RootforRoo44 Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Check this one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 link to American Collegiate Hockey Association website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Check this one out. wrong link http://www.lakecounty-sentinel.com/index.php?p=9_27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted December 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 link to American Collegiate Hockey Association website? whoops! haha my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 One thing comes to mind: I am entirely lost where this cover up is. I read the article justin wrote about soccer and its very well done and shows how only at akron can we lose 7 starters and keep a championship expectancy. We still had a great year, but we weren't satisfyed. We've set the bar HIGH for ourselves and rightfully so... So please enlighten me where this cover up is because all I am seeing is someone complaining that their writer is getting flack for the tressel article and using this "cover up" with UA/ABJ to justify their reasoning for being upset.... Also, I will need further proof before I believe the sentinel is always getting things right. Sure they're 2-for-2 with Grady and now Tressel, but the data sample size is too low before I can believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 It is a shame that The Sentinel writer lost his job at UA over the incident. However, I don't believe the article was ever posted on GoZips.com, like the writer of this piece believes. He states, "We have tracking statistics that show where the hits on our website come from and there is proof that thousands of hits on our website came via the University of Akron's website." He may be confusing ZipsNation.org with GoZips.com? They probably did receive thousands of hits from ZipsNation.org, but UA would have never put that on GoZips.com, right? Additionally, the more credible rumor has it that Tressel was at the JAR a good hour before the game, but never actually attended the game. Finally, not to be judgmental, but even if The Sentinel is correct, it's not a very well written piece. IMHO, that hurts their credibility right there. But it's rather clear Tressel was on campus a couple (few?) times over the past two weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Jim Tressel was not at the JAR last Saturday. End of discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Btw, it's 10:00 a.m. Saturday 12/3 & on Yahoo.com's homepage "Jim Tressel" is the #1 trending topic. Click "Jim Tressel" & the first two stories that pop up are related to him declining the UA offer. Idk what's up with that, being it's a few days after the fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Jim Tressel was not at the JAR last Saturday. End of discussion. +1. It never happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 One overlooked point here is the conflict of interest that Justin Lada had as an employee of both the Lake County Sentinel and UA. A journalist must be free of conflicts that would prevent him from revealing newsworthy information about any entity. A UA employee must not use his position to obtain and reveal confidential information to the media, or be guilty of spreading false rumors to the media involving his employer. It's still not clear if Lada was passing confidential UA information or passing a bad rumor through the Lake County Sentinel. But either one would be valid grounds for dismissal, especially for a part-time employee trying to build a reputation as an investigative reporter who might be expected to have similar conflict of interest problems in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you am i Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 One overlooked point here is the conflict of interest that Justin Lada had as an employee of both the Lake County Sentinel and UA. A journalist must be free of conflicts that would prevent him from revealing newsworthy information about any entity. A UA employee must not use his position to obtain and reveal confidential information to the media, or be guilty of spreading false rumors to the media involving his employer. It's still not clear if Lada was passing confidential UA information or passing a bad rumor through the Lake County Sentinel. But either one would be valid grounds for dismissal, especially for a part-time employee trying to build a reputation as an investigative reporter who might be expected to have similar conflict of interest problems in the future. They can legally can him for just about any reason they want. Unless we have a contract, we're all at-will employees. I don't really see the conflict of interest problem here. It's one thing for a high level employee to use inside information for his own benefit or to use it to damage the university, but it's another thing for a low level part-timer to publicize a rumor he heard at work. That's not even using snide information, since UA is saying it never happened. They are just saying he was wrong and they are ticked off at him for spreading a rumor about the university. I doubt Tressel was at the game. If he was, plenty of people have had the opportunity to step forward and say that they saw him, but I have not heard anyone say that. Just rumors. I'll admit, I was beginning to wonder if it could possibly happen. It was actually a fun few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Another point that those without journalism experience might overlook is that the Lake County Sentinel did not identify Justin Lada as an employee of UA on his feature story about UA soccer. Major newspapers routinely reveal if a story has been written by someone with ties to the subject of the article. This is considered important to maintaining journalistic integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Jim Tressel was not at the JAR last Saturday. End of discussion. If no one produces any proof, then there is no point over rehashing it. I just always find it funny how some people are so quick and serious about squelching some topics. This is a NEW article. Hello. You may want it to go away, but there is a reason that it is being discussed again. It's not rehashing. Get off your high horse about dead horses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Jim Tressel was not at the JAR last Saturday. End of discussion. If no one produces any proof, then there is no point over rehashing it. I just always find it funny how some people are so quick and serious about squelching some topics. During the bus trip on Monday to WVU, I asked several UA employees, who spent the whole afternoon at the JAR, whether Tressel was at the JAR on Saturday. All of them said that JT was absolutely Not there Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Jim Tressel was not at the JAR last Saturday. End of discussion. If no one produces any proof, then there is no point over rehashing it. I just always find it funny how some people are so quick and serious about squelching some topics. During the bus trip on Monday to WVU, I asked several UA employees, who spent the whole afternoon at the JAR, whether Tressel was at the JAR on Saturday. All of them said that JT was absolutely Not there Saturday. It's okay by me if he wasn't. I was excited about the Tressel thing, but I'm past it now. I'm just pointing out how the article by that paper is a new topic to discuss. Reacting with the as if this was some unsolicited resurrection of a dead topic is obviously a blatant reaction fueled by a desire to censor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksu sucks Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Born and raised in eastern Lake county and I have never heard of the Sentinel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zestycoyote Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Born and raised in eastern Lake county and I have never heard of the Sentinel. Well with that information, I just know it isn't at all reputable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 From saferpage.com: The Lake County Sentinel is located in Wickliffe, Ohio. The Lake County Sentinel published it's first edition on April 9, 1997 as the Wickliffe Tribune. In 1998 the name was changed to The Lake County Sentinel. The Lake County Sentinel is now strictly an online news source for Lake County, Ohio and surrounding communities. I can find no listing of the Lake County Sentinel in all the usual places where even the smallest newspapers are listed, such as newspapers.com, onlinenewspapers.com or 50states.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 I guess they don't exist then. it's all a figment of your imaginations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Bob Dyer's story: Inside scoop Online journalism. Gotta love it. Cyberspace was tingling Tuesday afternoon when the Lake County Sentinel (no, I had never heard of it, either) reported that former Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel was in Akron and was all but a lock to become the next head coach of the Zips. The website, which bills itself as “Lake County Ohio’s online news source,” cited unnamed sources as confirming that Tressel attended a UA basketball game Saturday night [false] and would meet with school officials within days [false]. “It has also rumored [sic] that the board of donations at the University of Akron are [sic] pushing hard for Tressel to coach the Zips football team, who [sic] went 2-22 under former coach Rob Ianello, who was fired after two years on Saturday.” The board of what? Now, I realize that big-money donors can play a significant role in these sorts of decisions, but I’m pretty sure the University of Akron does not have a “board of donations.” So I shot an email to the author, who is identified on the site as “Senior Writer” Justin Lada. Hi. Quick question on your Tressel story: What the hell is the U of A “board of donations”? His response, verbatim: “Don’t worry about, I don’t want to get ‘scooped.’ Thanks for you [sic] interest.” Huh? I tried again. If you have uncovered a “board of donations,” you already have a major scoop. His response: “Thank you for your interest in our website. If you need any additional information, feel free to contacting [sic] our owner and editor. ...” Well, I’ve got a scoop, too, Justin. And feel free to quote it. I hear the University of Akron Board of Wild Speculation, in conjunction with the UA Armchair Quarterbacking Board, is pressuring the university to bring in Gerry Faust as offensive coordinator, Jim Dennison as linebackers coach and Bob Huggins as sports information director. Sources say it will happen by the end of the week. Remember, you heard it here first. Bob Dyer can be reached at 330-996-3580 or bdyer@thebeaconjournal.com. http://www.ohio.com/news/local/bob-dyer-ma...-photo-1.248140 The irony. He's making a jab at online journalism, while online journalism is putting companies like the Beacon out of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Bob Dyer is definitely in the running for smart ass of the year. Pretty unprofessional in his call-out, but humorous nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 I think poor Justin just got caught up in something a lot bigger than he ever imagined it would be. He's basically a young student hoping to graduate from UA in 2013, and holding down a bunch of part-time jobs. Justin Lada LinkedIn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 He should have never have written the original article. There's a reason none of the big news outlets around here said anything (until, of course, he broke the story), and that's that they didn't want to scare Tressel off with some premature media circus. Then this kid comes along looking to get some web hits and his big break, and Tressel gets cold feet at the same time we laid down our offer. This is a lesson in responsible journalism. Don't ruin something for personal gain. P.S. Tressel WAS absolutely on campus Saturday. He just wasn't in the JAR during the basketball game. In fact, he was meeting with Wistrcill for many hours that night. The UA employees that are denying it are lying to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 P.S. Tressel WAS absolutely on campus Saturday. He just wasn't in the JAR during the basketball game. In fact, he was meeting with Wistrcill for many hours that night. The UA employees that are denying it are lying to you. I was told by someone I respect, and don't think he would have any reason to lie, that Tressel was not on campus last Saturday. I believe him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Classic he said, she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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