Way too early Two Deep Depth Chart

[Zipmeister]

On 6/25/2023 at 4:23 PM, Zipmeister said:

 

Holy crap. Somebody tell whoever put this piece together to sit down and relax cause whoever did this must be exhausted from the obviously Herculean effort they invested in it.

 

The updated version of Our Lads is much improved. How do they come up with their depth charts? From the school's coaching staff or somewhere else?

I note that Our Lads has Murphy as a third string DL. I think, based on Murphy's recent Twitter photo, that he may be underrated. That is one imposing, scary-looking dude.

[catdaddyp]

Here is a depth chart from a source that claims to have spoken to every school’s coaching staff. Not going to say the source’s name because it’s behind a paywall. This source was almost 100% accurate on the depth chart to start the season last year. In any case, take it for what it’s worth as we all know some of this will change. Plus a few additions to the roster were made since this came out. Good offseason chatter though.

 

 

QB:

Irons

Undercuffler

 

RB:

Lingard (TP)

D. Anderson (TP)

 

WR:

Adams

Walker (surprised this wasn’t Golden)

 

WR:

George 

C. Anderson

 

WR:

Gathings

P. Wilson (TP)

TE:

Banks

Newell (TP)

 

LT:

Chambers (Landers was listed here, but since he’s no longer on the roster…)

Frank (TP)

 

LG:

Kilbane

Stopiak

 

C

T. Williams

T. Georges

 

RG:

K. Davis

Robarge

 

RT:

N. Williams

AJ George (TP)

 

 

DE:

A. Smith (JUCO)

L. Jackson (JUCO)

 

DT:

K. Thomas

K. Murphy

DT:

T. Jones (TP)

D. Robinson

 

DE:

R. Johnson 

CJ Nunnally (JUCO)

 

WLB:

McCoy

Behm

 

MLB:

Fish (was Bubba…)

Griffin

 

CB:

Hunter (TP)

Durant

 

CB:

Tallandier (TP)

Golden-Nelson

 

NB:

D. Lewis

T. Thomas (TP)

 

SS:

N. Thompson

Woods

 

FS:

KJ Martin

C. Thomas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 9, 2023 by catdaddyp

[Blue & Gold]

At the RT spot I'm surprised to see AJ George and not Keon Kindred.

I'm a bit surprised to not see Kabbash Richards in the 2-deep at either DE spot.

 

[Zipmeister]

1 hour ago, Blue & Gold said:

At the RT spot I'm surprised to see AJ George and not Keon Kindred.

I'm a bit surprised to not see Kabbash Richards in the 2-deep at either DE spot.

 

 

Serious question: why are you surprised?

[Let'sGoZips94]

12 hours ago, catdaddyp said:

Here is a depth chart from a source that claims to have spoken to every school’s coaching staff. Not going to say the source’s name because it’s behind a paywall. This source was almost 100% accurate on the depth chart to start the season last year. In any case, take it for what it’s worth as we all know some of this will change. Plus a few additions to the roster were made since this came out. Good offseason chatter though.

 

Is this his Can't State depth chart?

 

QB:

Crap

Extra Crap

 

RB:

Turd

Double Turds

 

WR:

Dog Crap

Dog Crap in a Bag on Fire

 

Etc. Etc. Etc.

 

If it's not, I'm taking his Akron depth chart with a grain of salt.

[catdaddyp]

2 hours ago, Blue & Gold said:

At the RT spot I'm surprised to see AJ George and not Keon Kindred.

I'm a bit surprised to not see Kabbash Richards in the 2-deep at either DE spot.

 

Agreed. Kindred and Kabbash are completely missing. Not only from the 2 deep, but also the 3 deep.

 

Although I think George can play tackle, he’s probably a better fit at guard. George should probably be listed as the backup RG with Robarge moved to backup LG. Kindred should be listed as backup RT. I can’t count the number of times Whigan was asked to pull from the RG spot last year and that isn’t Robarge’s strength. He’s much better equipped at plowing away at DL directly in front of him. Blanchard is also missing and he will be pushing for a spot as well.

 

The DE situation could be so many different combinations and I have to believe Kabbash will be squarely in the mix. 
 

A lot of what this outlet said I disagree with such as “Moorhead stepped into a decent situation” referring to all the freshmen Arth played. I can’t see how anyone who has been paying attention would come to that conclusion when less than 30 players remain from Arth’s classes. The one thing this outlet was pretty accurate on was the initial depth chart from last year. 

Here are the MAC Position Rankings for Zips:

QB - 3

RB - 9

WR/TE - 1

OL - 10

DL - 11

LB - 7

DB - 4

ST - 11

Coaching - 10

 

Some of the above missed the mark so badly I don’t even know what to say. It’s mind blowing that Moorhead had one bad year in the W/L column and he is bumped so far down in nearly every national ranking system. The majority of pundits missed how this team improved throughout the year and that Moorhead inherited one of the worst rosters in all of FBS. It’s also easy to tell which outlets have been paying attention to recruiting and the transfer portal. Watch how the narrative is completely flipped after this year and headed into 2024.

 

 

Edited July 9, 2023 by catdaddyp

[Blue & Gold]

1 hour ago, Zipmeister said:

 

Serious question: why are you surprised?

Keon transferred in from Maryland & I thought he’d play straightaway, kinda like our OL transfer from Penn State did last year (I’m forgetting his name… Whigan?).  Then with Kabbash Richards there was a lot of hype on the board about his verbal & he had a lot of interest from other schools. With how weak our DE pass rushing was last year I thought he’d also get on the field pretty quickly & (hopefully) remedy that.

Edited July 9, 2023 by Blue & Gold
Typo

[catdaddyp]

14 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Is this his Can't State depth chart?

 

QB:

Crap

Extra Crap

 

RB:

Turd

Double Turds

 

WR:

Dog Crap

Dog Crap in a Bag on Fire

 

Etc. Etc. Etc.

 

If it's not, I'm taking his Akron depth chart with a grain of salt.

That’s basically the case on both sides of the line of scrimmage and at WR. Despite their secondary not having much depth, they could be solid if they get a consistent pass rush…which I don’t think they will (switching to a 4 man front). 
 

The new staff seems to be doing a solid job with the 2024 class, so they may become competitive again quicker than I originally thought. It just won’t be this year.

[Let'sGoZips94]

On 7/9/2023 at 10:31 AM, catdaddyp said:

Agreed. Kindred and Kabbash are completely missing. Not only from the 2 deep, but also the 3 deep.

 

Although I think George can play tackle, he’s probably a better fit at guard. George should probably be listed as the backup RG with Robarge moved to backup LG. Kindred should be listed as backup RT. I can’t count the number of times Whigan was asked to pull from the RG spot last year and that isn’t Robarge’s strength. He’s much better equipped at plowing away at DL directly in front of him. Blanchard is also missing and he will be pushing for a spot as well.

 

The DE situation could be so many different combinations and I have to believe Kabbash will be squarely in the mix. 
 

A lot of what this outlet said I disagree with such as “Moorhead stepped into a decent situation” referring to all the freshmen Arth played. I can’t see how anyone who has been paying attention would come to that conclusion when less than 30 players remain from Arth’s classes. The one thing this outlet was pretty accurate on was the initial depth chart from last year. 

Here are the MAC Position Rankings for Zips:

QB - 3

RB - 9

WR/TE - 1

OL - 10

DL - 11

LB - 7

DB - 4

ST - 11

Coaching - 10

 

Some of the above missed the mark so badly I don’t even know what to say. It’s mind blowing that Moorhead had one bad year in the W/L column and he is bumped so far down in nearly every national ranking system. The majority of pundits missed how this team improved throughout the year and that Moorhead inherited one of the worst rosters in all of FBS. It’s also easy to tell which outlets have been paying attention to recruiting and the transfer portal. Watch how the narrative is completely flipped after this year and headed into 2024.

 

 

 

Legitimately all credibility is lost with this ranking of Moorhead & Staff. 

[catdaddyp]

Alright, since we’re not getting an official depth chart here’s my final guess:

 

OFFENSE
 

QB:

Irons

Bullock

 

RB:

Lingard

D. Anderson

 

WR:

Adams

Golden

 

WR:

George 

P. Wilson

 

WR:

Gathings

C. Anderson

 

TE:

Banks

Newell

 

LT:

Chambers

Frank

 

LG:

Kilbane

Robarge

 

C

T. Williams

Georges

 

RG:

K Davis

Blanchard

 

RT:

N Williams

Kindred

 

 

DEFENSE

DE:

R Johnson

L. Jackson

 

DT:

Lavea

Robinson

 

DT:

T. Jones

K. Thomas

 

DE:

Nunnally

A. Smith

 

LB:

Fish

Behm 

 

LB:

McCoy

Cooper

 

Nickel:

Lewis

T. Thomas

 

CB:

Tallandier

Durant

 

SS:

Thompson

Woods

 

FS:

Martin

C. Thomas

 

CB:

Hunter

Golden-Nelson

 

 

SPECIAL TEAMS

 

K:

Perez

Wiley

 

P:

D. Jackson

Castle

 

KR:

Hester

Golden

 

PR:

Hester

Golden