Zipmeister Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Shockingly low 53% so far this season (hey we're better than EMU & Kansas).May not be the most critical stat for success, however, at least for the Zips.In the three seasons in which the Zips had ONE win each, their percentages were 81, 80 and 85. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 In the three seasons in which the Zips had ONE win each, their percentages were 81, 80 and 85.Agreed. That's what I hate about stats. If your in the red zone once and score a field goal and get beat 56-3, your 100%. Great.None of this matters against EMU, Miami, Umass, Ken+, etc... I'm concerned when/if we play in bigger games this year. Trust me, from watching games live, we have an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Trust me, from watching games live, we have an issue. I'm not a very trusting person. Especially of the opinions on this board. Frequently I read the opinions on this board and then wonder if I'm watching the same teams as everyone else when I see them play because what I see is normally the opposite of what everyone else sees. You're going to have to earn some trust back after your inability to put this red zone stat into perspective over the past two weeks. I expect more out of one of the boards better posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 2014 Zips red zone scoring:53.33% (season)58.33% (last 3)60.00% (last 1)Clearly it's been trending up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 My perspective on the Zips' red zone stat over the past two weeks is that it was rendered inconsequential by virtue of the Zips' defense holding its two opponents to a total of just 16 points or an average of 8 points per game.Wins and losses are determined by the sum of scoring offense and scoring defense. The Zips are currently a lofty #28 in scoring defense, but a lowly #111 in scoring offense, with the #126 red zone scoring percentage being a major contributor.The question is whether fans should be overly worried about any one aspect of the Zips' game as long as all aspects of their game combined result in a winning margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 In my opinion, the difference is that in the redzone, the defense has a smaller area to cover and no longer have to leave gaps in the zone and their DBs get pushed up toward the line by default. If you have a dominant O-line, the dbacks will crowd it to protect the run, and still leave gaps behind it even in the red zone. If you don't have a dominant O-line, the only way to keep a defense honest is to beat them with quick slants, outlets, draws, and unfortunately even a few gadgets. Then, the coverage wont be so crowded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 We talked earlier about fans looking at stats differently than coaches do. Coaches have access to more advanced statistics, they spend more time analyzing them and they're smarter about the fine details of the game than most fans. So what happens if we try to take a closer look at why the Zips red zone scoring percentage is so low. (Disclaimer: I am not nor have ever been a football coach).The first thing to consider is that scoring percentage is based on both touchdowns and field goals. The success rate of field goal attempts is generally higher than for touchdowns. In the red zone a field goal attempt is often considered a chip shot gimme. So more field goal attempts tend to push up a team's red zone scoring percentage.The Zips' 19 trips to the red zone rank them a slightly above average #61, but they're currently tied for 4th from the bottom in field goal attempts per game with a total of 5 and an average of only 1 -- all short kicks from the red zone. The first 2 short field goal attempts of the season failed and the kicker was replaced, resulting in making 3 of the last 3. The total of 3-5 is a poor 60% for the season.One conclusion to draw from this is that if the Zips had started the season with a more reliable field goal kicker, and if they had attempted a more typical number of field goals in their 19 trips to the red zone, their red zone scoring percentage would be more respectable than the current 53.3%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Frequently I read the opinions on this board and then wonder if I'm watching the same teams as everyone else when I see them play because what I see is normally the opposite of what everyone else sees. There's a good reason for that GP1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I'm not a very trusting person. Especially of the opinions on this board. Frequently I read the opinions on this board and then wonder if I'm watching the same teams as everyone else when I see them play because what I see is normally the opposite of what everyone else sees. You're going to have to earn some trust back after your inability to put this red zone stat into perspective over the past two weeks. I expect more out of one of the boards better posters.I'd be a little less trusting of your own opinion after the Pitt/Akron game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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