clarkwgriswold

Toledo off to a good start tonight in the 69th place tournament.

Me too (unless it is critical about Mr, Pinky! LOL).

That article is the gift that just keeps on giving. Some of my favorite parts: "I took the coach at Kent State's job, Rob Senderoff. Rob Senderoff was cheating his brains out for Kelvin Sampson at Indiana and Kelvin is pretty smart. He got rid of Senderoff, but took care of him" "He slips me a camp check and says 'give it to Senderoff, would ya?' So Senderoff gets fired in the middle of the 2008 season, and then because cheating pays, he ends of getting a job at Kent State becuse he has buddies there. He went back to Kent State and got a job because he's a scheming little guy.'' "Senderoff was a little cheat, and he wasn't even any good at it,'' Dakich said. "He got caught easy when he was at Indiana." "You've got to understand that when I came to Indiana after 16 years at Indiana with Bob Knight, this little weasel Senderoff tells me 'this is as new Indiana. There's a new sheriff in town,’ “Dakich said. ''I said, ah, man, you guys are great. You're all awesome.' About a month later, I find out that Senderoff and McCallumn and Sampson are all cheating like crazy.'' Dakich said that Senderoff ''has done a good job and Kent State, and has a good team,'' but he also interjected that he ''probably still gets his players the same way Kelvin Sampson does, by cheating.'' "You can't lose to little Robbie Senderoff. He had no idea how to coach nothing. He was coaching the bigs, and that's what I did after he was fired. We had D.J. White. I said 'D.J., you need to get a jump hook.' Senderoff never did that. He's a whiner, he's a baby.''

He did start 11 games. One pretty big thing happened though between then and now. Agree to disagree. I certainly would not be protesting outside of the JAR if he ever decided to return.

I don't think it's about hurt feelings, its about how you see his commitment to a program that requires a full commitment from it's players to succeed.

I think you're good keeping it here. There's no time reference in the thread title and it is moving to the top now.

Mr. Pinky's commitment to high character players goes way back!

But if you win you have an argument that you should have been included in the slightly less s****y honorable mention tournament.

Thanks for doing this. I went a little crazy with some upsets and surprises.

I guess I got in as I was in last year. Try the link at the very top of the thread. Maybe that will work.

He'd be a Zip so I guess I would cheer for him from the stands as he played, but deep in my calloused heart I would not completely buy in. He had very few offers coming out of high school yet Groce recruited him, brought him in and helped make him into a valuable player on a tournament qualifying team. He cast that good treatment and effort aside. That's certainly his decision to make but it casts light on his sense of loyalty and I prefer kids who buy in 100%.

Here's hoping Guthrie acts quickly and gets somebody into the seat. Each day it sits empty is another missed opportunity to recruit and work to keep some of the current women here.

This bracket is open again for anyone interested- https://picks.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ncaa-tournament/bracket/pools/kbxw63b2ha2tambyguyq====/standings/

But...but...but...it's a national audience.

Coleman Crawford available? LOL. They could play the Dukes at SVSM. KD has pissed in the Zips' backyard before by bringing the Dukes there!

It would be great to get guys like Nate, Tavari and Lyles some time extra time on the floor to help prep them for next year. The problem is that if you get them extended time on the floor it likely results in a loss. At that point, you have to make the value assessment of whether an extra 30 minutes of playing time for those guys is worth $27.5K.

For completely different reasons, eff Shaka Smart. My blood boils just hearing that azzwipe's name. Not that I have any strong feelings about him. I'm just glad Detroit Mercy isn't in there to allow Davis to fraudulently steal the scoring record.

Rob Senderoff. Indiana. Chuckle. The committee has a sense of humor.

I love the end of a Zips basketball season in how it brings out people we never otherwise see on ZipsNation- people that come to p!$$, moan and b!+ch after a loss and those who come to celebrate and bask in success. The most amusing are those who are actually in both groups.

And nobody knows the kid better as a basketball player than John Groce.

Tribble's ability to bring the ball up and play the point also allowed X to move over to more of a shooting guard and run off of picks, etc. to get loose and get off shots.

Spoiler Alert- many women from this year's team are going to leave and next year will suck. We will then get "this would have never happened if Coach Jackson was still here" to which the logical of us will respond "No $h!+, this is hat happens with coaching changes."

Greg seems like a disciplined hard-nosed kid. Groce seems like he could be an appropriate taskmaster. As such, at this point I don't think it's a lack of effort. I just think his shooting technique has become so neurologically engrained that there's no fixing it at this late juncture. I suspect that as a kid he was so athletically advanced and with inadequate coaching was never "fixed" when he was raw enough to have it happen.

I'll tell you what, it's not easy to say!!

Tribble has the lowest turnover rate of any of the regular starters and was occasionally the point guard so I am not concerned with his dribbling. He has a high dribble but his dribbling is fine.