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  1. I stole it (ritalin)If you made 1mill a year, just as a hypothetical, how much would you give to your alma mader for a stadium? Half your year's salary? Wow, if you are married, your wife is gonna kick your ass.How about 100k? I still doubt that would happen.But....anything less than that is a drop in the bucket for a large project like this.If anything, what you would like is to get guys like Frye and Taylor to lend their names and donate some time toward getting corporate and charitable donations which could add up to mucn more than those guys would ever give up themselves.

  2. I'd rather just give props to both of them.Honestly, you gotta like the progress and results that both have delivered.Although this season was a touch disappointing in football, I honestly get the sense that things game together wrong, and next year will be different. JD got a bowl bid.KD got a tourney invite.I guess that's why I wan't to give props to both and just say, lets have this discussion in a few years.

  3. Because 650 AM is much better run than the "glorified-college-hippie-station" that 1350 AM is! :rolleyes:
    It's 640, WHLO, andI find irony in the fact that Can't (teh hippy skool) has their games played on WHLO (a conservative talk station) and Akron games are aired on the dime-store air-america hippy station :john:
  4. 6.)Winning close games in an exciting fashion is the best thing you could hope for if you want to see people fill the JAR.  They come to see an exciting game, not a blow-out or a loss.  Games like this get people coming back for more.
    I dunno. Even if it's not as exciting, sometimes a good hardcore blowout makes you feel all fuzzy inside. :rock:Pwnage is soul therapy
  5. good lord. now the fans are turning on each other. Should we just give everyone a knife, stick 'em on a island and the last one off is the true zips fan?
    Balki, you are favorite ZN poster. :lol: but I guess [strong]disagreements are not necessarily a bad thing if you can still be civil about it afterwards. I remember goin'round with a few people in that soccer stadium thread, and I can't even remember who right now because I don't bother with an ounce of grudge just because people disagree with me.
  6. If you have worked years in the construction industry, then you know that subcontractors can be held, legally, to uphold the aspects of the job specifications that they agreed to when they won the bid and accepted the job. Sure, there are some things, such as using cheap concrete, that may not be found right away, but for the most part, it is up to the owner and construction manager to make sure the job is beind done according to design. That is all I was getting at.If the owner takes takes on a the management philosophy that cutting corners is more important than getting a quality product, then you will get the results you fear. This, however, is not always how it works. I have seen plenty of jobs where contractors were required to complete re-do their work, at their own expense, because it did not meet specifications. This is why I say that well written specs are the key.

  7. I too fear that the 50 odd million sounds too cheap for a nice stadium, but consider the following:1) N.E.Ohio economy has been in recession relative to the rest of the country for years (if not decades) and thus, even with the presence of unions, a project of this nature could come in considerable cheaper than in many other places. Basically, there are a lot of construction companies and related industry that NEED to win contracts just to work. Bidding should be low. Maybe the estimates are hoping for this....?2) When do projects EVER come in below budget? It wouldn't suprise me if this one ends up having a final pricetag over 70M when it's done. This seems contradictory to point#1, but all I am saying is, you're comparing this estimate to the final cost of other projects. 3) Remember, just having newer facilities will be nice, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, having them right on campus will be a dream! I'm not saying that we should "settle". I just think, keep it in perspective. As long as they have pre-designed expandability, that is good enough for me.

  8. GP1, it depends on the industry and the project.If your specificiations are ..... well....... specific, and well written, the construction manager and subcontractors can't skirt them.Also, the construction manger has to answer to the owner and/or architect, so it's really up to them how much "value engineering" occurs.

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