Roster additions and losses

[InTheZone]

As an illustration:

Let's say Prospect A enrolled at Walsh, a Division 2 program, and took a full time schedule in the fall, but didn't play football. Let's then say he had a bad car accident and took 2 years off of school. At the end of the 2 years, he decides he wants to play football. His choices are walking on at Akron, or playing for Walsh.

At Akron, he will have 3 years of eligibility remaining, making him technically a RS-Sophomore.

At Walsh, he will have 9 semesters of full time enrollment left, and 4 seasons of competition, making him effectively a true Freshman who can still be redshirted and play 4 seasons after that, though he will have to pick a spring and not enroll full time and sit out spring practice to still have a semester of full time enrollment available for him in his final fall.

[NewZipsFan]

For FBS and FCS eligibility, there is a 5 year "clock" that starts whenever you enroll in any school that has a football program, no matter what level, and it starts whether you're on that school's football team or not. By enrolling in a JUCO that had a football program, this young man started his clock. If he were to go to a Division 2 program, which at that level there is no "5 year clock" and they count their eligibility by semesters of full time enrollment (you get 10) and seasons of competition (you get 4), he would likely still be able to have 4 seasons of competition. At any D1 school however, large or small, he's going to be a junior. Whether it's Akron or Ohio State makes no difference, and it has nothing to do with paperwork.

Brandon Weedon played minor league baseball, never enrolled at a school with a football program, so he didn't start his five year clock until he enrolled at Oklahoma State at the age of 23.

Exactly correct. Perfect explanation.

[LZIp]

Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't aware he was enrolled 2 years at butler cc.

Off topic, but on the case of Weeden, I assume he wasnt playing baseball for free, so wouldn't that have made him ineligible to play NCAA football? Or does that rule only apply to the same sport. I ask this because recently there has been the high school golfer, who couldn't accept monetary prizes so that he could keep his eligibility, and the Olympic swimmer in high school who couldn't accept money for the same reason

[NewZipsFan]

Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't aware he was enrolled 2 years at butler cc.

Off topic, but on the case of Weeden, I assume he wasnt playing baseball for free, so wouldn't that have made him ineligible to play NCAA football? Or does that rule only apply to the same sport. I ask this because recently there has been the high school golfer, who couldn't accept monetary prizes so that he could keep his eligibility, and the Olympic swimmer in high school who couldn't accept money for the same reason

Pretty sure it is compensation in the same sport. Don't forget Heisman Trophy winner and National Champion QB Chris Weinke from FSU - he was 27 then - after spending 6 years with the Blue Jays organization.

[Dave in Green]

The one question I have about Turner's eligibility is whether he might be a good candidate to petition the NCAA for an additional year of eligibility based on not having completely recovered from his gunshot wounds when he first enrolled in college. Talk about medical hardships, this kid was lying near death in a hospital bed not that long before he enrolled in junior college. He may have technically started the NCAA clock ticking. But, realistically, he was still recovering from a near-death experience and was likely not physically recovered enough to play football. Seems to me that the NCAA medical hardship exemption to gain an extra year of eligibility would be a pretty reasonable expectation here.

[Dr Z]

Good News For Turner

[johnnyzip84]

Good News For Turner

Very good news!! Hopefully he can keep focused during these four years. It's fun to imagine how good he might be after a year or two of a D1 strength and conditioning program.

[LZIp]

My guess is that it may not be completely worked out. Maybe they just went through the bare minimum paper work to get him eligible and on the field..maybe I'm wrong though.

Good call sir

[Dave in Green]

Will be interesting to get more details and see if this is the result of petitioning the NCAA for a medical hardship waiver, as four years of eligibility definitely does not fit the standard scenario laid out earlier by InTheZone. However it happened, it's great news for all involved.

[Zipmeister]

Good call sir

Careful with your arm.

[K92]

Careful with your arm.

[Zipmeister]

[akronzips71]

Great news!

Now the BIG questions:

*Can we keep him from transferring to a big name school if he plays up to his potential?

*Can we keep him from entering the NFL draft if he plays up to potential?

*WILL HE PLAY UP TO HIS POTENTIAL?

[johnnyzip84]

Great news!

Now the BIG questions:

*Can we keep him from transferring to a big name school if he plays up to his potential?

*Can we keep him from entering the NFL draft if he plays up to potential?

*WILL HE PLAY UP TO HIS POTENTIAL?

Maybe these questions can wait until he beats out Justin March and/or ShelDon Miller for the starting lineup?

[akronzips71]

Maybe these questions can wait until he beats out Justin March and/or ShelDon Miller for the starting lineup?

Point taken.

But with all the hype, that would seem to be inevitable.

[johnnyzip84]

Point taken.

But with all the hype, that would seem to be inevitable.

I'll admit, I'm really excited to see what this guy can do for us. Coach Amato's comments about him seem to indicate they'll be bringing him along slowly since he's pretty raw at this point. Hopefully, he'll pick up the nuances of the defense as quickly as possible.

[LZIp]

I've heard he is head and shoulder more athletic than any other LB we have. Just needs to put on some muscle