ZachTheZip

QB Perry Hills verbals to Maryland.

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What if your family needs the money to pay for rent and food? Then you should get a job to support your family instead of being selfish and going to college to play sports. Comes down to priorities. It's a tough decision, but non-athletes have to make tough decisions and nobody talks about changing massive national systems to help them.

Evan Payne will be going the JUCO route at Huntington Prep.

Wow, that $16,000 is almost to the poverty level!!! A guy can live it up on that. This mentality is completely void of any understanding of where a lot of the kids come from and is really the 1950s mentality I like to make fun of. Most people in this country have zero idea how poor many of the families the kids playing college football really are. Many players would have to take that $16,000 and give a lot of it to maybe his single mother on welfare so she can take care of her other children. Any kid who loved his mother and fellow siblings would do everything he could to help her. To pretend otherwise is silly. Again, the answer isn't to pay the kid. The answer is to allow him to make a legal income as long as he keeps up with the most important thing in his life....football, and second....school work. As long as he is fulfilling those obligations in that order, he should be allowed to have a job. $16,000 is a whole lot when you don't have any bills to pay.

New offer: LB Jhalil Croley

DE Tom Strobel verbals to Michigan.

I suppose you think it's wrong for a companies to enforce a code of conduct for their employees, too? And the NCAA is not a monopoly. It's not a necessary step toward becoming a professional athlete. Calling the NCAA a monopoly is like saying that automobiles are a monopoly because so many people prefer driving to taking a bus or train.

Since it began. How many times does it need mentioned before you get it? Colleges don't make money on athletics. College players aren't forced into anything. Like I said, if they don't want to go to college, they don't have to. The NFL's rules don't say a player needs to go to college, just that they have to have been out of high school for three years. They can earn any legal income they wish. The thing is, the things you talk about are illegal.

What if the rules are unjust to the point of being immoral? Then don't join the organization that establishes those rules. Find a different one or create your own. Maybe you should start up a new collegiate athletic association with your ideas.

Because there is a demand for their services. If a non athlete could make $1,250/hour, why shouldn't they be allowed to? It's called a free country. It would be terrible for college football to have a viable minor league football system. There would be a huge decline in the quality of play across the board. The talent makes the game entertaining, not the game itself. If you think the MAC is bad now.....yikes. The reason players don't do the arena league or whatever league is out there is they aren't realistic methods of showing off their talents. The players agreed to abide by NCAA laws when they joined the organization. If they don't like the terms, they can find an alternative. It is, after all, a free country. Anyway, I think your definition of college football is off. College football is called college football because it has to do with colleges and students who attend those colleges. Conversely, professional football is about professional organizations and the employees who play for them. If a college wants to pay athletes, they would forfeit their non-profit status by becoming a professional organization since they admit they are in it to make a profit which less than 10% of the BCS schools do even without the expense of paying players. If they think they could get ahead by doing so, they would have done it a long time ago.

You think TP is like the rest of the students that go to college? He's decidely less intelligent.

Here is an example. Jock sniffing car dealer in Columbus pays a player $5,000 to sign autographs for four hours on one Saturday, or however often he wants to sign. Player would have to work 500 hours at $10/hr to make that kind of money. They would have jobs unlike most students, but it is a free country after all. If they want to make $5000, why shouldn't they have to work 500 hours like the rest of the students that go to college? If kids want to get paid for being athletes, then they should work their way on to a professional team's roster. They can join the UFL or Arena League or something. Just like how basketball players who don't want an education are can play in Europe.

3 new offers: OG Chase Roullier WR Josh Smith CB Taylor Williams

This is the reason why student athletes should be able to hold a job while in school. Allowinig it to happens brings all of the money into the open and requiring laws to be followed. As it stands now, schools are taking 18-23 year old people and turning them into criminals before most ever get into the working world. The ncaa is run by despicable people and even more despicable people (the universities themselves) pay their salaries. They are allowed to hold a job. What makes you think they can't? It is against NCAA rules for a player to hold a job during the spring and fall semesters. They should be allowed to hold a job year around. They should be allowed to legally make money. So they legally make money during the summer. Holding a job year-round interferes with being an athlete. What kind of hours do you think they could work that would accommodate practice in the morning, class in the day, and games in the evenings? Are you advocating that players be allowed to simply get paid for not showing up? Because that's not a job. It's getting money because of who they are. It's not like they need to pay for food, books, school supplies, transportation, or anything like that. A couple thousand from a summer job plus the stipend they receive from the university should be enough for the year. Yes, they do get a stipend. If that's not enough, there's also a discretionary spending fund set up by the NCAA that gives them even more spending money, so long as it's for necessities. At OSU, they did what they did not because they were struggling to make ends meet, but because they wanted to get more tattoos and drive new cars. If they really were in financial trouble I don't think you would see them doing what they did.

This is the reason why student athletes should be able to hold a job while in school. Allowinig it to happens brings all of the money into the open and requiring laws to be followed. As it stands now, schools are taking 18-23 year old people and turning them into criminals before most ever get into the working world. The ncaa is run by despicable people and even more despicable people (the universities themselves) pay their salaries. They are allowed to hold a job. What makes you think they can't?

4 new offers: CB Kevin Houchins WR Gehrig Dieter S John Turner DE Langston Newton

I would say they have been ironing that out since the Quaker Square deal. They toured Toledo's arena (UA and the City, and rep's from First Energy and some other undisclosed individuals) over a year ago now. I don't think the stadiums push anything back. Donors and Cub Cadet paid for the soccer stadium improvements. The Info was a capital project and they still are getting donors to cover some of that. But that would be the same as saying "how much does all the new buildings push the stadium back". It really didn't. This whole thing started when the Info was built. As for improvements to the JAR, new court, chairback seats for the lower sections, score board, locker rooms. They have put probably $2 million in it to get it to where it is now. Probably as much or more renovation as the Rubber Bowl saw. Whoa!! I'm sure the officials at the U would be rejoicing if they had only put 2 million into the Rubber Bowl. We put that much into it to keep it operating over just those last several years alone. It cost millions every time we did nothing more than just replace the artificial turf. What's sad is that everything that was ever done to the Rubber Bowl in the 30 or so years that I've been going there was hardly noticable It cost at least $2 million every time they had to pump concrete under the endzone sections because the natural spring that is under the hillside kept eating away at the shale and sandstone bedrock that was supporting the structure.

That article says the $$$ was all from one guy. So that's a tax evasion charge for Pryor and a reason for the government to investigate, who might just forward their findings to the NCAA.

I see alot of "can't" and "need" in here. We can whine all we want about not having the things we want, but replacing an arena right now that was built in the 80s is a long shot. Absolutely no comparison whatsoever to the Rubber Bowl situation. That's why I think we keep it around whether we build a new one or not. It's still a perfect size for WBB and Volleyball.

We're pouring money into renovating the back area as we speak and we're already looking to tear it down? I say it stays and we build a new arena elsewhere. The JAR is home to too much stuff; most of the athletic offices are there and where would we play while the new arena is getting built if the JAR is torn down?

I agree with much of what you are saying here. Here's where I think this is going. 1) They WILL get slapped harder than USC, because it involved a lot of players, and a big coverup. 2) They've probably done enough to warrant the death penalty, but they won't get the SMU treatment because they are a far better money generator. When it comes out that players from basketball or other sports were involved, then you're talking about a Lack of Institutional Control penalty. Right now it's confined to football, although I find it very hard to believe that their men's basketball program is clean. The NCAA investigation will tell.

Must have been the same guys who poured the concrete for the Info.

Thank you. I will. tOSU footballers were NOT selling their own personal property. The were selling items (sic) memorabilia such as game jerseys they had "liberated" from the football property room. Pilferage of game jerseys at the end of one's senior year has long been a common practice. Frankly, I still have at least one or two. Seems I saw my grown daughter wearing one of mine recently. Additionally, rings and other "gifts" that stem from participation in bowl games are not considered the players' personal property until they end their eligibility graduating or going pro. Think "lease to own".