K92

You think Bowden can get the Zips record to 88-65? Right now he's 24-37. 64-28 going forward?

I don't think he's a bad coach. He's done a nice job. It's only been 2 years, though. Not a real good sample size. I wish him luck. I'm no hater. On the other hand, Houston has been good in the past. They have a great fertile recruiting ground. Western has gone to a place they've never been before. On top of this, and perhaps most importantly, I could give 2 squirts about Houston. I am green with envy over Western. Just to be real honest.

I didn't forget about Fleck's 1-11 season. 1-11/8-5/8-5/12-0 That's called turning a program around. No. Ianello shouldn't have had more time. It wasn't just the 1-11 record, it was the complete and total ineptitude that was displayed getting there. Bowden was 1-11 his first year but the team was head and shoulders better than the 2 previous years. He received full credit for achieving that on this forum. I am not a huge fan of Tom Herman. We will see what he can do at Texas if he gets that job. Anything else?

I hear what you're saying. I just never got the feeling watching Kent that Darrell Hazell was the main impetus for their success. I looked at them as being extremely fortunate in many instances that year when the ball bounced their way. But then again, I'm biased. I don't want to give them credit for anything. What Darrell accomplished at Purdue affirmed in my mind my preconceived notion of him. It's not impossible to win at Purdue. Joe Tiller did it. Anyhow. A coach is ultimately graded on wins and losses, but a lot goes into that final record. There are many roles and responsibilities of a coaching staff: recruiting, discipline, scheme, gameplanning, motivation, etc. Feel free to add in any other aspect you like. I would be curious what you and others think is most important.

DH was at Kent for 2 years. Not a great sample size. 2012 was a great season, no doubt. I was not overly impressed with Kent or DH. A 1-11 Zips team certainly had a chance to beat them at their place. They sure had a dynamic playmaker on offense in Dri Archer who paired nicely with the lardass running back. Can't remember his name. QB was a stiff. Defense lived off of turnovers. DH cashed in and worked his magic at Purdue. He now is on the short list to replace Charlie Strong at Texas. You are right he is awesome. If for nothing else, he is awesome for those sweet helmets they wore in the bowl game. I'm biased. Forgive me. I hate Kent.

Huh?

Hazel fan, eh?

Kent State's 1 year of success sure as Hell wasn't due to Darrell Hazel. They had a pretty stout D and a game changer player on offense. Bowden doesn't have to be fired. Milwee needs to be, though.

Not only that Kreed. 2 of those seasons started out at 4-2. A 1-5 finish on a 4-2 start is called a disaster. But let's not hold anybody accountable. Let's make excuses. Let's embrace mediocrity.

The most grating thing about watching Western is seeing them step up when it matters. Gameday came to town and their fans looked the part on National television. With all the distractions associated with that show, they dispatched Buffalo as they should have. Tonight, they dominated a pretty damn good Toledo team to seal the perfect record. They are not a normal MAC program. So many times, a MAC team stumbles when it matters most. Not these guys. Think of our Zips. Every time they get an opportunity to take the next step they fail. I take that back. They won the Potato Bowl last year. Or should I say, Jatavis Brown won the Potato Bowl last year. Without his strip and Coe's return, the Zips lose. But then again, the Zips probably lose 8-10 more games under Bowden if it wasn't for Jatavis. Thank God for the staff identifying his talent and bringing him in. I'm so freaking jealous. Why not Akron? What does Western have that Akron doesn't? Absolutely nothing. How did they catch lightning in a bottle with Fleck? These are the ramblings of a very frustrated Zips fan. I'm tired of losing. 4 wins better than the worst ever D1 coach ain't good enough. I will never understand how mediocrity can be acceptable to any fan. Excuses attempt to explain it away. That's what Zips fans do best. I'm not trying to call anyone out or put anyone down. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Watching WMU tonight just got on my last nerve. Congrats to them though. I hope their fans enjoy every drop of that Championship nectar.

Whose recruits will achieve more on the field?

Toledo is a little uncomfortable tonight.

Yeah.

Watching good MAC football makes me sad.

24-37 seems to shoot a couple of holes in my predictor.

72 Roo, for sure the biggest predictor of future performance is past performance. If you are in the manufacturing sector you know this is a given. What does that say for Zips football?

Jawon ACAAC Chisholm?

You would have been right in saying so, though. If 9 in a row doesn't establish superiority, I don't know what does.

Last night was the first time I watched a Bobcats game. I assumed they were decent based on their record. I obviously gave them too much credit for beating Toledo. What I saw last night was what I usually see when the Zips play a Solich Ohio team. A team that doesn't have a lot of talent but plays hard and a coaching staff that comes up with a good game plan. After the Buffalo and BG debacles, not many Zips fans held out a lot of hope for the game last night. Ohio is definitely a better team than either one of those 2 putrid squads. Any posts about Ohio being far superior to Akron were probably based on a negative opinion of the Zips rather than a positive opinion of the Bobcats. After seeing them play, I certainly was not impressed by Ohio, but they were good enough to beat Akron for the 9th straight time.

It's a very bitter pill for me to swallow that after 5 years of Bowden Ball we are still winless versus BG & Ohio. That is completely unacceptable to me. Something needs to change to get off the schneid.

Sad, but true.

I agree that injuries suck but that's reality. The Zips have been very fortunate the last few years to dodge the injury bug that has bitten so many MAC squads. Injuries really hurt when your depth sucks. Depth sucks when recruiting isn't up to snuff.

Great effort by the players. Nice job by the defensive staff. Too bad the staff on the offensive side of the ball is totally inept. If they keep their jobs, they should make the short drive to Creston for a classroom session. The Norwayne staff could teach them more in an afternoon about running a spread offense than they know now.

A shitty Ohio team makes it to Detroit. Again.