JD & KD raises

[a-zip]

Too many sidebars from other topics on this subject, so I figured I would try and dedicate this one to our most important priority..... Keeping JD & KD.I have posted along time ago here and on MCABBs that in order for the MAC to get competitive we need to keep great coaches. A consistent/winning coach will springboard us and the MAC above other conferences. We are not that far behind CUSA and the BigEast. Lets get rid of the "Cradle of Coaches" tag and keep these guys.Ideas on how to do it?Bump up the salaries and pay MAJOR bonuses for post season wins. Everything will snowball with increased attendance- TV games, better homegame schedule, and recruits that will want to play in a system and coach they know will be there for their collegiate career. New stadium is important too, give them a % of the gate. 10K at the Rubberbowl or 30K at a new stadium on campus (which is not unrealistic). The net gain is better for the U.We have the guys RIGHT NOW to do it. Lets not blow it and have to start over. Prove Lolla wrong!

[zip37]

AGREE-- WE MUST KEEP THEM BOTH, LET'S DO IT MAC!!!!!!!!!!!

[Valpo Zip]

Giving those coaches a raise and keeping them are 2 different things !You can give them any raise you want, and sign them for as many years as you want and they will still leave when they get called by a BCS school... I am all for giving them raises but no body should think that they will be locked.

[zipsbandman]

Exactly, if the juggernauts want our guys they're going to get them. But I'm sick of the Cincies and Louisvilles of the world picking us apart.

[zipper]

I believe it's true that they, especially JD, would leave for a BCS job. But if we treat them poorly, pay-wise, it will hurt us when we go to get another coach. Coaching seems to be a small world, and you can bet if JD or Keith left, any candidates would be calling them to ask about the issues: pay, budget, what's the AD like to work for, the president. Sometimes I think the most important thing is getting along with the boss. I know money isn't as important to me as having a great relationship with my CEO (who is great, btw). So I guess I'm more concerned with whether or not JD or Keith like the new guy.

[Balki Bartokomous]

ahh, the 207,684th thread about the same topic

[zipper]

Whatever. But I think this is a new point: it's important to treat the current coach very well in order to pave the road for future interest. Look, if JD is unhappy, that's a big problem. Maybe not this year or next, but after he leaves for the BCS. These guys talk.

[Ryno aka Menace]

I say if JD beats Miami, one of the 3 BCS schools, and wins the MAC again or even comes close we make him the highest paid coach in the conference....By doing so I think we make a statement to our conference, fans, and the rest of the country that the ZIPS are for real and in due time will be the next big thing since pants with pockets. I think it is important that we have another successful season to proves last season was not a fluke. I admire JD and would like to see him be successful but lets be honest we did under perform against Army and Central Michigan, and for that reason I am not quite ready to just give him the farm. If he falls short or finishes second in the conference he gets a modest reasonable raise....Now IF he beats a BCS school, wins the MAC again, and wins a bowl game. I will seriously be worried then cause that is alot of progress in a short time and that is the recipe called "look'n 4 a new coach". No amount of money will keep anyone anywhere that's just the kind of world we live in, but you can atleast make him the highest paid in the conference if he is take'n it to em.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Whatever. But I think this is a new point: it's important to treat the current coach very well in order to pave the road for future interest. Look, if JD is unhappy, that's a big problem. Maybe not this year or next, but after he leaves for the BCS. These guys talk.

this is a new point? give me a break. people on here have been bitching about JD and KD not getting a raise since they won their first game at Akron. Go back through the threads.

[zipper]

Hey, tough guy, I contributed to those threads. It was new to this thread. My big bad. geesh.At any rate, this is a bigger problem than many think. If Akron is short-sighted, it will be a problem in the end, whether JD stays OR goes. This is just one of those things that you have to do to be able to compete for good coaches down the road.

[fear the brown roo]

At any rate, this is a bigger problem than many think. If Akron is short-sighted, it will be a problem in the end, whether JD stays OR goes. This is just one of those things that you have to do to be able to compete for good coaches down the road.

i totally agree. get this done ASAP

[Zipmeister]

Now IF he beats a BCS school, wins the MAC again, and wins a bowl game. I will seriously be worried then cause that is alot of progress in a short time and that is the recipe called "look'n 4 a new coach". No amount of money will keep anyone anywhere that's just the kind of world we live in, but you can atleast make him the highest paid in the conference if he is take'n it to em.

If all that happens, no raise will be needed cause he's gone...and that's a lock.

[GP1]

I say if JD beats Miami, one of the 3 BCS schools, and wins the MAC again or even comes close we make him the highest paid coach in the conference....By doing so I think we make a statement to our conference, fans, and the rest of the country that the ZIPS are for real and in due time will be the next big thing since pants with pockets. I think it is important that we have another successful season to proves last season was not a fluke. I admire JD and would like to see him be successful but lets be honest we did under perform against Army and Central Michigan, and for that reason I am not quite ready to just give him the farm. If he falls short or finishes second in the conference he gets a modest reasonable raise....Now IF he beats a BCS school, wins the MAC again, and wins a bowl game. I will seriously be worried then cause that is alot of progress in a short time and that is the recipe called "look'n 4 a new coach". No amount of money will keep anyone anywhere that's just the kind of world we live in, but you can atleast make him the highest paid in the conference if he is take'n it to em.

I'm sort of in the same opinion but for different reasons. I should also say that I'm a huge JD fan.I don't know what JD is making, but it is a lot more than what he was making at Pittsburgh. The next guy we have here will come from the same boat JD came from which is the young guy looking for a break or USS Help. I don't believe the money is a deal breaker for a guy coming from this ship as they are looking for opportunity and not the money.If JD is making over $200,000 per year, the school should not give him any more than a 10% raise after next season if they make it to the MACC. Any more will not be money well spent because any offer he receives from a BCS school will be in excess of $500,000 and Akron just can not afford to pay that amount. I hate it as much as the next person, but it's just the reality of being in a league like the MAC. Coaches come and go and use it to crawl up the coaching ladder.

[a-zip]

If George Mason can do it, why can't we? Read the link below regarding the impact it has on the entire University. If we could keep TWO coaches in major sports and get a buzz going, everyone will prosper.George Mason BasketballDetails of new deal for Larranaga

George Mason coach Jim Larranaga made almost as much in postseason bonuses in March ($168,800) as he did in base salary (about $196,500).The new contract he signed last month has a base salary of $375,000, with raises to be determined through 2012.USA TODAY obtained copies of Larranaga's new and old contracts through an open-records request. Last season, the coach received four bonuses:* $10,000 for winning 19 or more regular-season games (it remains in the new deal)* $25,000 for staying at the school (it rises to $75,000 each season of the new deal)* $68,800 for making the Final Four: 10% of his base salary for making the NCAA Tournament; an additional 5% each for reaching rounds two, three and four; and an additional 10% for reaching the Final Four. He could have earned an additional 15% for winning the national title. (Those percentages stay the same in the new deal, except for an additional 10%, rather than 5%, for reaching round four.)* $100,000 for public relations considerations during the NCAA Tournament. Unlike the others, this bonus was not part of his contract but was offered as a goodwill gesture. "That was a one-time payment for all the good things that happened and it's very easy to justify,'' said athletics director Tom O'Connor.* Larranaga did not earn a bonus of as much as 10% of his base salary for the academic record of his team. The new contract ties that bonus in part to the Academic Progress Rate, a new NCAA formula.Larranaga's new contract, like his old one, includes a full membership for him at the Country Club of Fairfax, the use of an automobile (Ford Expedition or comparable) and 25 season tickets.He can earn outside income from speeches, basketball camps and commercial endorsements after clearing it with O'Connor.

[mrelegazna]

The GMU/Larranage situation shows that it CAN be done.But still, that's the exception, not the rule. I would never begrudge JD for taking a big BCS job and I wouldn't hold it against the Athletic Dept. or University for "not doing enough" to keep him here either. Let's do all we can to keep him and hope that he doesn't define happiness by BCS bowls and boosters. But even if he does, we can and will move on and recover.

[Captain Kangaroo]

The GMU/Larranage situation shows that it CAN be done.But still, that's the exception, not the rule. I would never begrudge JD for taking a big BCS job and I wouldn't hold it against the Athletic Dept. or University for "not doing enough" to keep him here either. Let's do all we can to keep him and hope that he doesn't define happiness by BCS bowls and boosters. But even if he does, we can and will move on and recover.

Keep in mind Larranega left Bowling Green for George Mason for more money. GM has some deep pockets.Also George Mason is located near a...maybe THE premier HS basketball hotbed in NE Virginia/metro DC. And George Mason's primary sport is basketball. They don't have football. Their arena is awesome, seating 10,000 with big-time amenities.Although George Mason seems like a mid-major equivalent to Akron, they offer quite a bit that a school like Akron can't. Larrenega's $400,000/year+incentives dwarfs what any MAC school could offer.

[Ryno aka Menace]

I have a stupid question, with more wins = more ticket sales = more university income which in turn = more money for JD or is that wishful thinking.

[a-zip]

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Keep in mind Larranega left Bowling Green for George Mason for more money. GM has some deep pockets.Also George Mason is located near a...maybe THE premier HS basketball hotbed in NE Virginia/metro DC. And George Mason's primary sport is basketball. They don't have football. Their arena is awesome, seating 10,000 with big-time amenities.Although George Mason seems like a mid-major equivalent to Akron, they offer quite a bit that a school like Akron can't. Larrenega's $400,000/year+incentives dwarfs what any MAC school could offer.

.I will be pissed if we screw up K.D.

Edited September 20, 2024 by a-zip

[a-zip]

I have a stupid question, with more wins = more ticket sales = more university income which in turn = more money for JD or is that wishful thinking.

That is exactly my point, thank you.Also add higher quality home schedules, television exposure, more applications, higher quality students, more donations.

[Captain Kangaroo]

I have a stupid question, with more wins = more ticket sales = more university income which in turn = more money for JD or is that wishful thinking.

That is exactly my point, thank you.Also add higher quality home schedules, television exposure, more applications, higher quality students, more donations.

We need the new stadium for all that to come into play. The Rubber Bowl is a primary contributing factor to poor attendance and low revenue.Winning team + new stadium = More fans, Higher ticker profits, More Parking Profits, more merchandise sales, More Alumni involvement on campus and subsequently more donations, more appeal to corporate sponsors, luxury boxes etc.You can only do so much with the 66 year old Rubber Bowl and it's fractured fiberglass seats. Even if you get 20k, the tickets are sold at a pretty cheap price w/a ton of giveaways and parking is $4.00.

[Ryno aka Menace]

I have a stupid question, with more wins = more ticket sales = more university income which in turn = more money for JD or is that wishful thinking.

That is exactly my point, thank you.Also add higher quality home schedules, television exposure, more applications, higher quality students, more donations.

We need the new stadium for all that to come into play. The Rubber Bowl is a primary contributing factor to poor attendance and low revenue.Winning team + new stadium = More fans, Higher ticker profits, More Parking Profits, more merchandise sales, More Alumni involvement on campus and subsequently more donations, more appeal to corporate sponsors, luxury boxes etc.You can only do so much with the 66 year old Rubber Bowl and it's fractured fiberglass seats. Even if you get 20k, the tickets are sold at a pretty cheap price w/a ton of giveaways and parking is $4.00.

Damn, so once again we NEED this stadium project to get done!!!