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I remember Hilk and Clartk billboards calling them salt and pepper.O'Connor is on the list. Eric Drakes should be there. Good call. I will add him.I have Phil Dunn in the same catagory as Dwayne LeFall.He came in looking like he would be a super stud, but he never got any better.Yes, he was a good player, just like LeFall. However, after their freshman years, you would have thought they would both be AA by the time they were finished.Maybe someone could do an all Lee Owens team.The only guys I can think of are Frye, Cherry, and D. Smith.

I listed Hilk, and I agree. Didn't Clark play 2 years though? I know what you are saying about him being a low life, but he was a helluva player.As for Moten, I thought he was a DB. Am I wrong again?If he was a LB would you put him ahead of Cockerham, Reese, Holmes and Hilk?Reliford was the transfer from Colorado I believe. He was behind Lewis for a couple of years. I feel Lewis is one the most underrated Zip I can think of. The kid was a stud, but noone really talks about him.

You are correct skip. We actually have a complete team. Now we need to add some guys that are better than what I originally listed.DL, OL and LB are questionable. I am surprised noone has mentioned Vernon Stewart at QB

That article says "outstanding coach Lee Owens" I stopped reading after that.

OK, I need to revise the topic to guys that graduated before 2000.Happy now?

Unless my memory is even worse than I thought, wasn't he after 2000?I know he is one of our best, if not best, DB's ever. However, I thought he was more recent.If I am wrong, he certainly should be there. See guys, Isn't this much more fun than being serious all of the time????? Captain, I am shocked that you haven't listed some I missed.Anyone else that remembers Nerim Gumbalia, or however the hell you spell it, has to remember some good football players too.

Maybe he is a closet Can't fan

I remember him. See my memory sucks until you jump start it.

I mentioned Buford in another thread too. He and Eric M were the best Zip backcourt IMHO

You gotta have faith... No not GM. I may need to puke now.Wham.....

For me it was the Marshall game where leftwich was carried down the field.Great game.The other was the Acme-Zip game in the 70's where Chris Angeloff died. I still remember the ambulance going across the field after they picked him up. The announcer said he was ok. I was a kid, but that memory still is there. Very sad time.

Wasn't Alcorn Mr. Irrelevant in the NFL draft? If not, then it was Heckman.I remember it was an Akron kicker that was the last pick of the draft.Yes, it was John Clark. He had so much potential. What a waster of talent.I remember that Pasquale was a pretty good OL. I don't know if I would put Dunn ahead of any of the other guys though.Ozzie Jackson was recruited as a rb IIRC. HE was switched because of lack of DB's at the time.I thought Gary Tyler wa a pretty good CB. So was Wolfe, but I thought Tyler was better. IMHO

I agree about Clark, but he was a stud. He had a real future. What an idiot.I forgot about Reese. Actually Russel Holmes too. He was a good LB. A good center in bball too.Paul Winters. I thought he was good, but I think the ones listed are a little better. Maybe Dennis Brumfield should be in there too.Actually over the years, we have had some pretty good TB's.I need a good TE. Brett Hrivnak (sic) could have been that guy. If he had grades.Orbovich was pretty good, but we have had to have better.

I thought my wife and I were the only ones to remember Nerim Gembolai? Averaged something like 30ppg/15+rpg out of HS. He played 1 game for the Zips before quitting, I believe. How do I know you spelled that right?

I know everyone is usually serious around here, but we really do need to have some fun.From memory, no cheating by looking at old rosters or teams, try to name the all time Zips pre-2000 graduation team. I just realized my memory sucks....I need some help on the lines.QB-Mike Johnson-Marcell WeemsRB-James Black-Doug Lewis-Mike ClarkWR-Willie DavisWR-Lavell Bailey-Was he pre 2000?OL-John BuddenbergOL-Mike TeifkeOL-Bryan ShawOL-Mike O'ConnorOL-Ron PasqualeTE-Chris Kelley-Jay DenholmDE- Jason TaylorDE-Pierce JoinerDT- Wayne GrantDT-Eric DrakesDT-Keith QueenerLB-John ClarkLB-Steve CockerhamLB-Brian HilkDB-Victor GreenDB-Bobby LyonsDB-Shawn VincentDB-Gary TyleyDB-Ozzie JacksonPK-Daron Alcorn-Andy Graham-Dennis HeckmanEdited-To add in guys you mentioned.

Not a chance.What a stiff. He looked more like an o-lineman. Wasn't he a Canton guy?I would take Robinson over Klaus Zollner though. :thumb:I would have to throw in Nerim Jumbalai(sic) too. Maybe even Eric McLendon.I know I butchered that spelling.

I would be extremely surprised to see a true freshman start at QB fro UA.However, it he is equal to the other 2 then I would do it. Only because it could mean his upside is better.We could really freak out the Indiana fans if the freshman played.They used to have a QB named Matt Rogers too. IIRC he was pretty good.

Would you trade them for Treg Lee and Jay Burson? Treg Lee was a Power forward. It wouldn't be an even trade.Jay Burson is probably still wearing that halo thing on his head too.We may have to throw in Ilya McGee, Shawn Roberts and Albert Jones too.Now, say Jimmy Jackson and Lawrence Funderburke.

I see Jabari making it. He is a big fast target.HE may not be a high pick, but I see him getting picked. He is a good athlete.If he could live up to half the hype coming out of high school, Robinson would be a #1 pick.

Didn't Mark Friday start as a true Freshman?

Sounds great. I remember Eric M. he and Anthony Buford were a great backcourt.Stop calling me old.

That's the response I expected. Insted of debating or proving me wrong you provide sarcasm. I guess no honesty is required. Just praise. I guess someone with a BS from UA and an MBA from OSU is "someone from OSU"Thank you, :wall:So I guess if you think Jessica Alba is hotter than Jessica Simpson, you are demeaning Jessica Simpson. I am done with this topic now, because "some", no I didn't say all, just don't want to be honest with yourselves.Maybe someone should report me for giving my opinions.

Although I agree about the basketball arena, I don't think that has anything to do with football being on top. There are many schools that are high profile in one sport and not the other. There are even some schools that don't have both sports.Xavier doesn't have a football team. Yet they are usually top 10 in bball.

As the caveman says, uuuhhhh what?

Sooooooo, we shouldn't be discussing football on this board? I didn't start this thread.I thought on the football board we were supposed to talk about our team and how we stack up against the competition. What would you rather talk about?I guess we could talk about our uniforms, or our cheerleaders. How about the band?Let's talk about the new stadium. No, there is already a thread on that. Many Akron fans are so used to not having anyone to talk football with that they don't know how to respond. Noone is talking smack. Noone is calling names or attacking. At least I am not. We are merely talking about future opponents. I don't think anyone is telling lies or mistruths on here. Guess what, on other teams boards, we also talk about teams and players that are better than those of our team. It is part of the fun of being a fan. If you disagree with what I am saying then call me out. We can discuss.debate it.You would be very surprised at how much I talk up Akron on the other boards.Unlike here, other boards don't look for reasons to trash Akron. Most are very impressed with the direction the program is headed and fear some competition in the years to come. They don't have to resort to name calling (ie Columbus State.)I am as excited as anyone wbout the direction this program is headed. However, we aren't there yet. My apologies for discussing future opponents on this board. I guess I won't do it again.I thought this was a football talk board.So, how hot are our cheerleaders looking this year???