Hold on Zipgrad01 You mean to tell everyone here that if anything else, the talent level has not gone up since Bowen been coach? If you actually believe that, you are either: A:) Not a true Zips fan, or B:) Not paying attention at all or C:) A Cleveland Sports fan that happiness is being unhappy all of the time. As a Joe Akron with no ties to the school, even I have been critical of Bowden, and trust me, even the "Kool Aid" drinkers you allude to has been critical, very critical. Go back and read the Ohio game thread from months ago and open your eyes. Sorry if you want National Titles in his first year. The game does not work that way and you know it. There are people on this site that want this team to fail, and very badly at that. That is fact. I want them to succeed. Do I like the back-to-back 5-7 record? No. Where this team was at, I will take this at the moment. The one thing is patience and time, things that people seem to forget on this site.