Saint Mary's

[GP1]

We all know what the goals are, but those who whine about the lack of a tourney win or a huge road win can piss off as far as I'm concerned. Team and staff work hard and have given us plenty, they don't owe anyone anything.

If I'm not mistaken, KD is the highest paid employee in the Athletic Department. His salary has gone up in recent years. He has been given plenty as well. "To whom much has is given, much is expected." - JFK. Getting better and proving that improvement on the court should be expected of him. As far as working hard, that's what everyone is expected to do.

With that said, I'm willing to write off the other night until I see more. The Zips had a horrible early season loss at CCU last year and shook it off pretty quickly. They traveled out west and played in the middle of the night. Odd circumstances can produce odd results. I'm going with that until we see more.

[skip-zip]

I have a feeling, at least based on the first two games, that Keith is probably going to allow Evans to come along through the course of the season, and hope Betancourt can at least give us some kind of production in between. As I said earlier, Evans was running the point for the last 4-5 minutes of the CCU game, when we were trying to run out the clock. That's pretty convincing to me, as far as where the coach stands on who is currently the man he wants to trust with the game on the line.

I disagree that Diggs can be a primary ball handler. I love him on the isolation plays, and he is creative with the ball, but I don't see that happening in the coaches plan. Not with a guy who only has about 20 or so games remaining in his career.

Someone brought up a good point: You won't get many assists when you are shooting as poorly as we shot the other night. If Coach really believes that Evans is the man, and he can be patient as he comes along this season, look for nothing much to change in the coming games as far as him playing 20 or more minutes at the point.

If that changes, it might be our best indication that Coach is thinking about other options.

[legendofzippy]

If I'm not mistaken, KD is the highest paid employee in the Athletic Department. His salary has gone up in recent years. He has been given plenty as well. "To whom much has is given, much is expected." - JFK. Getting better and proving that improvement on the court should be expected of him. As far as working hard, that's what everyone is expected to do.

With that said, I'm willing to write off the other night until I see more. The Zips had a horrible early season loss at CCU last year and shook it off pretty quickly. They traveled out west and played in the middle of the night. Odd circumstances can produce odd results. I'm going with that until we see more.

JFK may have said that, but it's a biblical reference to a parable about those who have received blessings from God. I'd say relating it to a coach's salary is a stretch. Dambrot's Jewish so it doesn't apply anyway.

As far as coach earning his contract, he's done that. But some on here feel entitled to more, which is absurd.

[GP1]

As far as coach earning his contract, he's done that. But some on here feel entitled to more, which is absurd.

Has KD earned the money UofA pays him?...Maybe. I think I could make a good case for KD getting paid what he was before his raise and there would be no flight risk. Raises are not given for what people have done. They are given to keep people who you think can do better. Are the Zips getting better?...We'll find out this year and the next.

I don't think any fan feels they are entitled to anything and I don't get that feeling from the Board members. The expectations are higher and they should be higher. I don't know what the costs are to go to a Zips BB game, but I would bet those costs have gone up (my bet is the food in the JAR is not better though). If that is the case, why wouldn't the expectations go up? There is nothing wrong with high expectations. There is nothing wrong with asking a program to do better than it has in the past because there are MAC schools that have had better success than us during the season and post season...in very recent years. If other schools can do it, why shouldn't we expect the same out of this basketball program? Why shouldn't we expect that out of the highest paid employee of the Athletic Department?

[LZIp]

As far as coach earning his contract, he's done that. But some on here feel entitled to more, which is absurd.

He has done a good job, but why is asking for a little bit of improvement such a big no-no?

The program hasn't improved in the past 5-6 years. We compete in the MAC yearly, which is a horrible conference outside of the top 2-3 teams every season. We do not compete in the big OOC/tournament games.

If TB turned the football program around, it would be damn great. "Turning it around" would be hovering around .500 yearly and making bowl games. If he continued to stay at .500 and lost his bowl game every year, wouldn't people start to want more? I fail to see a problem with that, especially when the alternative is to be comfortable with mediocrity.

[tomzip]

He has done a good job, but why is asking for a little bit of improvement such a big no-no?

The program hasn't improved in the past 5-6 years. We compete in the MAC yearly, which is a horrible conference outside of the top 2-3 teams every season. We do not compete in the big OOC/tournament games.

If TB turned the football program around, it would be damn great. "Turning it around" would be hovering around .500 yearly and making bowl games. If he continued to stay at .500 and lost his bowl game every year, wouldn't people start to want more? I fail to see a problem with that, especially when the alternative is to be comfortable with mediocrity.

I agree, yes this beats the Coleman Crawford and Dan Hipsher years, but maybe one OOC Road win, at least come close in an NCAA tourney game. I hate watching OU and Can't State come up with big wins and we get rolled by VCU, St. Mary's and the like (yes I know VCU was a bad timing issue etc..). I agree, the MAC has maybe 4 decent teams, outside of that, not so much..so lets get to the next level, beat MTSU this Saturday and then onto Hawaii to sweep it hopefully

[legendofzippy]

Has KD earned the money UofA pays him?...Maybe. I think I could make a good case for KD getting paid what he was before his raise and there would be no flight risk. Raises are not given for what people have done. They are given to keep people who you think can do better. Are the Zips getting better?...We'll find out this year and the next.

I don't think any fan feels they are entitled to anything and I don't get that feeling from the Board members. The expectations are higher and they should be higher. I don't know what the costs are to go to a Zips BB game, but I would bet those costs have gone up (my bet is the food in the JAR is not better though). If that is the case, why wouldn't the expectations go up? There is nothing wrong with high expectations. There is nothing wrong with asking a program to do better than it has in the past because there are MAC schools that have had better success than us during the season and post season...in very recent years. If other schools can do it, why shouldn't we expect the same out of this basketball program? Why shouldn't we expect that out of the highest paid employee of the Athletic Department?

What a great argument. "I have no idea if costs have gone up, but I'm going to say they have to support my point." In the future, try facts.

Expecting more? Fine. But I don't have the time to repost every whiny statement in here where people are boo-hooing because other MAC teams went on tournament runs and we haven't. The NCAA tournament is great, but a lot of it rides on getting lucky with matchups and having a few hot shooters.

We've been to the MAC championship 7 years in a row, there's a great team on the floor right now, and we have a great group of talented freshman. There's very little to be complaining about, but the entitlement crowd finds a way.

[Dr Z]

The NCAA tournament is great, but a lot of it rides on getting lucky with matchups and having a few hot shooters.

Wow. Glad your not marketing March Madness (one of, if not the, biggest sporting event) this year.

World Series are great, but it rides on lucky bounces of the ball, and a few hot hitters.

Think bigger.

[Captain Kangaroo]

What a great argument. "I have no idea if costs have gone up, but I'm going to say they have to support my point." In the future, try facts.

Expecting more? Fine. But I don't have the time to repost every whiny statement in here where people are boo-hooing because other MAC teams went on tournament runs and we haven't. The NCAA tournament is great, but a lot of it rides on getting lucky with matchups and having a few hot shooters.

We've been to the MAC championship 7 years in a row, there's a great team on the floor right now, and we have a great group of talented freshman. There's very little to be complaining about, but the entitlement crowd finds a way.

There are many who consider you to be acting like an entitled whiner.

[taxpayer]

Has KD earned his money? Are you serious? Akron was a consistent non entity in hoops until the current run KD has produced. I know big Bobby H was here and did well but his run isn't comparable.

KD and UA consistent appearance in the MAC title game for 6 or 7 years is ridiculously excellent. It isn't his fault that the MAC can't produce competition beyond 2 or 3 other programs. Plus, KD recruits into the worse facility in the MAC. The only other facilities that could compete for worse is the mess located in Miami, OH. Cants' building is old but they understand that getting students on top of the floor is important. It's old but it's a madhouse to play in.

So, has KD earned his money? I'd say he has more than earned it. If he had a better facility with a practice gym to boot he could bring in even higher ranked recruits IMO.

UA's sport's marketing program along with some Zip bball players are beginning to get the student population into the gym by developing a "relationship". Figure out a way to get the students closer to the floor and dedicate several sections to them so they not only feel apart of the game but can actually begin to have an effect not only on the opposition but on the Zips as well.

Last year, I believed the Zips were getting their 1st NCAA win, then AA's debacle, injury and sickness cost us 2 starters and also cost us the season ending loss to Cant which dropped us in the March Madness selection process resulting in the worse possible opponent we could have drawn with our starting 1 & 2 gone.

This year's team will struggle until mid January IMO. A win at MTSU would be a nice boost to the team and supporters but once again, the goal is to win the MAC and win in the tourney. A loss at MTSU will have some of you ready to abandon ship unfortunately but the coaches and team know they've got some improving to do and have the talent to do so but it's a process and that takes time.

Go Zips, we got your back!

[legendofzippy]

There are many who consider you to be acting like an entitled whiner.

Well those people are morons so who gives a crap.

[legendofzippy]

Wow. Glad your not marketing March Madness (one of, if not the, biggest sporting event) this year.

World Series are great, but it rides on lucky bounces of the ball, and a few hot hitters.

Think bigger.

What does how big the event is have to do with anything? The biggest is the Super Bowl, and the recent Giant teams are the perfect example of getting hot at the right time to win at all. Or the Ravens last year. One-and-done tournaments are incredibly difficult, and March Madness has three weekends of it.

I agree on the World Series, though you get 7 games so it's hard to complain much.