Z.I.P. Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Sun Belt Conf makes deal to get three bowl commitsOnly question is, will the Sun Belt have bowl eligible teams. But the same could be said about the MAC, I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno aka Menace Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Ya know what I saw this yesterday, and that was my first thought right away......another opportunity missed. It seems like every other conference is doing things to improve itself but the MAC. The MAC thinks a new logo is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 The MAC is too busy screwing itself to get screwed by any other entity.Ryno, you shouldn't be too hard on the logo......it's a sign of our "building". The MAC has been building for years.........in a floodplain. Every few years, the building gets washed away and they go back to the floodplain to build again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Two of the three teams we sent to bowls last season got humiliated. We don't need more bowls until we get better as a conference. The MAC as a whole is a better football conference than 8 years ago. But the upper-level programs aren't nearly as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Until the MAC can actually provide more teams that are bowl-eligible, we have no reason to complain about anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexanMark Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 I see it as a geography decision...if one the leagues can't fill those bowls the local organizers would like to have a team whose fans could drive to the bowl games. The Sun Belt is only the backup not the primary league.The Sunbelt teams are much closer to these bowls than MAC teams. With several more bowls than 2004 a 7-5 MAC should find a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigham78 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 This arrangement is joke. The SBC champion struggles in the New Orleans Bowl Vs 3rd and 4th place C-USA teams. Someone missed on this one as 8-4 SBC are nothing more then gloried tune-ups for most BCS teams. Florida Atlantic won the SBC last year at 7-5. They lost 42-6 to 6-6 Oklahoma St. They did beat 1-11 Minnesota 42-39. But, lost to Kentucky 45-17, South Florida 35-23 and Florida 59-20. They also lost to La Monroe 33-30 who at 6-6 won have been one of those bowl eligible teams. Their lone non conference win was over Grambling. They lost 35-17 to Tulsa, 49-26 to Clemson and 54-14 to Texas A&M.Troy the 2nd place in the SBC did upset Oklahoma St 41-23. But, they lost to Arkansas 46-26, Florida 59-31, Georgia 44-34 and Florida Atlantic at home 38-32, which is why they lost the conference championship.The MAC owns the SBC head to head in recent years and this arrangement has more to do with the shrewdness of the SBC commissioner and his being a snake oil salesman. Because right now the SBC is not better then the MAC. The SBC is a conference full of gloried tune-ups for most real BCS teams. Wins over the likes of Rice and Memphis in the past tow bowl games and regular seasons wins over 1-11 Minnesota, 6-6 Oklahoma St and 7-5 Bama in 2006 doesn't show this conference is up and coming when you have teams like North Texas losing games 79-10 to Oklahoma, 66-7 to Arkansas and scoring 62 points in regulation Vs Navy. But, still losing the game 74-62, shows how truly weak this conference is. The North Texas scores are just a few of the ugly losses this conference takes every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipsrifle Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 You know what, I'm really not that worried about this. I have a feeling we will see some bowl games in the future with teams that have a LOSING record. Basically, if you have a winning record, you will go bowling....unless you are Akron, and then you will get screwed. In the end, if the MAC had an agreement or not, we would somehow get screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigham78 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 You know what, I'm really not that worried about this. I have a feeling we will see some bowl games in the future with teams that have a LOSING record. Basically, if you have a winning record, you will go bowling....unless you are Akron, and then you will get screwed. In the end, if the MAC had an agreement or not, we would somehow get screwed.I'm not worried about either as the SBC will get exposed as the delusional BCS buester conference they claim to be. They've managed to beat a mediocre 7-6 Alabama, 1-11 Minnesota and went 1-1 Vs 6-7 Oklahoma. Florida Atlanta beat Memphis in their bowl game. They lost all of the other BCS games they played and most of them very, very badly. The years prior just about everyone was losing ugly and this conference is not about to be breakout conference.Scoring late TD's in games Vs BCS teams who were long past resting their starters to take 59-7 game and make it 59-20 final is not an upcoming conference. I'm just tired of the comments of the MAC not being better then SBC when the MAC has been beating this conference head to head the past few years. UofA is 2-1 Vs the SBC in their last three games. They gave 2nd place Middle Tennessee St the Motor City bid in 2006. Central Michigan 31 MTSU 14. The clue should have been a month prior South Carolina beat MTSU 52-7.The SBC getting bowl bids gets more cash for the SBC. But, all it does for the bowl is assures more blowouts losses with low attendance and low viewed games.Four time SBC champion North Texas was 1-3 in bowl games and never sold their allotments. This conference is full of teams struggling to draw 15,000 to their home games. They surely don't travel well.Southern Miss bringing a truckload of fans to the 2004 New Orleans Bowl saved the bowl from the extinction list. The prior year then 3 time SBC Champion North Texas Vs Memphis just barely drew 18,000 est 15,000 was Memphis fans.I forget to mention Troy in 2004 in the now defunct Silcon Valley Bowl lost to another MAC team Northern Illinois 34-21.This conference doesn't fare well Vs the MAC and is glorified tune-up for most BCS teams and they deserve bowl bids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 We shouldn't really worry about backup bowl agreements made by any conferences. The bottom line is that we need to get 7 wins, and we will go bowling, either at a MAC bowl or somewhere else as an at-large. That's it. What the MAC or other conferences are doing doesn't matter, since there are enough bowls now that it's almost impossible to be left out with 7 or more wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipsrifle Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 We shouldn't really worry about backup bowl agreements made by any conferences. The bottom line is that we need to get 7 wins, and we will go bowling, either at a MAC bowl or somewhere else as an at-large. That's it. What the MAC or other conferences are doing doesn't matter, since there are enough bowls now that it's almost impossible to be left out with 7 or more wins......unless your AKRON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigham78 Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 We shouldn't really worry about backup bowl agreements made by any conferences. The bottom line is that we need to get 7 wins, and we will go bowling, either at a MAC bowl or somewhere else as an at-large. That's it. What the MAC or other conferences are doing doesn't matter, since there are enough bowls now that it's almost impossible to be left out with 7 or more wins......unless your AKRONOr Miami 2001 7-52002 7-5 2005 7-4NIU2002 8-42003 10-22005 7-5Toledo2000 10-12003 8-4Western Michigan2000 9-32005 7-4 Ohio 2000 7-42007 6-6Bowling Green2001 8-32002 9-3The MAC has been getting screwed out of bowls worst then delusional SBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 We shouldn't really worry about backup bowl agreements made by any conferences. The bottom line is that we need to get 7 wins, and we will go bowling, either at a MAC bowl or somewhere else as an at-large. That's it. What the MAC or other conferences are doing doesn't matter, since there are enough bowls now that it's almost impossible to be left out with 7 or more wins......unless your AKRONOr Miami 2001 7-52002 7-5 2005 7-4NIU2002 8-42003 10-22005 7-5Toledo2000 10-12003 8-4Western Michigan2000 9-32005 7-4 Ohio 2000 7-42007 6-6Bowling Green2001 8-32002 9-3The MAC has been getting screwed out of bowls worst then delusional SBC.Those are good examples, but now there's 88 bowls and only, on average, 120 bowl-eligible teams (exaggeration, but you get the point). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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