Bowl Costs for MAC Teams vs. Power 5

[Captain Kangaroo]

I found this topic on the MACbbs. Hopefully we need to worry about this one day....

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[Balsy]

I found this topic on the MACbbs. Hopefully we need to worry about this one day....

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This kinda boggles my mind, and answers the question as to why there are so many bowl games. I mean the bowl provides the hotel but not the cost of travel? IMO that's an absolute joke. Another example of people making money off a system in which they don't contribute.

I like football, but I like science more. You can equip a lab with brand new equipment for less than $600,000... Stupid waste of money. Western Nearly spent $1,000,000.

I was always under the impression that schools were compensated for attending Bowl games. Ridiculous.

[LZIp]

This kinda boggles my mind, and answers the question as to why there are so many bowl games. I mean the bowl provides the hotel but not the cost of travel? IMO that's an absolute joke. Another example of people making money off a system in which they don't contribute.

I like football, but I like science more. You can equip a lab with brand new equipment for less than $600,000... Stupid waste of money. Western Nearly spent $1,000,000.

I was always under the impression that schools were compensated for attending Bowl games. Ridiculous.

I like football more. The bowl provides teams with an extra month or so of practice, additional exposure, excitement about the program (more involved fan base= more merchandise and ticket sales), and a benefit to recruiting. Teams and Universities feel it is worth the cost. I don't care enough to look it up, but I am pretty sure there is some compensation for bowl games.

[zippy5]

This kinda boggles my mind, and answers the question as to why there are so many bowl games. I mean the bowl provides the hotel but not the cost of travel? IMO that's an absolute joke. Another example of people making money off a system in which they don't contribute.

I like football, but I like science more. You can equip a lab with brand new equipment for less than $600,000... Stupid waste of money. Western Nearly spent $1,000,000.

I was always under the impression that schools were compensated for attending Bowl games. Ridiculous.

If it wasn't profitable for the bowl, they wouldn't run it. Paying for travel of a few hundred people would probably make it unprofitable which would = no bowl game. No one forces a team to accept the bid and go lose money.

[Balsy]

If it wasn't profitable for the bowl, they wouldn't run it. Paying for travel of a few hundred people would probably make it unprofitable which would = no bowl game. No one forces a team to accept the bid and go lose money.

Again, making a profit off of something they had no stake in. It's a cycle. If you don't accept the bid, it puts you at a competitive disadvantage. If you're at a competitive disadvantage, you might be risking the bloated amount you've already invested in your athletics. So, naturally, you have to invest more to maintain what you've already invested.

Students (what a university exists for) are working out of lab last renovated in the 70's...while a football team takes a trip to the bahamas. Stupid.

I like football more...additional exposure, excitement about the program...and a benefit to recruiting. Teams and Universities feel it is worth the cost. I don't care enough to look it up, but I am pretty sure there is some compensation for bowl games.

I find that very concerning. As an insitution of higher ed, education should always be the first priority.

And I'd like to see a cost benefit analysis on the impacts of a bowl game on a University, I don't buy that the impact is all that much.

Now, I'm playing the devil's advocate here, I love the Zips, I want (as a fan) to be a bowl game. But we've got to have an objective conversation about this. The cost of College athletics is absolutely out of control, and this is an example of it.

[Captain Kangaroo]

My Marketing Plan:

1.) Skip the bowl game

2.) Send out a Tweet referencing #TeamOhio

3.) Reap the exposure reward$ without spending a dime

[K92]

There are now 42 bowl games, which is beyond ridiculous.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2015/05/05/college-football-bowl-games-austin-orlando-tucson/26965461/

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2015-05-06/42-bowl-games-on-2015-schedule-below-500-teams-attendance-tv-ratings-concerns

What's more ridiculous than 42 bowl games is that the Zips still can't make it to one.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2015/05/with_continued_expansion_bowl_games_are_nearing_pa.html

Most schools lose money to be in bowl games. There are dozens of articles on the subject. The people who stand to reap the biggest financial rewards from these bowls seem to be the CEOs.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls12/story/_/id/8820569/time-bowls-do-more-their-own

[Balsy]

There are now 42 bowl games, which is beyond ridiculous.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2015/05/05/college-football-bowl-games-austin-orlando-tucson/26965461/

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2015-05-06/42-bowl-games-on-2015-schedule-below-500-teams-attendance-tv-ratings-concerns

What's more ridiculous than 42 bowl games is that the Zips still can't make it to one.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2015/05/with_continued_expansion_bowl_games_are_nearing_pa.html

Most schools lose money to be in bowl games. There are dozens of articles on the subject. The people who stand to reap the biggest financial rewards from these bowls seem to be the CEOs.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls12/story/_/id/8820569/time-bowls-do-more-their-own

Exactly my point. Akron will make one this year, mark my words. The question is: is it really worth it?

The Fan in me says of course it is!

The student who graduated with a degree in science, says no it's not.

[LZIp]

Again, making a profit off of something they had no stake in. It's a cycle. If you don't accept the bid, it puts you at a competitive disadvantage. If you're at a competitive disadvantage, you might be risking the bloated amount you've already invested in your athletics. So, naturally, you have to invest more to maintain what you've already invested.

Students (what a university exists for) are working out of lab last renovated in the 70's...while a football team takes a trip to the bahamas. Stupid.

I find that very concerning. As an insitution of higher ed, education should always be the first priority.

And I'd like to see a cost benefit analysis on the impacts of a bowl game on a University, I don't buy that the impact is all that much.

Now, I'm playing the devil's advocate here, I love the Zips, I want (as a fan) to be a bowl game. But we've got to have an objective conversation about this. The cost of College athletics is absolutely out of control, and this is an example of it.

Somewhat of a summary of a cost/benefit analysis along with some other interesting tidbits (the MAC covered 4 million in expenses for NIU's Orange Bowl)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leigh-steinberg/is-the-weedeater-bowl-gam_b_2421520.html

The actual report if you care enough to purchase

http://www.nber.org/papers/w18196

[OU Dude]

for those that think 42 bowls is too many- 14 bowls have been added in the last 10 years, 21 of the 28 new bowl spots go to G5 teams. The real problem isn't the total number of bowls its the total number of guaranteed bowl spots for the P5. 9 out of 14 teams in a conference should not be guaranteed a bowl game but that is the average for the P5. The P5 are to blame for the gluttony of bowls.

[Balsy]

Somewhat of a summary of a cost/benefit analysis along with some other interesting tidbits (the MAC covered 4 million in expenses for NIU's Orange Bowl)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leigh-steinberg/is-the-weedeater-bowl-gam_b_2421520.html

The actual report if you care enough to purchase

http://www.nber.org/papers/w18196

Good find, but after reading that I want to