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And let me add, this was not a bar fight, this was not a domestic fight with a woman who was driving him nuts,

THIS WAS A PREMEDITATED CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE.

I am not saying he should be executed or sent to prison for life.

I am saying he is not fit to be a representative of this university.

One day in the near future, Zips fans will look at all of the good athlete-students we have lost over the years because of silly pot laws and shake their heads about how stupid it all was.

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One day in the near future, Zips fans will look at all of the good athlete-students we have lost over the years because of silly pot laws and shake their heads about how stupid it all was.

You are free to disagree with the law, but you are not free to break it.

If you don't like it work to change it, but in the meanwhile you must obey it.

We never lost anyone because of any "silly" laws.

We only lost people because of a failure to control themselves.

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I agree that it's not in anyone's best interests to want Abreu back on the team for a variety of reasons. But I do wish him the best of luck in having a productive future outside of the Zips basketball team. If the prosecutor responsible for ensuring that Abreu received appropriate punishment for his crime had good things to say about the manner in which Abreu conducted himself, and if the judge suspended the sentence and put him on probation, that suggests to me that he is not some kind of evil criminal to be forever shunned by society. If I saw him on the street today, I'd walk up to him, shake his hand and thank him for all the good he has done and tell him I hope he would go on to accomplish great things in his life.

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I wish Alex the best but how productive is he going to be with a 3rd degree felony on his record? Whenever he fills out a job application he has to check the box that says he is a felon. It is going to be a tough road for him and I believe teaching is not an option due to the felony. He would also have a tough time in the financial industry if I'm correct.

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I agree that it's not in anyone's best interests to want Abreu back on the team for a variety of reasons. But I do wish him the best of luck in having a productive future outside of the Zips basketball team. If the prosecutor responsible for ensuring that Abreu received appropriate punishment for his crime had good things to say about the manner in which Abreu conducted himself, and if the judge suspended the sentence and put him on probation, that suggests to me that he is not some kind of evil criminal to be forever shunned by society. If I saw him on the street today, I'd walk up to him, shake his hand and thank him for all the good he has done and tell him I hope he would go on to accomplish great things in his life.

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I wish Alex the best but how productive is he going to be with a 3rd degree felony on his record? Whenever he fills out a job application he has to check the box that says he is a felon. It is going to be a tough road for him and I believe teaching is not an option due to the felony. He would also have a tough time in the financial industry if I'm correct.

He can kiss goodbye to any type of licensure, he really has very few options in the US. His best bet is to finish out his college career anywhere he can, play in the minors, and hope to get into coaching somewhere. That IMO is his best bet to getting a paycheck.

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You are free to disagree with the law, but you are not free to break it.

If you don't like it work to change it, but in the meanwhile you must obey it.

We never lost anyone because of any "silly" laws.

We only lost people because of a failure to control themselves.

I just read through this thread and basically came here to say this.

I absolutely believe pot should be legalized. But this is not a pot issue, and highlighting how pot is becoming legal in some states is a red herring.

It IS illegal right now, and he dealt with it in felonious amounts according to his plea. As other have said, there was an element of thought that went into this that is different than being caught drinking underaged at a frat party.

Abreu seems smart. He KNEW that if he got caught, his time on the Zips were likely over and his team would be without a great point guard. He did it anyway. When you play for a team, join a club, enter a marriage, whatever, you're basically agreeing to adhere to the rules laid out by the partnership/organization. If you don't like the rules, don't join the group. Do NOT say, "I want to be involved in this group, but I shall try to secretly abrogate their rules. Have my cake and eat it too, if you will." So what disappoints me most about Abreu is the lack of character his actions showed, his selfishness. Pot shouldn't be illegal. It is illegal though, and what you do with that information matters. It matters to your teammates, coaches, fans, and you.

I would be shocked and upset if AA was allowed back on the team. I hope that he either transfers to a school completely unconnected in any way to UA, Ohio, or the MAC, or starts his pro career. If he does either, I will root for him. I also hope that he can make a niche for himself playing overseas since it will now be a lot harder for him to enter the US workforce.

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