Chevin Pace

[ziplock]

From May 15, 2008 Akron Police Website:Chevin T. PACE, 22, 10820 W. Golf Dr., Miami, Florida was charged with Carrying a Concealed Weapon Gun, Drug Abuse Marijuana and Drug Paraphernalia. Chevin was stopped at 37 N. Main St. for an equipment violation. Chevin was driving with no operators license and while being placed under arrest, Chevin stated that he had a gun in the vehicle. Chevin was also found to be in possession of drugs.I am saddened by things like this report from the APD. Does anyone know if he had finished school or was registered at present?

[timmyboy]

From May 15, 2008 Akron Police Website:Chevin T. PACE, 22, 10820 W. Golf Dr., Miami, Florida was charged with Carrying a Concealed Weapon Gun, Drug Abuse Marijuana and Drug Paraphernalia. Chevin was stopped at 37 N. Main St. for an equipment violation. Chevin was driving with no operators license and while being placed under arrest, Chevin stated that he had a gun in the vehicle. Chevin was also found to be in possession of drugs.I am saddened by things like this report from the APD. Does anyone know if he had finished school or was registered at present?

the board has know about this since saturday when i posted about it. its unfortunate that these peope make such bad choices. chevin is honestly a nice guy whom i have met on several occations.

[zippyrifle32]

he graduated the same ceremony as me, may 11th

[ziplock]

From May 15, 2008 Akron Police Website:Chevin T. PACE, 22, 10820 W. Golf Dr., Miami, Florida was charged with Carrying a Concealed Weapon Gun, Drug Abuse Marijuana and Drug Paraphernalia. Chevin was stopped at 37 N. Main St. for an equipment violation. Chevin was driving with no operators license and while being placed under arrest, Chevin stated that he had a gun in the vehicle. Chevin was also found to be in possession of drugs.I am saddened by things like this report from the APD. Does anyone know if he had finished school or was registered at present?

the board has know about this since saturday when i posted about it. its unfortunate that these peope make such bad choices. chevin is honestly a nice guy whom i have met on several occations.

Sorry, I had not seen your previous post.

[RMP29]

I AM CHEVIN PACE GIRLFRIEND. THIS STATEMENT THAT HAS BEEN POSTED IS NOT ACCURATE WHAT SO EVER. HE WAS PULLED OVER BECAUSE THE TINT ON HIS CAR IS TO DARK. AKRON POLICE TOOK THE SITUATION AND BLOWIN IT OUT OF THE WATER SO HAS THIS ARTICLE THAT IS POSTED. HE WAS A DEDICATED STRONG SAFTEY FOR FIVE YEARS TO AN UNIVERSITY THAT TRYED TO BE LITTLE HIM. HE GRADUATED MAY 2008 WITH A BACHELORS IN BUSINESS.HE WAS NOT CHARGED FOR A CCW OR DRUG ABUSE.

[Dr Z]

Maybe Rasor can help us out here.

[Captain Kangaroo]

I AM CHEVIN PACE GIRLFRIEND. THIS STATEMENT THAT HAS BEEN POSTED IS NOT ACCURATE WHAT SO EVER. HE WAS PULLED OVER BECAUSE THE TINT ON HIS CAR IS TO DARK. AKRON POLICE TOOK THE SITUATION AND BLOWIN IT OUT OF THE WATER SO HAS THIS ARTICLE THAT IS POSTED. HE WAS A DEDICATED STRONG SAFTEY FOR FIVE YEARS TO AN UNIVERSITY THAT TRYED TO BE LITTLE HIM. HE GRADUATED MAY 2008 WITH A BACHELORS IN BUSINESS.HE WAS NOT CHARGED FOR A CCW OR DRUG ABUSE.

Chevin T. PACE, 22, 10820 W. Golf Dr., Miami, Florida was charged with Carrying a Concealed Weapon Gun, Drug Abuse Marijuana and Drug Paraphernalia. Chevin was stopped at 37 N. Main St. for an equipment violation. Chevin was driving with no operators license and while being placed under arrest, Chevin stated that he had a gun in the vehicle. Chevin was also found to be in possession of drugs.

How is the above-listed offense to be confused with over-darkened window tint? Did the police just fabricate the entire scenario? If so, Chev should sue and become a millionaire.

[GP1]

I AM CHEVIN PACE GIRLFRIEND. THIS STATEMENT THAT HAS BEEN POSTED IS NOT ACCURATE WHAT SO EVER. HE WAS PULLED OVER BECAUSE THE TINT ON HIS CAR IS TO DARK. AKRON POLICE TOOK THE SITUATION AND BLOWIN IT OUT OF THE WATER SO HAS THIS ARTICLE THAT IS POSTED. HE WAS A DEDICATED STRONG SAFTEY FOR FIVE YEARS TO AN UNIVERSITY THAT TRYED TO BE LITTLE HIM. HE GRADUATED MAY 2008 WITH A BACHELORS IN BUSINESS.HE WAS NOT CHARGED FOR A CCW OR DRUG ABUSE.

Chevin T. PACE, 22, 10820 W. Golf Dr., Miami, Florida was charged with Carrying a Concealed Weapon Gun, Drug Abuse Marijuana and Drug Paraphernalia. Chevin was stopped at 37 N. Main St. for an equipment violation. Chevin was driving with no operators license and while being placed under arrest, Chevin stated that he had a gun in the vehicle. Chevin was also found to be in possession of drugs.

How is the above-listed offense to be confused with over-darkened window tint?

Maybe the over-darkened windows are the equipment violation. When I think equipment violation I think more in line with a tail light or something being out.

[Buckzip]

I AM CHEVIN PACE GIRLFRIEND. THIS STATEMENT THAT HAS BEEN POSTED IS NOT ACCURATE WHAT SO EVER. HE WAS PULLED OVER BECAUSE THE TINT ON HIS CAR IS TO DARK. AKRON POLICE TOOK THE SITUATION AND BLOWIN IT OUT OF THE WATER SO HAS THIS ARTICLE THAT IS POSTED. HE WAS A DEDICATED STRONG SAFTEY FOR FIVE YEARS TO AN UNIVERSITY THAT TRYED TO BE LITTLE HIM. HE GRADUATED MAY 2008 WITH A BACHELORS IN BUSINESS.HE WAS NOT CHARGED FOR A CCW OR DRUG ABUSE.

He started for a couple years and received a free education, but UA tried to "BE LITTLE" him.... :blink:

[Dr Z]

Unfortunately, I found it here:Akron Police website

[Zipsrifle]

The Police can pull someone over for something like this and use it to get their foot in the door. Whether that was the initial intent of the law or not, it's the law. If the accusations are true, the bottom line is that he had drugs and a gun in the car. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this is a bad idea. WARNING----RANT!Unfortunately, IMO, these laws are also passed with an additional, unwritten intent to leverage stereotyping and also to just plain raise money. If these laws were enforced uniformly, or for their actual intent, I wouldn't have a problem, but I'm a little PO'd at something that happened to me a few months back. I got pulled over and ticketed in Attica on the west side of the state. My major violation....my front license plate was in the front window, not on my bumper. Did it matter that I was in transition between Michigan (who requires no front license plate) and Ohio? No. But I'm sure the rear plate reading "Go Akron" was a dead giveaway that I wouldn't drive 6 hours round trip to contest the ticket! You would have thought I was a terrorist or something. The guy had 1000 questions for me and was convinced there was no way I could have actually purchased the car with my own money (I look way younger than I actually am). Did I break the law, yes. Did I pay the fine? Yep! Would have cost $40-$50 in gas just to get there and back, so no use in fighting it. Later that day, I did a little survey and counted 11 cars from Ohio in 15 minutes of driving on the freeway with no plate on the front. End of rant.

[ziplock]

The Summit County Criminal Justice website does confirm that Mr. Pace did, in a negotiated plea agreement, plead guilty to the improper handling of a firearm in a motor vehicle and driving under suspension. He did receive a sentence of incarceration according to the agreement, but that was suspended by the Court so long as he complies with the conditions of his probation.Sorry to disagree with Mr. Pace's friend but he WAS charged initially with drug-related charges.The charges related to drugs were, in fact, dismissed by the prosecution. Just as stated by Dr. Z, I found the same info originally on the APD website. I do not think that anyone here pronounced judgment on Mr. Pace. Most were probably, like me, disappointed (and shell-shocked because of the timing of the situation in relation to another Zip athlete) to see something like that but most here a fair-minded. But I also stand by what was available to everyone on a public website. His exoneration on the drug-related charges also appears for all to see on a public website.In fact, since the initial arrest, I do not think that anyone here was "piling on" and simply awaited the final disposition of the case, as how now transpired.It is my sincere hope that Mr. Pace goes on with his life unscathed, is a productive member of society and is successful in his chosen endeavors.Go Zips!!

[Lee Adams]

anyone remember what happened a couple of weeks ago in TWINSBURG!!!!????...show of hands, how many of you now carry a hangun in your vehicles?...now how many have a concealed carry permit...do you know what the law says you have to do IF you have the permit?...i am a parole officer...i have friends who are/were police officers...to a person they say one of there biggest fears is confronting someone who may be armed...the cops walk right into it without knowing and you get a situation like you had with Joshua Miktarian...why was pace carrying a gun in the first place?... and if drugs were involved in the arrest even if the idiot prosecutor agreed to a plea bargain the evidence becomes even more damning...the mere fact that the gun was 'available' to this guy heightened the risk that the situation escalates to an unintended level...what a great country...we can carry guns in our cars just for the hell of it if we want to..

[ZipAlumn]

:.....what a great country...we can carry guns in our cars just for the hell of it if we want to..

Yes it is ..... Does anyone remember what happened to the Buchtel High Science (or Math) teacher on his way to school a couple of months ago??? A concealed carry and a gun in his car may or may not have saved his life.

[Buckzip]

:.....what a great country...we can carry guns in our cars just for the hell of it if we want to..

Yes it is ..... Does anyone remember what happened to the Buchtel High Science (or Math) teacher on his way to school a couple of months ago??? A concealed carry and a gun in his car may or may not have saved his life.

Thankfully our founding fathers thought it was and it still is.Libs don't quite get it.

[ziplock]

I consider myself "liberal" (yeah those people that proposed and supported those "socialist" philosophies like Social Security, the GI Bill, etc). However, not all people, "defined" as such disagree with the concept of concealed carry permits.Carrying a gun in one's car is NOT the same as carrying a gun with a concealed carry permit, which I personally support. It assumes that a permit is sought, background checks are employed and there is training as to the use and care of the weapon that must be demonstated. The law prohibits the carrying of weapons into some environments (such as schools and drinking establishments).Unfortunately, many, many people have weapons and do not understand their potential impact. Statistically, guns in homes that ARE used are used against "loved" ones 90% of the time and not against intruders or home invaders. That is the sad reality. They are too accessible and too many hotheads have them and too many children have quick and easy access to them. That is not a "liberal" view, just reality. Go Zips!!

[GP1]

i am a parole officer...i have friends who are/were police officers...to a person they say one of there biggest fears is confronting someone who may be armed

Those of us in the Libertarian Party will never give up our rights because people are scared. The people of this country have given up too many rights in recent decades.

[GP1]

:.....what a great country...we can carry guns in our cars just for the hell of it if we want to..

Yes it is ..... Does anyone remember what happened to the Buchtel High Science (or Math) teacher on his way to school a couple of months ago??? A concealed carry and a gun in his car may or may not have saved his life.

Thankfully our founding fathers thought it was and it still is.Libs don't quite get it.

Will you be voting for the liberal John McCain this election or the even bigger liberal Obama? There is almost no difference between the two guys. We are just going to exchange one liberal, Bush, for another liberal. We wouldn't be exchanging liberal for liberal if the Barr/Root ticket gets elected. Our liberty would be preserved instead of being put in jeopardy.

[Lee Adams]

I consider myself "liberal" (yeah those people that proposed and supported those "socialist" philosophies like Social Security, the GI Bill, etc). However, not all people, "defined" as such disagree with the concept of concealed carry permits.Carrying a gun in one's car is NOT the same as carrying a gun with a concealed carry permit, which I personally support. It assumes that a permit is sought, background checks are employed and there is training as to the use and care of the weapon that must be demonstated. The law prohibits the carrying of weapons into some environments (such as schools and drinking establishments).Unfortunately, many, many people have weapons and do not understand their potential impact. Statistically, guns in homes that ARE used are used against "loved" ones 90% of the time and not against intruders or home invaders. That is the sad reality. They are too accessible and too many hotheads have them and too many children have quick and easy access to them. That is not a "liberal" view, just reality. Go Zips!!

:blink: a concealed carry allows you to carry in your car..the moron who shot the officer had previously violated the concealed carry law and should have had the permit revoked...he went out and bought the gun he used to execute(3 to the head) the police officer AFTER he violated the concealed carry law...by the way the concealed carry REQUIRES that you announce the fact that you have the gun if a cop stops you..got no problem if you want to keep a gun at home...LEARN HOW TO USE IT>>>LEARN HOW TO STORE IT and hope when that guy breaks in in the middle of the night you have enough wits about you to get to it...and use it properly...you will be surprised how hard that is for you people who have litt;e or no formal training...thats most of you!

[Zipsrifle]

I consider myself "liberal" (yeah those people that proposed and supported those "socialist" philosophies like Social Security, the GI Bill, etc). However, not all people, "defined" as such disagree with the concept of concealed carry permits.Carrying a gun in one's car is NOT the same as carrying a gun with a concealed carry permit, which I personally support. It assumes that a permit is sought, background checks are employed and there is training as to the use and care of the weapon that must be demonstated. The law prohibits the carrying of weapons into some environments (such as schools and drinking establishments).Unfortunately, many, many people have weapons and do not understand their potential impact. Statistically, guns in homes that ARE used are used against "loved" ones 90% of the time and not against intruders or home invaders. That is the sad reality. They are too accessible and too many hotheads have them and too many children have quick and easy access to them. That is not a "liberal" view, just reality. Go Zips!!

:blink: a concealed carry allows you to carry in your car..the moron who shot the officer had previously violated the concealed carry law and should have had the permit revoked...he went out and bought the gun he used to execute(3 to the head) the police officer AFTER he violated the concealed carry law...by the way the concealed carry REQUIRES that you announce the fact that you have the gun if a cop stops you..got no problem if you want to keep a gun at home...LEARN HOW TO USE IT>>>LEARN HOW TO STORE IT and hope when that guy breaks in in the middle of the night you have enough wits about you to get to it...and use it properly...you will be surprised how hard that is for you people who have litt;e or no formal training...thats most of you!

Please, don't throw around phrases like "Statistically, guns in homes that ARE used are used against "loved" ones 90% of the time and not against intruders or home invaders." I know a LOT of people, even before I started target shooting, who had guns in the home, and you know what? They used them, and they weren't against people! That is simply ridiculous! The key point here is EDUCATION! Just like driving a car, people should be properly educated as to how to use, store, and care for a firearm. RESPONSIBILITY PEOPLE!!!! The idiots who keep the guns around the house in such a manner that their kids can get to them makes me crazy! I'm not going to go into a prolonged rant, but the bottom line is that the solution is NOT to take something away from the MANY people who use it responsibly, to protect against the FEW who use it irresponsibly. If this were a viable solution, then there should be A LOT of people banned from ever touching money again! Financial irresponsibility is hurting ALL OF US right now and I, as a responsible person, have been beaten up pretty badly as a result!

[Buckzip]

:.....what a great country...we can carry guns in our cars just for the hell of it if we want to..

Yes it is ..... Does anyone remember what happened to the Buchtel High Science (or Math) teacher on his way to school a couple of months ago??? A concealed carry and a gun in his car may or may not have saved his life.

Thankfully our founding fathers thought it was and it still is.Libs don't quite get it.

Will you be voting for the liberal John McCain this election or the even bigger liberal Obama? There is almost no difference between the two guys. We are just going to exchange one liberal, Bush, for another liberal. We wouldn't be exchanging liberal for liberal if the Barr/Root ticket gets elected. Our liberty would be preserved instead of being put in jeopardy.

McCain is a liberal, however, Obama is a socialist. This will be a hard one...

[Dr Z]

McCain is a liberal, however, Obama is a socialist. This will be a hard one...

Do what Romeo does when he selects his starting QB, flip a coin. Worked out for him. Loser went to the pro bowl.Loser of your coin toss could be the leader of the US.

[Lee Adams]

I consider myself "liberal" (yeah those people that proposed and supported those "socialist" philosophies like Social Security, the GI Bill, etc). However, not all people, "defined" as such disagree with the concept of concealed carry permits.Carrying a gun in one's car is NOT the same as carrying a gun with a concealed carry permit, which I personally support. It assumes that a permit is sought, background checks are employed and there is training as to the use and care of the weapon that must be demonstated. The law prohibits the carrying of weapons into some environments (such as schools and drinking establishments).Unfortunately, many, many people have weapons and do not understand their potential impact. Statistically, guns in homes that ARE used are used against "loved" ones 90% of the time and not against intruders or home invaders. That is the sad reality. They are too accessible and too many hotheads have them and too many children have quick and easy access to them. That is not a "liberal" view, just reality. Go Zips!!

:blink: a concealed carry allows you to carry in your car..the moron who shot the officer had previously violated the concealed carry law and should have had the permit revoked...he went out and bought the gun he used to execute(3 to the head) the police officer AFTER he violated the concealed carry law...by the way the concealed carry REQUIRES that you announce the fact that you have the gun if a cop stops you..got no problem if you want to keep a gun at home...LEARN HOW TO USE IT>>>LEARN HOW TO STORE IT and hope when that guy breaks in in the middle of the night you have enough wits about you to get to it...and use it properly...you will be surprised how hard that is for you people who have litt;e or no formal training...thats most of you!

Please, don't throw around phrases like "Statistically, guns in homes that ARE used are used against "loved" ones 90% of the time and not against intruders or home invaders." I know a LOT of people, even before I started target shooting, who had guns in the home, and you know what? They used them, and they weren't against people! That is simply ridiculous! The key point here is EDUCATION! Just like driving a car, people should be properly educated as to how to use, store, and care for a firearm. RESPONSIBILITY PEOPLE!!!! The idiots who keep the guns around the house in such a manner that their kids can get to them makes me crazy! I'm not going to go into a prolonged rant, but the bottom line is that the solution is NOT to take something away from the MANY people who use it responsibly, to protect against the FEW who use it irresponsibly. If this were a viable solution, then there should be A LOT of people banned from ever touching money again! Financial irresponsibility is hurting ALL OF US right now and I, as a responsible person, have been beaten up pretty badly as a result!

never mentioned 'statistics' did I? or are you trying to obfuscate?...LIKE I SAID IF YOU WANT ONE IN THE HOUSE GO FOR IT!!!...LEARN HOW TO USE IT PROPERLY SO WHEN YOU ARE STANDING THERE IN YOU UNDERWEAR AT 3AM THE GUY WHO BROKE IN DOESN'T CAP YOU OR GET AWAY...NOW WHAT ABOUT THE GUN IN THE CAR?????!!!!...oh by the way...I have never seen anyone killed with a dollar bill...have you? usually takes a LETHAL weapon...

[Zipsrifle]

I consider myself "liberal" (yeah those people that proposed and supported those "socialist" philosophies like Social Security, the GI Bill, etc). However, not all people, "defined" as such disagree with the concept of concealed carry permits.Carrying a gun in one's car is NOT the same as carrying a gun with a concealed carry permit, which I personally support. It assumes that a permit is sought, background checks are employed and there is training as to the use and care of the weapon that must be demonstated. The law prohibits the carrying of weapons into some environments (such as schools and drinking establishments).Unfortunately, many, many people have weapons and do not understand their potential impact. Statistically, guns in homes that ARE used are used against "loved" ones 90% of the time and not against intruders or home invaders. That is the sad reality. They are too accessible and too many hotheads have them and too many children have quick and easy access to them. That is not a "liberal" view, just reality. Go Zips!!

:blink: a concealed carry allows you to carry in your car..the moron who shot the officer had previously violated the concealed carry law and should have had the permit revoked...he went out and bought the gun he used to execute(3 to the head) the police officer AFTER he violated the concealed carry law...by the way the concealed carry REQUIRES that you announce the fact that you have the gun if a cop stops you..got no problem if you want to keep a gun at home...LEARN HOW TO USE IT>>>LEARN HOW TO STORE IT and hope when that guy breaks in in the middle of the night you have enough wits about you to get to it...and use it properly...you will be surprised how hard that is for you people who have litt;e or no formal training...thats most of you!

Please, don't throw around phrases like "Statistically, guns in homes that ARE used are used against "loved" ones 90% of the time and not against intruders or home invaders." I know a LOT of people, even before I started target shooting, who had guns in the home, and you know what? They used them, and they weren't against people! That is simply ridiculous! The key point here is EDUCATION! Just like driving a car, people should be properly educated as to how to use, store, and care for a firearm. RESPONSIBILITY PEOPLE!!!! The idiots who keep the guns around the house in such a manner that their kids can get to them makes me crazy! I'm not going to go into a prolonged rant, but the bottom line is that the solution is NOT to take something away from the MANY people who use it responsibly, to protect against the FEW who use it irresponsibly. If this were a viable solution, then there should be A LOT of people banned from ever touching money again! Financial irresponsibility is hurting ALL OF US right now and I, as a responsible person, have been beaten up pretty badly as a result!

never mentioned 'statistics' did I? or are you trying to obfuscate?...LIKE I SAID IF YOU WANT ONE IN THE HOUSE GO FOR IT!!!...LEARN HOW TO USE IT PROPERLY SO WHEN YOU ARE STANDING THERE IN YOU UNDERWEAR AT 3AM THE GUY WHO BROKE IN DOESN'T CAP YOU OR GET AWAY...NOW WHAT ABOUT THE GUN IN THE CAR?????!!!!...oh by the way...I have never seen anyone killed with a dollar bill...have you? usually takes a LETHAL weapon...

Did you reread your post?....I think you did....Nice try Oh, and no, I've never seen a dollar bill kill anyone (maybe in a movie?) but I have seen plenty of cars, trucks, and planes kill people, so while we're at it, lets ban those too!

[jcv1]

:.....what a great country...we can carry guns in our cars just for the hell of it if we want to..

Yes it is ..... Does anyone remember what happened to the Buchtel High Science (or Math) teacher on his way to school a couple of months ago??? A concealed carry and a gun in his car may or may not have saved his life.

Thankfully our founding fathers thought it was and it still is.Libs don't quite get it.

Ummmm... the Founding Fathers WERE libs.... revolt against the status quo, establish individual freedoms, etc..... your right to insult and a closed mind is due to "libs"... now, back to the subject.....