Dr Z Posted September 13, 2013 Report Posted September 13, 2013 Some "story." Whitlock juuuuuust might be on to something. "Carter, a former Cowboys safety, was one of the main individuals that alleged that Oklahoma State players were paid by coaches, boosters and had academic coordinators completing school work for players. He claimed to have graduated from the school and to have attended classes with former running back Tatum Bell. However, records show that he did not graduate and that Bell was not enrolled at the school at the time Carter claimed." Quote
GP1 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Posted September 13, 2013 So who does he work for then? Writers like him tend to write for a lot of people. His Wiki page showed him working for AOL. ESPN is the "Old News", similar to the current status of the NY Times. Almost anyone can be a reporter these days. The only real issue is whether your reporting is any good or not. This OkSt story is horribly researched and written. If the OK St. "story" was published in a high school news paper, would it be taken as serious as it is by many? The bias is in the thinking that SI represents a high standard for journalism. SI has turned into a bunch of "click" whores trying to get people to click on their website. Bad writing, bad reporter makes this story a bad story. A guy like Whitlock is exactly who ESPN needs working for them. Someone who will break them out of the "old sports media" and make them interesting again. ESPN employs a bunch of dinosaurs. It used to be a person on TV had to be able to speak and be understood. God bless him because he had a stroke, but Lee Corso can't even speak and Lou Holtz...enough said. Mike Ditka can't complete a sentence and doesn't understand the modern game. It's terrible entertainment trying to pass itself off as journalism. Quote
GP1 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Posted September 13, 2013 In the SI series today, we learn some athletes had school work completed by others. Shocking I know. News flash, non athletes can have others complete their school work for them if they are willing to pay or if a hot girl asks a nerd to do her calculus problems for her. How again is this news? OK State responds in the manner schools should in 2013. Don't let a bad report be the final word. Quote
LZIp Posted September 13, 2013 Report Posted September 13, 2013 In the SI series today, we learn some athletes had school work completed by others. Shocking I know. News flash, non athletes can have others complete their school work for them if they are willing to pay or if a hot girl asks a nerd to do her calculus problems for her. How again is this news? OK State responds in the manner schools should in 2013. Don't let a bad report be the final word. I learned about athletes having schoolwork done for them Wednesday. Today we learned about girls having sex with recruits. Quote
legendofzippy Posted September 13, 2013 Report Posted September 13, 2013 I learned about athletes having schoolwork done for them Wednesday. Today we learned about girls having sex with recruits. I don't think it's worth responding to GP1 anymore. Almost everything he's written about this has been horribly off the mark. I'd say he's an Okie State fan, but I've never met one so it doesn't seem likely. Anything that puts the heat on the larger programs is fine by me. It only helps the competitive balance for smaller schools, so why anyone here would care is strange. Quote
GP1 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Posted September 13, 2013 Anything that puts the heat on the larger programs is fine by me. It only helps the competitive balance for smaller schools, so why anyone here would care is strange. If a reporter went around and investigated non-BCS schools, would he find the following (yes): 1. Recruits having sex with girls. 2. Grade fixing. 3. Some money trading hands outside of ncaa rules. 4. Athletes smoking pot 5. Athletes selling pot (hits a little close to home) Here is why people should care about this non-story. Investigating the people at the bottom of the food chain in college athletics in such a haphazard manner, the players themselves, is an abuse of power by an institution such as SI. These reporters went out and picked on the weak. In lieu of picking on the weak, why aren't they out investigating who is making the real money in college athletics and how those people may be taking advantage of a corrupt system? The reason they don't do it is it is easy to pick on the weak. Coaches and ADs are too sophisticated with the media for a writer to produce a cliche story such as what this writer has written. Quote
GP1 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Posted September 13, 2013 Today we learned about girls having sex with recruits. College kids are having sex? This news is Earth shattering. How will college athletics survive? Quote
LZIp Posted September 13, 2013 Report Posted September 13, 2013 College kids are having sex? This news is Earth shattering. How will college athletics survive? College kids are having sex with underage high schoolers. Quote
Spin Posted September 14, 2013 Author Report Posted September 14, 2013 Since we are sticking to the facts here...Santonio has some yellow teeth...That's all I'm saying... Wait... Santonio can't read??? Quote
Buckzip Posted September 14, 2013 Report Posted September 14, 2013 A lot of schools have coeds escorting recruits around. Anything can and is expected to happen. Quote
legendofzippy Posted September 14, 2013 Report Posted September 14, 2013 The reason they don't do it is it is easy to pick on the weak. Les Miles is weak? Quote
Spin Posted September 14, 2013 Author Report Posted September 14, 2013 Didn't JD fire his recruiting coordinator because of recruiting violations? Quote
GP1 Posted September 14, 2013 Report Posted September 14, 2013 Les Miles is weak? No. Les Miles is strong and knows how to handle the media.... and has a machine around him to help with that. Most of the sources (an large number of them are not named) don't have a large institution around them to defend them...former players. They are the weakest in terms of ability to defend themselves against a media attach from an institution as large as SI. One was interviewed coming out of a Bible study and the writer didn't take notes. I'll give credit to Ok State here. They set up a website (linked to on an earlier post of mine) so former players would have a method of defending themselves or to point out inaccurate parts of the "story". Is it worth it to trample over a guy walking out of a Bible study in order to get at Les Miles or OK State? If that makes people feel good for some reason, it makes me sad about the future of our country. Quote
Dr Z Posted September 20, 2013 Report Posted September 20, 2013 Outlook...cloudy. SI doing another article on Arian Foster's free tacos. Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted September 20, 2013 Report Posted September 20, 2013 Didn't JD fire his recruiting coordinator because of recruiting violations? No. Quote
legendofzippy Posted September 20, 2013 Report Posted September 20, 2013 Is it worth it to trample over a guy walking out of a Bible study in order to get at Les Miles or OK State? If that makes people feel good for some reason, it makes me sad about the future of our country. So dramatic. Quote
GP1 Posted September 20, 2013 Report Posted September 20, 2013 Outlook...cloudy. SI doing another article on Arian Foster's free tacos. Thanks for posting this Dr Z. This is exactly the type of article that should be written. The comparison between what administrators and coaches are making to how the players live. Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted September 20, 2013 Report Posted September 20, 2013 Outlook...cloudy. SI doing another article on Arian Foster's free tacos. I think it could be argued that his coach paid his dues to get that Lexus, and if Foster compared his coach's living conditions and Ramen noodle intake at the age of 20 with his own present taco-eating status, he'd have more in common with Coach than he thinks. Quote
Zips Win! Posted September 21, 2013 Report Posted September 21, 2013 Just saw this on ESPN. Not buying it. Are there instances where the players are at a disadvantage and need some $. Sure. These guys are given an allowance for rent and food. Stop blowing your money all month on stuff and then you can eat. Put down the $100 per month phone, high speed internet connection and every other subscription that everyone is entitled to nowadays. Sure the day is coming where there is a stipend. Good. Send them all a 1099 at the end of the year for the value of a scholarship and the stipend and make them pay taxes. Then what? They will want even more... Quote
GP1 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Posted September 21, 2013 I think it could be argued that his coach paid his dues to get that Lexus, and if Foster compared his coach's living conditions and Ramen noodle intake at the age of 20 with his own present taco-eating status, he'd have more in common with Coach than he thinks. Coaches weren't making that money that many years ago. All they need to do is allow the guys to cash in on their fame. Quote
Spin Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Posted September 21, 2013 No. What was it for then? Quote
GP1 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Posted September 21, 2013 . Then what? They will want even more... Sounds like the coaches and athletic directors. How come nobody ever asks them to sacrifice? How come coaches can't cut back on the "coaches" who do thing like organize film or some administrative assistance and work more hours? Some of these guys are making millions a year. Let them really earn it. How about if the ADs cut back on their administration personnel? Ever look at the Zips website and the number of administrative people? What the heck do some of these people do? My wife works somewhere they are trying to curb some of their spending and are calling it "Operation Drunken Sailor". How come we never hear about something like this going on in athletic departments? Quote
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