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Do you think we could have gotten Arth to come for less money?

No one's forcing anyone to pay anyone that much money. That's what they determined they needed to pay to obtain that person's services. We can lower our salary and hire a D3 position coach but it might be ugly. Yeah, it's been ugly anyway ?

If college coaches were getting paid based on profits they bring in, most of them would be volunteers

Define over-inflated? They're paid according to what the market has dictated - perhaps the fees were needed to afford the coaches and not vice versa. I'd possibly argue that a D-1 job as a volleyball, track, wrestling, softball or similar sport is the pinnacle of their career path, there's no legitimate pro position. 200K for one of the top 100 jobs in the country in a field might not seem so outlandish when you look through that lens. In any case I'd argue something is worth whatever someone pays for it, to be concise.

That's dated 4/25

The prices now reflect market value. Your proposed salary is snatched out of thin air with no basis of reality behind them. Who would coach a MAC school for that much? 1-AA coaches make more. Just cut football at that point if we're going to nickel and dime that much.

Based on what?

*Looks up recruiting rankings and results* Yeah this checks out

So if the total active roster is 55, then they'll have 67 this year and 69 next year. Nice. I would still say 85 could be reduced a little, say to 80, but I'd probably be against going lower than that. 85 is 16-18 more than an NFL roster before redshirts, ineligibility issues, kids that get upset and transfer, etc. Plus these kids aren't getting paid to put their bodies on the line.

Well they have 65 including practice squad, they don't have redshirts for freshmen that aren't physically ready, and they can sign free agents to replace injured players.

They already denied the G5 petition to lower the number so I doubt a waiver would happen. Curious to see what they have to say. Cross Country was cut to a non scholarship sport so maybe they could get creative there somehow

I've seen a couple of the graphics guys I follow on twitter say they're moving onto other things. The guys that make the templates recruits tweet out on committing or visits and obviously more than that but.. I'm assuming support positions like that and who knows what else are casualties of this.

Yeah, just fyi so it's here https://gozips.com/news/2020/5/14/general-campus-message-from-ad-larry-williams.aspx

I don't think anyone ever claimed those three added up to all of the 4.4 mil. The release also said there were coaching pay cuts as well as scholarship reductions and other expense reductions

They were trending towards being a decent MAC team at that point. Rembielak was finally getting some traction with decent recruits in the area. I didn't say they were historically good, but competitive in the conference at 13-15

The moment we voluntarily put ourselves at even more of a disadvantage by cutting scholarships is the moment we should just drop football. If we're gonna do it, do it as well and as competitive as we can. The debate over why we should have a sport is interesting. Is the reason to have a sport so we can make a profit? I don't think. But we should also be responsible. Baseball may not be growing but it's a popular sport in our area and before we cut it we proved that we could be competitive within our conference.

On behalf of the posters here, thank you

Don't your insider friends share that with you?

I like the idea competitively, regardless of the economics. Some interest at the end of the season for schools on the #8 bubble spot. I don't like it from an Akron standpoint of usually being a top 4 seed and now I don't see any plausible scenario for byes with 8 teams.

Let's talk dollars. How much money do we save in chopping 22 scholarships? And how much do we lose without buy games and MAC TV money?

I don't think this was the "I told you so" post you were hoping to write today, eh?

I feel like 4.4 mil should be attainable without any groundbreaking cuts

Not that we offered him but I don't know where else to put this. Jimonds little bro?

They definitely have more than 3. You're allowed 11.7 so I went with 8 as a plausible halfway point. Not to say the university lied but I think maybe it was more of a PR move to put the self funded title out right away to avoid the blowback then ease into it being like the other sports.

I'm curious if baseball is as self funded as some claim. If we're even offering 8 scholarships that's a couple hundred grand needed each year just to front scholarship money.