Zipmeister Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 It's funny there are people saying we're suck at everything, don't bring anything to C-USA, etc. But then I look closer and realize the people saying these things are fans of schools like UTEP and Southern Miss. haha really? I mean we may not be great at football, but our basketball and soccer teams speak for themselves. I think we would be one of the best schools in C-USA instantly, and really the only MAC school that needs to move out. Some people see the glass as half empty, some see it as half full, then there's ak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Some people see the glass as half empty, some see it as half full, then there's ak. Yeah because schools with crap facilities like Dix and Peden Stadium deserve to move up? Have you ever seen some of these schools in the MAC? So many glorified high school or D2 looking stadiums and gyms. It's a joke, really. Welcome to the Big East Can't State!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 It's funny there are people saying we're suck at everything, don't bring anything to C-USA, etc. But then I look closer and realize the people saying these things are fans of schools like UTEP and Southern Miss. haha really? I mean we may not be great at football, but our basketball and soccer teams speak for themselves. I think we would be one of the best schools in C-USA instantly, and really the only MAC school that needs to move out. UTEP and Southern Miss should be thankful they have not been stepped down to FCS. Two very bad football schools talking trash. They need to look in the mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Not that the glorious state of Misssssissssipppi is the beat all-end all, but Southern Miss (which is always an entertaining team to watch) had the best football team in the state last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Southern Miss is really good at football and basketball, not sure what you guys are talking about lol. 4/20 is over.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Southern Miss is really good at football and basketball, not sure what you guys are talking about lol. 4/20 is over.. Zippy you are right, Southern Miss was a bad on to put in the post, but UTEP has been one of the worst for years. Taking a quick look at their conference, there are several offenders of pure bad football for years. Conference USA is looking more and more like a bad idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Zippy you are right, Southern Miss was a bad on to put in the post, but UTEP has been one of the worst for years. Taking a quick look at their conference, there are several offenders of pure bad football for years. Conference USA is looking more and more like a bad idea Memphis football has been pretty bad over the years. Southern Miss and East Carolina have been pretty good. Makes the Big East's thought process puzzling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Memphis football has been pretty bad over the years. Southern Miss and East Carolina have been pretty good. Makes the Big East's thought process puzzling. Memphis got in because of basketball. Usually a top 10? program I believe, if not sometimes better. Calipari did get them to the National Championship, just to get it vacated by the NCAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Memphis got in because of basketball. Usually a top 10? program I believe, if not sometimes better. Calipari did get them to the National Championship, just to get it vacated by the NCAA. That's why it's puzzling. The Big East is a basketball conference that has football BCS AQ status (deserved or not) that they desperately do not want to lose, so they invite Memphis? How does that help with their football concerns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 The Big East is a basketball conference that has football BCS AQ status (deserved or not) I don't know if the deserve it or not, but if the ACC is a BCS AQ, then so is the Big East. Maybe not with the exit of WVU, Pitt and Syracuse, but up until this coming year there were better than the ACC. VA Tech (former Big East) has won the ACC football championship four of eight times since joining the league. It isn't a very good football conference and VA Tech is not the program it was eight years ago. Some say WVU was not let in the ACC because of academics. That's nonsense. WVU (Big East) wasn't allowed in the ACC because realignment is happening for football reasons and WVU would immediately be the best team in the ACC. The other schools don't want them in because they don't want a repeat of VA Tech. They made Clemson look like a I-AA team last bowl season when they beat them 70-33. Imagine what their offense would do on a weekly basis against the teams that don't win the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 You aren't going to catch me arguing on behalf of the ACC. When they split the conference in two they had sugar plum visions of an annual high powered FSU/Miami ACC Championship game to give the new look league some real credibility. Hasn't happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottditzen Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 It's the tv money, stupid. SDSU moving 'full steam' to Big East by Brent Schrotenboer April 23, 2012 Rumors have circulated for months that San Diego State might not go through with its plan to join the Big East conference next year in football. http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/apr/23...steam-big-east/ Even if the Big East loses its BCS status, SDSU is making the move to the Big East primarily for TV money. SDSU expects to increase its TV revenue from about $1.5 million annually in the Mountain West to at least $6.4 million in the Big East. There is some risk involved because SDSU is basing that Big East TV revenue on an estimate. Big East will begin negotiating a new TV contract in September, and the exact figure won’t be known until a new agreement is reached. A new Big East TV contract still is expected to pay much more than any TV contract with a proposed Mountain West combination with Conference USA. That’s because the Big East will have significantly bigger TV markets, including its East Coast base and new members from San Diego, Houston and Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 It's the tv money, stupid. SDSU moving 'full steam' to Big East by Brent Schrotenboer April 23, 2012 Rumors have circulated for months that San Diego State might not go through with its plan to join the Big East conference next year in football. http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/apr/23...steam-big-east/ Even if the Big East loses its BCS status, SDSU is making the move to the Big East primarily for TV money. SDSU expects to increase its TV revenue from about $1.5 million annually in the Mountain West to at least $6.4 million in the Big East. There is some risk involved because SDSU is basing that Big East TV revenue on an estimate. Big East will begin negotiating a new TV contract in September, and the exact figure won’t be known until a new agreement is reached. A new Big East TV contract still is expected to pay much more than any TV contract with a proposed Mountain West combination with Conference USA. That’s because the Big East will have significantly bigger TV markets, including its East Coast base and new members from San Diego, Houston and Dallas. San Deigo State, Really!? Now that is a desperate move by both sides. If it is all about the Television market, I decided to go hear and take a look for myself Top T.V markets If it is being based just on that, San Deigo is way down the list and a bad, bad move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 If is is being based just on that, San Deigo is way down the list and a bad, bad move I'm not sure this guy agrees with you --> Or perhaps you're just itching for a little jazz flute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 http://www.bcinterruption.com/2012/4/28/29...north-texas-fiu "-- Both the Big East and MAC are at 13 programs, opening up the possibility of either searching for a 14th member (round numbers FTW). Of the two, the Big East is probably far more likely to try to even up the ranks by picking off a (yet another) team from Conference USA or the MAC" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 If anybody needed any more evidence that a school's TV market is the key ingredient to future expansion, it looks like 2012 FBS newcomer UTSA will be joining C-USA/"the alliance" after their one and only season in the WAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 http://www.bcinterruption.com/2012/4/28/29...north-texas-fiu "-- Both the Big East and MAC are at 13 programs, opening up the possibility of either searching for a 14th member (round numbers FTW). Of the two, the Big East is probably far more likely to try to even up the ranks by picking off a (yet another) team from Conference USA or the MAC" Will be Southern Miss or East Carolina.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 If anybody needed any more evidence that a school's TV market is the key ingredient to future expansion, it looks like 2012 FBS newcomer UTSA will be joining C-USA/"the alliance" after their one and only season in the WAC. UTSA? If they are taking schools like this, then Akron should be on the list to bolt. Unless, they want to stay. If this is the case, it spells total doom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 If anybody needed any more evidence that a school's TV market is the key ingredient to future expansion, it looks like 2012 FBS newcomer UTSA will be joining C-USA/"the alliance" after their one and only season in the WAC. CUSA is adding teams because the alliance isn't going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 CUSA is adding teams because the alliance isn't going to happen. The Fedd speaks the truth (for now anyway). UNT, FIU and La Tech are also possible candidates for C-USA. If the alliance doesn't happen anytime soon, would C-USA be interested in UA, UT, or UB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 The Fedd speaks the truth (for now anyway). UNT, FIU and La Tech are also possible candidates for C-USA. If the alliance doesn't happen anytime soon, would C-USA be interested in UA, UT, or UB? The short answer is "no" on that. However I did ask that question out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 The short answer is "no" on that. However I did ask that question out loud. Lance, In response to your statement regarding the Mt West/CUSA Alliance that,: If Hawaii join, it would be a cool trip Since Hawaii is a football-only member of the Mt West Conference (beginning in 2012), they would be considered part of the "Alliance". However, all the self-declared "experts" in the islands are saying that with so many teams, there would be geographic divisions whereby Hawaii would rarely have to travel East of the Mississippi. And the AD has declared the school will NOT subsidize travel expenses for any new members, as they are required to currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 http://denver.sbnation.com/air-force-falco...-san-jose-state "the WAC is becoming an endangered species in football" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I wonder who the first conference, in a fit of honesty, that will call themselves..."Conference Grasping at Straws (CGS)". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Lance, In response to your statement regarding the Mt West/CUSA Alliance that,: If Hawaii join, it would be a cool trip Since Hawaii is a football-only member of the Mt West Conference (beginning in 2012), they would be considered part of the "Alliance". However, all the self-declared "experts" in the islands are saying that with so many teams, there would be geographic divisions whereby Hawaii would rarely have to travel East of the Mississippi. And the AD has declared the school will NOT subsidize travel expenses for any new members, as they are required to currently. That would make sense...I can't believe they pay anything for conference teams to travel to them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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