zipsoutsider Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 On 1/13/2017 at 5:17 PM, skip-zip said: I was wondering if anyone else knew this. Tommy brought Dabo to Clemson after he was part of an entire staff that got let go from Alabama, and was completely out of coaching for 2 years. So, I wonder if Dabo is thanking Tommy today for the National Championship trophy he's holding? Let's all remember that Dabo gave props to Terry Don Phillips & Tommy Bowden today. Well deserved, gentlemen. And thank you. #GoTigers — Tajh Boyd's Helmet (@TajhBoydshelmet) January 15, 2017 1 Quote
skip-zip Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 13 hours ago, zipsoutsider said: I am not sure why there is so much criticism for Edwards. I thought he performed fairly well for an offense that revolves around the pass. He isn't Ball, I will concede that, but he is at worst, an average MAC RB. He might not rank with Ball, Kareem Hunt, and the upper echelon, but he isn't terrible. There were games where he and Morgan were able to pick up around 5 yds a carry. I agree with just about everything you're saying here, except that you seem to be comparing Ball to Kareen Hunt as both being upper echelon MAC backs? Unless he ever plays or does something, it's all potential. Nobody in the MAC surely even cares about Ball this point. They haven't seen him, and they haven't played against him either. Quote
zipsoutsider Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 44 minutes ago, skip-zip said: I agree with just about everything you're saying here, except that you seem to be comparing Ball to Kareen Hunt as both being upper echelon MAC backs? Unless he ever plays or does something, it's all potential. Nobody in the MAC surely even cares about Ball this point. They haven't seen him, and they haven't played against him either. That's fair. Quote
Zipgrad01 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 15 hours ago, zipsoutsider said: I am not sure why there is so much criticism for Edwards. I thought he performed fairly well for an offense that revolves around the pass. He isn't Ball, I will concede that, but he is at worst, an average MAC RB. He might not rank with Ball, Kareem Hunt, and the upper echelon, but he isn't terrible. There were games where he and Morgan were able to pick up around 5 yds a carry. Van Edwards is a bottom of the rung MAC running back. He wouldn't start for several NE Ohio high school teams. Quote
zipsoutsider Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Zipgrad01 said: Van Edwards is a bottom of the rung MAC running back. He wouldn't start for several NE Ohio high school teams. Wow... seems like a major overstatement. Quote
LZIp Posted January 15, 2017 Author Report Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, zipsoutsider said: I am not sure why there is so much criticism for Edwards. I thought he performed fairly well for an offense that revolves around the pass. He isn't Ball, I will concede that, but he is at worst, an average MAC RB. He might not rank with Ball, Kareem Hunt, and the upper echelon, but he isn't terrible. There were games where he and Morgan were able to pick up around 5 yds a carry. Van has decent speed, but not elite i don't think. It seems like he ran right into the back of a lineman for no or little gain on the majority of his carries though. Doesn't create anything, poor vision, and doesn't break tackles. His success comes when he has a hole. Maybe a formidable 3rd down back. I actually can't recall how his receiving skills are. Doesn't seem like we pass to the back out of the backfield much anyways. I just do not see him as a lead back at all. Don't mean to be critical, but others I watch the Zips with seem to notice as well. Edited January 15, 2017 by LZIp Quote
zipsoutsider Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, LZIp said: Van has decent speed, but not elite i don't think. It seems like he ran right into the back of a lineman for no or little gain on the majority of his carries though. Doesn't create anything, poor vision, and doesn't break tackles. His success comes when he has a hole. Maybe a formidable 3rd down back. I actually can't recall how his receiving skills are. Doesn't seem like we pass to the back out of the backfield much anyways. I just do not see him as a lead back at all. Don't mean to be critical, but others I watch the Zips with seem to notice as well. Now that you say that, I remember some of those instance. Saying he wouldn't start for high schools is a bit over the top, IMHO, though. I actually thought Manny Morgan had better field vision. Quote
Zipgrad01 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 46 minutes ago, zipsoutsider said: Now that you say that, I remember some of those instance. Saying he wouldn't start for high schools is a bit over the top, IMHO, though. I actually thought Manny Morgan had better field vision. Would he have started for Akron East this year? Quote
K92 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, Zipgrad01 said: Would he have started for Akron East this year? Wouldn't have started at Hoban or Copley, either. Quote
LZIp Posted January 15, 2017 Author Report Posted January 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, Zipgrad01 said: Would he have started for Akron East this year? That must mean you like Suggs. Win in my book. Quote
Zipgrad01 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, LZIp said: That must mean you like Suggs. Win in my book. I will answer your question after he responds Quote
Zipgrad01 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, K92 said: Wouldn't have started at Hoban or Copley, either. He 100% would not have started for either Copley or Hoban Edited January 15, 2017 by Zipgrad01 Quote
zipsoutsider Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) I am not going to enter such a ridiculous debate. It's apples to oranges. Edited January 15, 2017 by zipsoutsider Quote
Zipgrad01 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 17 minutes ago, zipsoutsider said: I am not going to enter such a ridiculous debate. It's apples to oranges. What is ridiculous is the university of akrons starting running back is maybe the 5th best high school running back in Akron. THAT is ridiculous Quote
LZIp Posted January 15, 2017 Author Report Posted January 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, Zipgrad01 said: What is ridiculous is the university of akrons starting running back is maybe the 5th best high school running back in Akron. THAT is ridiculous Technically was the back up behind Ball but I'm not sure I agree its that ridiculous even though I would like better. There are some talented players in Akron and it is not uncommon at all for freshman to come in and dominate (meaning they too were obviously better than X universities previous starter). Quote
Balsy Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 Just to play the devil's advocate...there's also really good RBs who sit second...even third behind other really good RBs, and just don't get a chance to play much. Quote
zipsoutsider Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Balsy said: Just to play the devil's advocate...there's also really good RBs who sit second...even third behind other really good RBs, and just don't get a chance to play much. And other good running backs who red shirt so they can get strong enough to get stripped. Quote
Zipgrad01 Posted January 16, 2017 Report Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, zipsoutsider said: And other good running backs who red shirt so they can get strong enough to get stripped. Gotta love those running backs that get stripped. Quote
LZIp Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Posted January 19, 2017 Miami RB looking to grad transfer http://caneswatch.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2017/01/18/gus-edwards-to-transfer-from-miami-hurricanes/ Iowa RB looking to grad transfer https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-rb-derrick-mitchell-jr-leave-hawkeyes-graduate-transfer?utm_campaign=SF_Landof10_Iowa&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social Quote
infofan Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 Just wondering....Did Warren Ball officially request a medical redshirt for a 6th year or was that just a rumor late in the season? Quote
LZIp Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, infofan said: Just wondering....Did Warren Ball officially request a medical redshirt for a 6th year or was that just a rumor late in the season? Nobody knows for sure, at least publicly...I think someone on here thought it sounded likely it would be granted. It would be great to have an actual reporter covering the team. I wonder if a student would be interested in interning for Zn.O ?! Edited January 19, 2017 by LZIp Quote
Dr Z Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 2 hours ago, infofan said: Just wondering....Did Warren Ball officially request a medical redshirt for a 6th year or was that just a rumor late in the season? Yes, it is being worked on. Quote
skip-zip Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 8 hours ago, LZIp said: It would be great to have an actual reporter covering the team. Quote
zipsoutsider Posted January 24, 2017 Report Posted January 24, 2017 Brenon Thrift, ILB, TE 6' 3" 290 lbs Graduated Gateway HS, Monroeville, PA (2014) Temple, Lackawana JUCO, PSU He redhsirted his freshman year at Temple (2014) , played his sophomore year at Lackawana,(2015) and then 2016 at PSU (no action.) At PSU, he was a RS Junior with 2 years of eligibility left. Seems like he would have to sit out. Would he need an exception? You have 5 years to complete 4 years, correct? Penn State Football: DT Transfers Out Of Program As CB Transfers In Report: Penn State DL Brenon Thrift no longer with program His Twitter says he is part of PSU's class of 2019. We can probably do better, but he might add some depth. Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 24, 2017 Report Posted January 24, 2017 8 hours ago, zipsoutsider said: Brenon Thrift, ILB, TE 6' 3" 290 lbs Graduated Gateway HS, Monroeville, PA (2014) Temple, Lackawana JUCO, PSU I don't know which is more bizarre...the fact that he's a 6' 3" 290 lb ILB, or that he's a 6' 3" 290 LB tight end? 1 Quote
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