LZIp Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Apparently Penn State recruiting isnt dead yet. They just got a commit from a 0* LB from Arizona who has offers from EKU, Wofford, and Robert Morris.. http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/s...penn-state.html http://rivals.yahoo.com/michigan/football/...college_choices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 In retrospect, it was a classic case of plea bargaining. NCAA school presidents agreed that an appropriate punishment was to kill PSU football for four years. When Emmert told Erickson what to expect, Erickson pled for a lesser punishment and signed a consent decree accepting all facts and conclusions from the Freeh report that Paterno, Spanier, Curley and Schultz concealed Sandusky's heinous actions. The NCAA did not feel obligated to wait for due process to play out in the judicial system but accepted the results of the PSU-commissioned Freeh report as PSU's investigation of itself and admission of guilt. For those who think the NCAA punishment was too great, it should be noted that PSU's peers (other school presidents) had agreed on an even harsher punishment. For those who think the punishment was too little, that's the nature of plea bargains where there is an agreement not to appeal. For those who think the punishment could have been better crafted, that goes with the territory. There is never universal agreement on how guilty someone is and whether the punishment is appropriate to the crime. Penn State faced 4-year death penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Every time Gordon Gee-whiz opens his mouth, I think the same thing. He makes something like $2 million a year, or about half of what he has to pay his football coach.Cook Agrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 So what does someone closely associated with the Freeh report think about the NCAA using the report as its basis for penalizing PSU? Here's the report from The Chronicle of Higher Education, the major news service in the United States academic world: "That document was not meant to be used as the sole piece, or the large piece, of the NCAA's decision making," a source familiar with the investigation told The Chronicle on Thursday. "It was meant to be a mechanism to help Penn State move forward. To be used otherwise creates an obstacle to the institution changing." "The Freeh team reviewed how Penn State operated, not how they worked within the NCAA's system," this person said. "The NCAA's job is to investigate whether Penn State broke its rules and whether it gained a competitive advantage in doing so." "In using this report largely as the basis for their decision, the NCAA could hurt Penn State's enrollment, recruiting, and outside relationships and partnerships," the source said. "If you don't attract good faculty and research dollars, your institution has no stature." "The report is critical, but nothing is black and white," The Chronicle's source said. "No investigation can totally answer all the questions everyone has." "The NCAA took this report and ran with it without further exploration," this person said. "If you really wanted to show there was a nexus to cover up, interview the coaches. See their knowledge and culpability and how far this went." "The sanctions against Penn State were really overwhelming, and no one imagined the report being used to do that," this person said. "People thought it would help others draw conclusions about what happened and provide a guide for leaders to be able to identify minefields and navigate through them. "Instead, Emmert took the report and used Penn State's own resources to do them in," the person said. "The institution is made of people, too. And they don't deserve this." Freeh Group Member Criticizes NCAA's Use of Investigative Report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Apparently Penn State recruiting isnt dead yet. They just got a commit from a 0* LB from Arizona who has offers from EKU, Wofford, and Robert Morris.. http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/s...penn-state.html http://rivals.yahoo.com/michigan/football/...college_choices Wow, the must be getting desperate to take recruits out of greater Phoenix! (and yes, some of those teams could not beat East,Springfield or North) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I don't want to believe this is true... Top Secret Strictly Hush-Hush Consulting Position SIAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I don't want to believe this is true... Top Secret Strictly Hush-Hush Consulting Position SIAP he should be in jail, not working for out government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 he should be in jail, not working for out government. Every dog has his day. His is coming.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Link This topic can go from what the ncaa should to to what psu should do. What their Board is doing is probably the right thing to do. However, they can do better. They need to get a bunch of their rich attorney alumns, and there are a ton of them, to start filing cases against the ncaa. Make the ncaa miserable. Threaten them to have to spend millions in defense of their actions and press it if they have to. If the other members hammered them, hammer them back and drag all of them through the psu wreckage. Make ALL of them spend hours upon hours defending their actions. The ncaa played rough with psu and those remaining behind who didn't have anything to do with the Sandusy problem didn't play at all. They took a huge punch and now they need to recover and come back swinging. They have nothing to lose at this point. Personally, I don't care what happens to psu football. I hate the ncaa like a hooker hates a case of crabs and I would love nothing more than to see them get bullied back. A bunch of a-hole alumni lawyers would be a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Penn State's accreditation in danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Every dog has his day. His is coming.... Do you really think good things are in his future? If there is any justice, this shouldn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Do you really think good things are in his future? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Penn State's accreditation in danger.Experts say "unlikely" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Experts say "unlikely" Its funny. This organization accredits based upon "governance, finance and integrity". If that is the case, shouldnt every accredited institution lose its accreditation based upon its association with the ncaa, if they have one? The ncaa is horribly governed. It is almost entirely financed by one event a year. Do we even need to go into the integrity of the ncaa? Every organization seems to want psu to fill out forms. Pretty soon, psu will be filling out so many forms they wont be able to, you know, make sure perverts arent on campus. This is all getting so freaking stupid. At one point, there was an opportunity to turn this entire issue around and start to make something positive happen for people now and in the future. Now it is all becoming silly and the focus is off the victims and prevention. Forms...that's what is needed here....forms. Nice work ncaa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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