ZZZips Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 More rumors from WTAM: https://twitter.com/NickCaminoWTAM/status/393846533226913792 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 And immediately debunked. https://twitter.com/DustinFox37/status/393850033067421696 Dustin FoxVerified account @DustinFox37 Just spoke to Coach Tressel. No truth to story about him coaching next season. Very happy at Akron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 WTAM almost seems like a tabloid also, why would Tressel choose coaching at Miami (OH) over being the President at UA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 also, why would Tressel choose coaching at Miami (OH) over being the President at UA? Because he is qualified to do one of those jobs and not the other. If the choice is Tressel going to coach at Miami or becoming the President at UofA, I say enjoy the night life in Oxford coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Because he is qualified to do one of those jobs and not the other. If the choice is Tressel going to coach at Miami or becoming the President at UofA, I say enjoy the night life in Oxford coach. Some "high ups" at the University disagree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Some "high ups" at the University disagree with you. Whatever the ups are high on its got to be good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zestycoyote Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 WTAM almost seems like a tabloid also, why would Tressel choose coaching at Miami (OH) over being the President at UA? I nominate this as one of ZipsNation's dumbest posts in 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I originally dismissed the thought of Tressel becoming president as it seemed like a silly rumor. Now, with the repeated mentions, you guys are really starting to scare me. Is that really a consideration? If true, this will be the killer for the academic prestige that Proenza has worked so hard to establish for the last decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I nominate this as one of ZipsNation's dumbest posts in 2013. Of course you think that. Your opinion of Tressel becoming the next President is well documented on here. I originally dismissed the thought of Tressel becoming president as it seemed like a silly rumor. Now, with the repeated mentions, you guys are really starting to scare me. Is that really a consideration? If true, this will be the killer for the academic prestige that Proenza has worked so hard to establish for the last decade. I've heard first hand from a former Dean of one of the best colleges the campus has, and he believes that choosing the next President will have less to do with academic accolades (ex. Proenza research background) and more to do with a recognizable face of the University capable of raising money. He seemed to believe that a not having a doctorate wasn't an issue, either. I asked specifically about Tressel. He never gave a clear answer, but everything he brought up leads me to think Tressel. JMO. Also, no disrespect to Proenza, but what academic prestige does UA have as a whole? Many outsiders and even insiders still consider UA a community college. Now, we have some GREAT individual programs that most outsiders aren't aware of, but our overall image still leaves much to be desired. Tressel is a great leader and person (save the one screw up rebuttal, please). I feel he would be a great representative for our University. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I feel he would be a great representative for our University. I'm worried about the long-term damage that WILL do to our image. Of course the future is always filled with unknowns, but most people I talked too (whom are UAkron outsiders) saw the Tressel hire as a desperation move. Putting him as president would make him even more of a desperation move. I suppose if in the long run he can bring in money and establish a larger endowment fund, that might be worth it...but honestly ALL of UA's problems could and should be fixed on the academic side IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Some "high ups" at the University disagree with you. Are they the same "high ups" who have given us the building process that has resulted in a decline in enrollment, low graduation rate, an empty football stadium as a result of their AD hire who hired his friend to destroy the football program? If so, we should do the opposite of what they want and be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I'm worried about the long-term damage that WILL do to our image. Of course the future is always filled with unknowns, but most people I talked too (whom are UAkron outsiders) saw the Tressel hire as a desperation move. Putting him as president would make him even more of a desperation move. I suppose if in the long run he can bring in money and establish a larger endowment fund, that might be worth it...but honestly ALL of UA's problems could and should be fixed on the academic side IMO. Great post Balsy!! You are correct about outsiders. Friends of mine in South Carolina roll their eyes when they hear of him working for UofA. He is only respected in a state littered with punch drinkers. It was an absolute move of desperation. Nobody outside of Ohio takes the guy seriously and I worry about the amount of ball busting I'm going to have to take if he is hired as President. People in South Carolina aren't even stupid enough to think that hiring Tressel as University President is a good idea. I have no idea what has happened to Ohio/UofA since I move away, but I worry that a group of rum-dums in Myrtle Beach may be smarter than the Trustees at UofA. UofA's problems are not academic. It is a great academic institution. Far better than when I was in school and it was very good then. I'm a huge believer in the quality of education UofA provides. The problem is they have set the goal to allow more students in, in order to support the "building process". They will say otherwise, but it takes money to support the playgrounds they have built. This means more students at the bottom of the intellectual ladder. These students almost never make it into the higher intellectual majors, but they bring averages down. In greater numbers, they bring averages down even more. If the image of UofA is a community college, it is the image of those who aren't paying attention or like many in Ohio, want to hold on to the past forever. Tressel is the past so they will want to hold on to whatever greatness they think the University can pull out of a football coach who is suspended from coaching in the NCAA. It's shockingly stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 My source tells me that if asked, he would decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 ... I have no idea what has happened to Ohio/UofA since I move away ... I've seen folks accuse you of that here, but this is the first time I've seen you admit it. But seriously, for everyone who thinks that UA has grown and improved under the Dr. Proenza administration, don't you think the very people responsible for managing UA's growth want to select the person who they believe is most capable of continuing and expanding on that? If Jim Tressel doesn't meet those qualifications, he's not going to be offered the position regardless of what those who worship his football accomplishments may fervently believe. And if he does meet those qualifications, he has a good chance of being offered regardless of what those who've pigeonholed him as being capable of nothing more in life than coaching football may fervently believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxZIP Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Are they the same "high ups" who have given us the building process that has resulted in a decline in enrollment, low graduation rate, an empty football stadium as a result of their AD hire who hired his friend to destroy the football program? If so, we should do the opposite of what they want and be successful. I wouldn't be so quick to judge the "high ups" based on shrinking enrollment. The University is still much larger today than in the past with nearly 27,550 enrolled at the Akron Campus. It is also undeniable that the appearance and appeal of the university have been increased during Proenza’s tenure. The new landscape for learning laid the foundation for future growth. More dorms were added, classroom facilities upgraded, and service facilities brought up to modern standards. The leadership has put resources into new engineering facilities and programs to further reinforce a core academic and revenue generating program. I like Akron’s identity as an engineering powerhouse. Rather be known for engineering than a hippie shooting. Also, the University is trying to improve academics by rerouting underprepared students to community colleges. 300+ students per semester are being responsibly redirected contributing to the shrinkage problem but improving academic success scores. Faculty raises and union issues aside, the administration has done a nice job building infrastructure and improving academics. Universities will be competing for increasingly fewer students in the future. The University of Akron is well positioned to compete for more than scraps and commuters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I believe enrollment is shrinking all across Ohio, not just at UA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxZIP Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I believe enrollment is shrinking all across Ohio, not just at UA. Ohio Board of Regents Enrollment Data You are correct. Main campus headcount is down across the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I've already expressed enough of my disgust over this situation in the past, but let me just add this... If this guy ever becomes the "leader" on my alma mater, I'll probably save myself the embarrassment by telling far fewer people about where I went to college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Honestly, what do you guys think a University president actually does? I'm curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 First of all, Dr. Proenza took a glorified high school and turned it into a University. A place where highly qualified researchers work, and qualified students earn degrees and make a good future for themselves. Compare the campus today to that in year 2000. Compare the enrollment (yes even with the recent dip), compare the amount of attracted research dollars and the number of publications out of the university. I understand that the state is upset with him because he is unable to educate the lazy kids that THEY FORCE HIM TO ADMIT although they are not college material. Proenza built up the academic prestige of the university and if his crime is dreaming too big or aiming too high, then to Dr. Proenza. Second, what is it that makes people feel that Tressel as a president will bring a lot of donations? Really? Do you know an alum who does not want to donate now but if Tressel is president, they will? or is a non alum going to fall in love with the university and start donating when Tressel becomes the president? I just don't get it! Third, think about the academic side of things. Try tell a professor in Polymer Science who is top 10 researcher in the world in his field that his promotion and tenure documents will be evaluated by a non Ph. D. who doesn't know what scholarly research even is. But hey, he can coach a football team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 First of all, Dr. Proenza took a glorified high school and turned it into a University. A place where highly qualified researchers work, and qualified students earn degrees and make a good future for themselves. Compare the campus today to that in year 2000. Compare the enrollment (yes even with the recent dip), compare the amount of attracted research dollars and the number of publications out of the university. I understand that the state is upset with him because he is unable to educate the lazy kids that THEY FORCE HIM TO ADMIT although they are not college material. Proenza built up the academic prestige of the university and if his crime is dreaming too big or aiming too high, then to Dr. Proenza. Second, what is it that makes people feel that Tressel as a president will bring a lot of donations? Really? Do you know an alum who does not want to donate now but if Tressel is president, they will? or is a non alum going to fall in love with the university and start donating when Tressel becomes the president? I just don't get it! Third, think about the academic side of things. Try tell a professor in Polymer Science who is top 10 researcher in the world in his field that his promotion and tenure documents will be evaluated by a non Ph. D. who doesn't know what scholarly research even is. But hey, he can coach a football team! +1. Let's find the next Dr. Proenza! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 First of all, Dr. Proenza took a glorified high school and turned it into a University. A place where highly qualified researchers work, and qualified students earn degrees and make a good future for themselves. Compare the campus today to that in year 2000. Compare the enrollment (yes even with the recent dip), compare the amount of attracted research dollars and the number of publications out of the university. I understand that the state is upset with him because he is unable to educate the lazy kids that THEY FORCE HIM TO ADMIT although they are not college material. Proenza built up the academic prestige of the university and if his crime is dreaming too big or aiming too high, then to Dr. Proenza. Second, what is it that makes people feel that Tressel as a president will bring a lot of donations? Really? Do you know an alum who does not want to donate now but if Tressel is president, they will? or is a non alum going to fall in love with the university and start donating when Tressel becomes the president? I just don't get it! Third, think about the academic side of things. Try tell a professor in Polymer Science who is top 10 researcher in the world in his field that his promotion and tenure documents will be evaluated by a non Ph. D. who doesn't know what scholarly research even is. But hey, he can coach a football team! Regarding your first and third points. Nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Great FB coach, but not close to being qualified to be a University president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think he should be our next Athletics Director. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think he should be our next Athletics Director. He's qualified for that. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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