Onward and upward

[MDZip]

Drew McGhee, 6-11, C, Jr., Miami (Ohio) - KENNESAW STATE

Andre McPhail, 6-7, F, Fr., Buffalo

Earvin Morris Jr., 6-5, SF, Fr., Can't State

Abdel Nader, 6-7, F, Soph., Northern Illinois

Mike Ramey, 6-4, G, Fr., Ball State - MIAMI DADE

Allen Roberts, 6-3, G, Jr., Miami (Ohio) (can play immediately)

Akeem Springs, 6-3, G, Fr., Northern Illinois

Jared Tadlock, 6-9, C, Soph., Miami (Ohio)

Jon Harris, 6-8, F, Jr., Miami (Ohio)

Reese Holliday, 6-4, F, Jr., Toledo

Yeah but what the hell happened at Miam? Roberts and Harris averaged over 25 minutes a game, McGhee over 12 and Tadlock played in 17 games even though he didn't get a lot of minutes, but Miami touted him because he was on the all-MAC academic team. Something must have gone really wrong other than just a bad season.

Edit: Not as dire as I thought, Saw this on the RedHawks board "McGhee and Roberts will graduate in May and could have an additional year of scholarship. Tadlock will move to a program where he believes he can find more p/t. It appears that Jon Harris is leaving on his own --- probably based upon the roster turnover. No other players have been confirmed." Suspect it will be a few years before the RedHawks challenge the Zips again.

[GoZips]

Any chance he transfers to A K R O N?

In reference to Darius Paul; NO. The MAC has rules to prohibit transferring from one MAC school to another.

These rules are the result of the tampering of Akron player Bubba Walther. He was lured to Ohio by an assistant

coach.

[jupitertoo]

In reference to Darius Paul; NO. The MAC has rules to prohibit transferring from one MAC school to another.

These rules are the result of the tampering of Akron player Bubba Walther. He was lured to Ohio by an assistant

coach.

Not true. In any respect.

[Dave in Green]

I always thought the NCAA was the sole arbiter of transfer rules. But the NCAA Transfer Guide says:

In some cases, conference rules can be more restrictive than NCAA rules, so you need to have a clear picture before you make a move.

So it may be possible that MAC transfer rules are different from other conferences. But I can't find a copy of the MAC rule book.

[GJGood]

Any chance he transfers to A K R O N?

If the Zips had the scholly room and were pursuing a transfer I'd want them to go after Darion Clark, a forward that spent his freshman year this past season starting 18 games for the Charlotte 49ers of the A-10.

[ZachTheZip]

Our basketball recruiting class is not yet complete.

[taxpayer]

Our basketball recruiting class is not yet complete.

Meaning?

Current Zip transferring? Ineligible?

Someone willing to pay their own way coming in?

[Captain Kangaroo]

From what I was told, with Diggs returning, there are no additional scholarships available. Barring a surprise defection, what we see is what we've got.

[Dave in Green]

Technically, the recruiting class is never 100% locked in until 13 scholarship players are all registered for the fall semester and show up for practice. Below is the current situation on scholarships based on everything I've heard to date. The only way another scholarship player gets added is to subtract one of these. Since Coach Dambrot has said Diggs has a 95% chance of returning, he still has to be looking at adding someone in the 5% case that Diggs doesn't return. He also has to be prepared if Ibitayo considers transferring due to thinking he isn't going to get as much playing time as he wants. Stuff happens, as we Zips fans know all too well.

1. Betancourt

2. Cheatham

3. Diggs

4. Evans

5. Forsythe

6. Gladden

7. Harney

8. Ibitayo

9. Jackson

10. Johnson

11. Kretzer

12. McAdams

13. Treadwell

[zippyfan34]

What I am really concerned about is that we only have 1 scholarship player who's last name starts with a letter after M.

[ZachTheZip]

From what I was told, with Diggs returning, there are no additional scholarships available. Barring a surprise defection, what we see is what we've got.

Maybe the guy I'm hearing about is coming as a walk-on. Or maybe Diggs is coming back as a walk-on like Cedric Middleton did. I just know there'll be somebody on the team next season whose name hasn't been mentioned anywhere yet.

[Dave in Green]

If he's on scholarship, Anonymous would go at the top of the alphabetical list.

[ZachTheZip]

If he's on scholarship, Anonymous would go at the top of the alphabetical list.

Actually, he would be at the bottom of that list. That, and the fact that he knows Pat Forsythe are the only things I'll say until we know for sure that everything's official.

[akronzips71]

Actually, he would be at the bottom of that list. That, and the fact that he knows Pat Forsythe are the only things I'll say until we know for sure that everything's official.

Forget the name. Would it be a MEANINGFUL addition?

Translation:

A seven footer, or a REALLY GOOD POINT GUARD?

Because otherwise you are just jerking our chain.

[ZachTheZip]

Forget the name. Would it be a MEANINGFUL addition?

Translation:

A seven footer, or a REALLY GOOD POINT GUARD?

Because otherwise you are just jerking our chain.

If that's your definition of meaningful, then our entire team next season must be awful in your eyes.

No, he's a utility player. Played every position but center in HS, but will probably be more of a guard with the Zips. Wasn't really recruited out of high school, because he missed his all-important junior year with an arm injury, and because he was leaning towards playing college baseball.

[akronzips71]

If that's your definition of meaningful, then our entire team next season must be awful in your eyes.

No, he's a utility player. Played every position but center in HS, but will probably be more of a guard with the Zips. Wasn't really recruited out of high school, because he missed his all-important junior year with an arm injury, and because he was leaning towards playing college baseball.

A bench warmer is nothing to get excited about. We have had some highly touted players that contributed nothing - Dakota, Justice, Petersen come to mind. Our weakest position is PG, as we all know.

Coming off the Zeke era, a really big guy would be nice.

Other than that, we have a solid crew and a "utility" player is just not very exciting.

[Dave in Green]

I appreciate learning anything new about Zips basketball, even if it's not about a guaranteed stud starter. You never know when another guy like Jonas Stalyga is going to show up to entertain us at the JAR with his can't-miss warmup shooting.

[ZachTheZip]

I appreciate learning anything new about Zips basketball, even if it's not about a guaranteed stud starter. You never know when another guy like Jonas Stalyga is going to show up to entertain us at the JAR with his can't-miss warmup shooting.

http://akronsportsnow.com/2-more-commit-akron-hoops-4816/

Then you'll enjoy this.

[akronzips71]

I appreciate learning anything new about Zips basketball, even if it's not about a guaranteed stud starter. You never know when another guy like Jonas Stalyga is going to show up to entertain us at the JAR with his can't-miss warmup shooting.

Yes, I forgot about him

Actually, I would like to see him play some minutes. It would be quite entertaining to watch him pump in 10 or 15 3's in a row.

[akronzips71]

http://akronsportsnow.com/2-more-commit-akron-hoops-4816/

Then you'll enjoy this.

Wheeler might be interesting. Hill is 5'10", not sure where that fits unless he is a super ball handler. Did not have much point production in high school.

[Dave in Green]

@ZachTheZip scores. Here's a little more on Hill at this link. And here's a nice story on Wheeler.

[akronzips71]

@ZachTheZip scores. Here's a little more on Hill at this link. And here's a nice story on Wheeler.

Wheeler sounds like he could be another Brian Walsh. We can ALWAYS use that.

Hill, not much offense and no height.

But maybe he is a great ball handler. Time will tell.

[GoZips]

QUOTE(GoZips @ Apr 24 2013, 01:53 PM) *

In reference to Darius Paul; NO. The MAC has rules to prohibit transferring from one MAC school to another.

These rules are the result of the tampering of Akron player Bubba Walther. He was lured to Ohio by an assistant

coach.

Not true. In any respect.

I apologize for taking so long to respond. The fact is: GoZips is correct.

The MAC prohibits any MAC school from offering financial aid in any form (i.e. scholarship) to any player seeking

to change schools with in the MAC. A player MAY pay his own way and transfer. He or she would have to sit out

one year under the regular NCAA transfer rules.

This rule was instituted as a result of the Bubba Walther incident.

I verified this with the men's coaching staff.

[Dave in Green]

OK, first of all, the NCAA allows each of its member conferences to make its own intra-conference transfer rules. Next, I found a copy of the recently revised (January 29, 2013) MAC intra-conference transfer rule on the Buffalo website:

NOTICE: MAC Intra-Conference Transfer Rule:

1. Intra-conference Transfers: The following student-athletes at Mid-American Conference Institutions and affiliate members shall be considered intra-conference transfers and thus subject to the following eligibility and financial aid provisions.

a. Current student-athletes who receive athletics related financial aid at a MAC institution and transfer to a second MAC institution.

b. Prospective student-athletes who attend summer session on athletics related financial aid prior to initial enrollment and transfer to a second MAC institution.

2. Eligibility: Intra-conference transfers shall be required by the certifying institution to fulfill a residence requirement of one full academic year from the date of transfer as well as the student-athlete shall lose one season of intercollegiate eligibility.

3. Financial Aid: Intra-conference transfers may not receive athletically related financial aid from the second MAC institution or aid granted through the intervention of athletic related interests during the initial academic year of transfer (i.e. first two semesters) Revised January 29, 2013.

So what GoZips says apparently only applies during the first season after a transfer from one MAC school to another. Other conferences have different rules.

Link to PDF document on Buffalo website

[GoZips]

OK, first of all, the NCAA allows each of its member conferences to make its own intra-conference transfer rules. Next, I found a copy of the recently revised (January 29, 2013) MAC intra-conference transfer rule on the Buffalo website:

So what GoZips says apparently only applies during the first season after a transfer from one MAC school to another. Other conferences have different rules.

***

2. Eligibility: Intra-conference transfers shall be required by the certifying institution to fulfill a residence requirement of one full academic year from the date of transfer as well as the student-athlete shall lose one season of intercollegiate eligibility.

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Link to PDF document on Buffalo website

So, according the the MAC rules the penalty for changing schools with in the conference is stiffer than first realized.

The student athlete who transfers after his sophomore year will be a Senior eligibility-wise after sitting out the required year.

This implies that the student athlete can not transfer after their Sophomore year.

A student athlete has five years to complete four years of eligibility. Transferring reduces that eligibility to just three years.