the community. As for kissing his butt; read the posts. All I am asking of Tree is to "man up". A member of the basketball team has zero business being in a club at two in the morning. He was suppose to be in bed in his room. He violated the coaching staff's trust. Get it? I'm sure you'd call him a dummy to his face... Listen, we're all disappointed...he screwed up and it's terrible press for the program. I don't think that gives you the right to call one of our players a "dummy" or "stupid", or to claim he's hanging out with druggies or thugs (which, by the way, I don't think you'd say if this was, say, Josh Egner.) Let's not let your emotions get the best of you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Treadwell: "It's really crazy how the Media puts a spin on things to make you look like a bad guy." Hey, DUMMY, underage drinking and breaking team curfew do make you a bad guy. The media had nothing to do with it. You managed this screw up entirely on your own. What kind of company do you keep? Bums? Thugs? Druggies? You are STUPID. You betrayed the trust of a lot of people who had faith in you. Now clean up your act and get back to being a Zip basketball player. The rest of you, stop kissing this idiot's butt. Are you serious? Sure, I am serious. I have grown children. I know what kids do. Mine weren't perfect either. And, I do know Tree well enough to speak frankly to him. I want him to grow up and be a fine person in the community. As for kissing his butt; read the posts. All I am asking of Tree is to "man up". A member of the basketball team has zero business being in a club at two in the morning. He was suppose to be in bed in his room. He violated the coaching staff's trust. Get it? I'm sure you'd call him a dummy to his face... Listen, we're all disappointed...he screwed up and it's terrible press for the program. I don't think that gives you the right to call one of our players a "dummy" or "stupid", or to claim he's hanging out with druggies or thugs (which, by the way, I don't think you'd say if this was, say, Josh Egner.) Let's not let your emotions get the best of you here. AHA the RACE CARD gets played. I knew it was in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 do you as Zips fans enjoy this "IN YOUR FACE" attitude that OSU fans are taking with the whole Urban Meyer hiring. Do you enjoy hearing about how bad we are? When someone continues to joke and trash our school what is your argument? "well we have a decent soccer team" Do you think anyone buys that argument? Do you think the rest of the country even cares? Aside from a 30 second highlight of that game on SportsCenter, how much National Attention did it get us? I don't mean Fox Soccer channel crap. I mean actual media outside the soccer world? Do you think anyone cares that we made it to the tournament twice? and in both years we barely made it and lost in the first round? Zippy won mascot of the year, but do you realize he hasn't even been in the running since? Not to mention it's a made up award, that is decided by internet votes? So please explain to me how I should be happy about our football team having 2 wins in the past two years, having a mediocre basketball team that plays in a dump of an arena, and being good at soccer? I'm sorry but my Zips are nothing to be proud of. I will wear my Zips gear everyday and get laughed at, but I will always stick behind them. I just don't have any faith that our school will be able to turn things around, and if you do I'm sorry you will just end up being disappointed. I'm sorry you don't take pride in the success of our soccer and basketball programs. I'm also sorry you don't think a MAC Championship for our football team means anything. I could care less about what idiots from OSUcks think of us because I have a lot of fun going to Akron soccer and basketball games. We have great atmospheres for both, and when football was winning, there's weren't bad at the Rubber Bowl either. I understand you hate seeing others get all the national attention and it makes you feel our program is insignificant. But why worry what others think? There's a lot to be proud of here in Akron and I'm sorry you don't share the same feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Where is race an issue? What an ignorant comment. I'm pretty sure thuggs and druggies come in all shapes and colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 As long as he's a Zip I'll stick behind him. Everyone makes mistakes... He's a young kid, and hopefully he learns his lesson and doesn't let it happen again. Most importantly let's hope it doesn't hurt his future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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