zipsoutsider Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 The game notes with the depth chart is available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) Quick observations....Marcus and Jordan George appear to be out injured. Brian Bell took his spot back over Junius. Hope getting the nod over Jones opposite of Scott. Edited August 29, 2016 by LZIp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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K92 Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 My goodness, are we stacked at WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 19 minutes ago, K92 said: My goodness, are we stacked at WR. And only 1 of them is a senior, meanwhile, we have 2 NC State transfers ready for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzx Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 I never knew that Matthew Hoyer was a long snapper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 My goodness the Offense will be incredibly scary next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted August 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 hour ago, zzx said: I never knew that Matthew Hoyer was a long snapper. He probably isn't but could do in a pinch. Better to travel 3 QBs than 2 LS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 I am a little surprised Copeland is starting over Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, Zipgrad01 said: I am a little surprised Copeland is starting over Hamilton. +1. I remember hearing Bowden mention that Copeland was playing at a high level - a level that they thought he could reach coming out of high school. But that high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted August 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 I thought there were some transfer or academic issues that Hamilton still had to clear up? Did I read that on ZN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) And I'll say this again... because I obviously know better than Amato & Bowden. Newman Williams, 6-2, 273. He needs to be at LB or DL. Not 2nd string TE. Get him on the field. Edited August 29, 2016 by Blue & Gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzx Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, Zipgrad01 said: I am a little surprised Copeland is starting over Hamilton. Actually, Brock Boxen is starting over Hamilton at DT. Copeland is starting at NT. NT and DT are two different positions in the 4-3 defense. According to this article, the DT commonly uses the 3 technique (lined up on outside shoulder of the guard) and NT the 1 technique (lined up on outside shoulder of center). Additionally, these positions are usually manned with players of different body types primarily because of their particular job responsibilities. Compared to the frequently faster DT, the NT is often shorter in height for greater leverage, heavier in weight to create a barrier and clog the rushing lanes, and stronger. The primary job of the NT is to stop the run. The DT must also stop the run and is additionally a more versatile pass rusher. Edited August 30, 2016 by zzx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 4 hours ago, zzx said: Actually, Brock Boxen is starting over Hamilton at DT. Copeland is starting at NT. NT and DT are two different positions in the 4-3 defense. According to this article, the DT commonly uses the 3 technique (lined up on outside shoulder of the guard) and NT the 1 technique (lined up on outside shoulder of center). Additionally, these positions are usually manned with players of different body types primarily because of their particular job responsibilities. Compared to the frequently faster DT, the NT is often shorter in height for greater leverage, heavier in weight to create a barrier and clog the rushing lanes, and stronger. The primary job of the NT is to stop the run. The DT must also stop the run and is additionally a more versatile pass rusher. Excellent article! Thank you for sharing. I always thought a DT was a DT was a DT. Didn't know the difference between a DT & NT - thought it was just semantics. Love ZN.o. Learn something on here almost every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) Actually, I always thought that an NT was the middle guy in the 3-man front. In a 4-man front, don't most people usually just refer to them as 2 DT's and 2 DE's? Edited August 30, 2016 by skip-zip edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZippers Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 27 minutes ago, skip-zip said: Actually, I always thought that an NT was the middle guy in the 3-man front. In a 4-man front, don't most people usually just refer to them as 2 DT's and 2 DE's? According to my understanding, it depends on the 4-man front. Some have a balanced d-line where both DTs are lined up somewhere across from the offense's guard. The scheme that we use has a DT lined up between the guard and tackle on the strong side of the ball and a NT lined up between the center and the guard on the weak side. In this scheme it is correct to differentiate the DTs from the NTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Article is accurate but not always followed. The days of a defense having 2-DE, 2-DT, 2-OLB and a MLB are over. Now you have SSDE, WSDE, Will LB, Sam LB and Mike LB. oh, and I'm not so sure how seriously I can take any article that has a DT or a NT wearing #12. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, Buckzip said: Article is accurate but not always followed. The days of a defense having 2-DE, 2-DT, 2-OLB and a MLB are over. Now you have SSDE, WSDE, Will LB, Sam LB and Mike LB. oh, and I'm not so sure how seriously I can take any article that has a DT or a NT wearing #12. ? Hey...Rodney Coe wore #9! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, LZIp said: Hey...Rodney Coe wore #9! But that is still not #12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 I would love to see coach Amato whiteboard some different defensive sets he uses. I posted this before, but here is coach Cowher describing some of his different sets and techniques he used in his defenses. Much of this translates. Watching the video again made me think of MTB. When I heard he was moving to TE, I immediately thought of the "Y off." With a lot of our games on ESPN3, we should be able to take some screen captures and follow and diagnose our defensive front alignments. I'll be happy to start that thread next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 2 hours ago, Dr Z said: I would love to see coach Amato whiteboard some different defensive sets he uses. I posted this before, but here is coach Cowher describing some of his different sets and techniques he used in his defenses. Much of this translates. Watching the video again made me think of MTB. When I heard he was moving to TE, I immediately thought of the "Y off." With a lot of our games on ESPN3, we should be able to take some screen captures and follow and diagnose our defensive front alignments. I'll be happy to start that thread next week. Thanks for the video. I am currently reading the Pat Kirwan book that you had recommended a couple of years back. Interesting guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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